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Hang about! In the continuing stooooory of cassette vs pumpout, the 50% cassette supporters always say there is no problem going to an Elsan point on a weekly basis. You must be wrong. Surely is it always a nice experience. Our pump outs are!

My dad was a Bobby. I remember his tunic, his truncheon pocket, he showed me how to loop the leather strap, so it couldn't easily been taken from him. He had a cape. A helmet, a whistle. I remember once, he drove an MG two seater. Brought it home to show us all. He also got p**sed on duty in Chorley and got caught. He got transferred to Huyton as a punishment. It wasn't a too bad a place to grow up. Yes, we lived in Police Houses, it was okay. We certainly moved about a bit. For whatever reason, the Police don’t have the same respect from joe public as bygone days. Nor do the Police of today have respect for jo public as in bygone days. Jo public isn't the same beast As in bygone days. My dad wasn't a tough guy by any stretch of the imagination, but he knew how to handle himself. Ex army, wartime in North Africa, Sicily and Italy. Palestine followed after wartime end. I guess that toughened you up a little. Picture of Dad and I, after my passing out parade in Plymouth, 1969. He sadly passed away in 1978 at the young age of 55. Very much missed. Did i go off topic? Ooops!

But an alternative view: Back when your observations were, or rather might have been true, the so-called respect was largely born out of subservience, even if it was dressed up with a measure of benevolent paternalism. This was amusing but very perceptively captured in the famous sketch with John Cleese etc. You were born to a class and you knew your place. Anything that tended to give an opportunity to escape would have been labelled as revolutionary. Some would like to think that we have made it all the way to a more egalitarian society but, scratch the surface, and 'knowing your place' is still a dominant controlling factor - round the world, not just UK. Some of the eastern societies may well have a more ordered society but it comes at a price of much greater repression. A very modern example is seen in the row over exam grading. Ostensibly, the objective of 'education' since the 1960's (see Robins Report) has been to enable everyone to have an opportunity for social mobility. But the main constraint on the 'algorithm' was just the opposite: make sure that grade inflation dopes not happen ie if one school improves then another must be labelled failing. And then we find that the net effect has been to protect the results of schools of a certain type and to disadvantage others. And some wonder why there is mistrust of authority when all through this pandemic we have seen examples of one rule for the powerful and one rule for the rest. Now, I am not really a raving red, as those with power usually label those seeking opportunity (see US Presidential Election memes for examples from a so-called egalitarian society) and I present an alternative view simply to demonstrate that there is more than one way of reading your evidence. Looking at my next generation but one I am delighted, sometimes amazed, to see endless examples of responsibility and social awareness often missing from public discourse of late. I have great faith in upcoming generations . . . Let's hope those in between don't mess it up before they get a chance to have their hands on the tiller. (Of course, every generation discovers that age and experience readily destroy progressive enthusiasm!)

Apologies! I keep wanting to say "because its full of water!" I'll get my coat.

They all go into a silent sulk cos you've just killed one of their mates. The Albert Pierrepoint of the woods.

I am of a generation that can still read maps, and like to be able to see how local roads and towns interact with the canal route, so Nicholsons.

Or... https://www.loveskirting.co.uk/skirting-architrave-c12/by-product-c201/modern-skirting-c85/pine-square-single-edge-skirting-3-5-metre-p647

Nit sure if I have posted this before, apologies if I have. L & L short boat at Verdun,

Yes, this would be most beneficial. I was pleased to note that the portion of our Council Tax allocated to the police had gone up by a bit more than inflation this year, and I'd be happy to see it go up still further. Just down our road is a detached building which is a former police house (and presumably station). I wish it still was one. In fourteen years of living in Upwell, I have only once seen a policeman walking along our road. The rot started not through lack of funding but by the introduction of TGP, total geographical policing. Some bag carrying, scramble egg chasing, never really done proper police work oik used a computer to model where officers where needed and when. So whereas lots of areas were assigned a beat officer the computer decided or showed that these areas had no reported crimes or only at certain times so resources were reallocated meaning areas only saw an officer when something had happened. It's why I am a strong supporter of report, report, report as it messes with the stats. Coupled with so many people allocated to specialist roles, people not wanting to work nights or weekends or good officers being disillusioned with what the role has become so leave are some reasons why numbers have diminished I liken today's officers with fire crews. They only have time to rush from job to job. Which means they do not get the opportunity to meet the majority of people who abide by the law. Dealing with the minority of society that have no respect for anyone else but themselves and think they can behave in anyway they like to get what they want puts them in the us and them position. After all behaviour breeds behaviour

I suppose the fact that it was posted in the BMC forum went over your head. Don't EVER answer any of my questions. Although it's not likely that I would ask any questions on this forum after a similar sort of answer a few years ago from another "expert."

Watercolour sketch thing

They do this for the same reason that some people who use communal bins outside flats and apartments, put loads of empty cans and bottles into the general rubbish bins instead of the recycling bins just next to them. It's pure laziness and a lack of any sense of community. This country unfortunately has fairly low levels of social cohesion compared to France, Germany or Scandinavia for example. Lots of selfish c@nts. Lots of Brits came out to clap for the NHS during lockdown and it seemed like everyone was finding a new sense of community, but later when the weather got hot some of the same people went down to overcrowded beaches on the South coast flouting social distancing, so in reality they didn't give a crap about the NHS. I'm afraid this selfishness runs across all sections of society including boaters.

