Jerra

I notice nobody has attempted to enlighten me over my queries in #153 1. Cost 2. Production emissions basically negating the advantages of the cell.

If you read back up the thread basically the opposite to WV cycle tracks for cycles and roads for big metal machines and if they won't do it voluntarily a requirement to use cycle tracks. I accept out in the country this would be impossible but where you have a high number of both separation is clearly IMO sensible.

No idea how far I have cycled and I have no intention of getting into a competition but I equally think I have a good idea of what is safe and what isn't.

Well in another 12 years you will have been cycling as long as I have.

He didn't say it was in the UK did he?

I was considering the cyclist safety I don't know why you bring in the odds of a cyclist killing anybody.

With regard to paragraph one unless we adopted the Dutch system which I can't see happening: firstly because I doubt the majority of drivers who aren't cyclists would accept such a change, secondly why should the majority have the rules of the road changed so drastically for the minority. Second Para: I can safely say I can not remember when I last had a motorist in your words trying to kill me and yes I do walk as much as the next person. Third para. Not sure what an extreme case of daft driving has to do with cycle tracks other than the obvious......... That cyclists would be much safe off the road away from cars and on a cycle track.

Having done a little googling I have two points you might like to clarify for me. 1. They are said to be very expensive to make so how does the average boater afford them? 2. A quote from a website I was reading: The manufacturing process creates carbon dioxide emissions for the fuel that virtually offsets all the gains that this technology offers from the user-end of the spectrum. Why is this any better than say renewable electricity?

Are they currently available/suitable for boats and cars? If not why not electricity as a halfway house so to speak?

So your suggestion is..............

A number of points. With regard to stopping a car at every road junction for a cyclist this would be considerably less often than for a car driver. A cyclist on a main road suffers the same problem as a motorcyclist only worse (they are smaller) i.e. drivers don't always spot them so stopping or at least having to slow down (they would only have to stop if something was coming) at side roads a) makes them safer and b) for the speeds and distances they would be travelling wouldn't be as big an impediment as in your car analogy. I don't see how a cyclist can complain about the danger on the roads and then expose themselves to it merely because they don't want to slow down and occasionally stop. Yes I frequently do slow down at road junctions as I drive giving the car in the side road the chance to get out and on their way obviously if there is no car there I don't slow down. Just as the cyclist would have to do. With regard to the dutch system if the majority of people cycle then it is probably OK I can however think of a number of roads round hear where it would cause traffic jams on the major road. We are on one of the C2C routes. I haven't had the experience of car rivers trying to kill me. Is it some sort of local sport?

Having looked at the two "slides" I suspect a similar pattern would be acceptable but much more difficult. The pattern is roughly within the 10 K (6m approx) for 6 weeks then within the 32 K (20 m approx) (assuming the 32 K is a diameter not a radius) for a couple of weeks. Then every so often e.g. half terms holidays and most of the summer holidays they say cruising to be extended outside the usual cruising area. So it may be possible for a working person but would require some careful planning and quite a bit of commuting IMO.