Er, yes. Could that be why newer boats are dry bilge? Front decks are raised these days so that they are self draining. Rear decks on semi trads and cruisers need detailed work on drain channels to avoid engine room flooding and sinking. Never rely on a bilge pump, they are only guaranteed to work when you don't need them.

Well apparently there have been lots of complaints from up North about shiny bothies.

Or just keep the weedhatch lid securely clamped? Then I can't see how it can flood. My weedhatch seals aren't that great and I just get a little puddle of water at max revs..

I've never seen volunteers at Botterham. Good job really as they wouldn't be happy if they saw me opening middle and top paddles at the same time which is what I usually do.

I like Heron maps. I photocopy them, A4 size at a time, with 50% overlap on the next page and laminate them. I am currently looking for a waterproof ring binder for them.

Nicholson's for the mapping, Pearsons for the narrative, so we have both. Nick

So are you suggesting that its perfectly acceptable for questioners to expect us to remember their details from 7 years ago? I don't think that is on just as I don't think not bothering to give the engine model is really not on when asking for help. On the basis of the opening question the engine could be a 1.5, 1.8, 2.2 or 2.5 with the 3.x series far less likely. There is always the possibility it could be a petrol engine although unlikely. So do we guess (which in thesis case would probably got the correct answer) or ask for clarification.

I just want to watch the racing when football is on...... I re-set my phone when it sulks. I'm thinking I need a proper laptop, the kind that doesn't roll over and die when I spill a few ml of white wine on the keyboard. Budget is about £2-300 , must be faster to react than my tablet.

So one or two people off work sick can close down the major link between north and south? Still, we have new shiny blue signs and posh company cars for the upper echelons of mismanagement.

Getting serious here - (My Management pours a very stiff Whisky (well it's whiskey fro Aldi, so I should add the 'e') - Methinks it's all about 'society'. When I were brung up, organisations - schools / yoof clubs/ scouts, brownies / chrches - choirs etc, all taught about respec' - for whatever that flavour was. Not rammed down your throat, but that's te way 'we do it'. Being you young accepted it - 'cos all the others did - and why not; there was no coercion. You all went to Church parade, squirmed (especially if the Troop was attached to Presbyterian church (all hell and damnation)... Then you grow up and begin on a new course - but some of the old rules that were dinned into you begin to have some relevance still hold force. Now that society seems to have collapsed - and it's a criminal offence to chide any unruly yoof - thus they continue with whatever they were doing - especially as they are empowered. Expand my diatribe somewhat and you get to folks running amock - because they don't stop to consider that some of their actions have a detrimental effect on others - Oh, I have some rubbish - bung it into a hedge - it'll rot... Oh, the dog bin is full - some idle council has not emptied it - I'll dump the bag (cos it's full and smelly) Ditto my boat waste and the dumpster (Americvan) is full - not my problem, leave the bag. All these issues and many more back up, with the result that there can be little pleasure in leaving your marina, or even going out of you front door. the short answer is to persuade the current and future generations (kids, yoofs) that some sort of order / consideration for others may be a reasonable concept and worth persuing?? End of sermon. (now you can see why I changed my logo)

Try these:

Nope, I can talk about trees or talk trees all day, I rarely actually talk to trees, cause they don't listen or answer or quite frankly lack the nous to understand when someone does Advice freely given, unless you want me to put my name to it, then it costs

We have to do this due to our length and it can be traumatic. I don't really mind when we turn to avoid the Wigan flight, but going past the Rufford Arm (down to the Ribble Link) always gives a pang, and getting to the end of the Rochdale and having to turn to go back is also difficult. If I had a 70 foot widebeam I would be really unhappy. ..............Dave

Technically the Birmingham and Fazeley is covered by BCN. How about GU Leicester Line instead? The narrow canals are what make our waterways unique, and they draw holidaymakers from around the world. It's only forum members who are saddled with widebeam boats who would suggest otherwise. Sadly, they don't really seem to know what they're missing. A two week holiday is no substitute for really living on these canals. Personally I'd hate cruising past canal junctions, looking wistfully at cruising options which would be denied to me.

Your comment is not quite as daft as it sounds - I accompanied some friends on their 62 ft NB (I've a RYA Day Skipper and Power Boat instructor for lumpy water) and had to fight quite hard for "No, the anchor needs to be in the Well Deck, warp attached and ready to be deployed, not 'it's in the locker, we'll get it out if we need it'"

Keys are freely available if you look................so they mean nothing. Sorry don't agree IMHO this is part of a growing breed of entitled selfish scum in our so called society .............they are not stupid they know exactly what they are doing and its implications they just don't give a sh**

I think Foxes Afloaat from Narrowboat Silver Fox had aaaa vlog on this .... youtube:

It’s due to extreme heat, not extreme neglect of funding of all non government vanity projects, under the auspices of austerity. Mps will now be helicoptered to destinations saving congestion and pollution on the roads. Another win.