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  1. 10 points
    National User Forum April 2018 I attended the National User Forum in Birmingham on Wednesday;18 April; various presentations which repeated the ones at Council albeit with a boating slant. These are my notes and my recollections; if I have omitted anything, , this is unintentional and these should not be viewed as exhaustive or as minutes. The Trust were both reviewing the last year and looking forward to the coming year. These were all presentations with short opportunity for Q&A - as the meeting is only two hours long - they cram as much in as possible leaving very little time for comment - but that seems to be how they wish to do things - tell us, rather than proper consultation. Julie Sharman, Chief Operating Officer - new Structure of Regions which takes effect from the 4 June 2018. She put some slides up but as I was at the back of the room I couldn’t see them (perhaps this is a good thing) - some Regional Directors are external appointments so may not be in place on $Th June due to notice periods. Reservoirs are full, boding well for coming boating season. Rebranding was then talked about and how the Trust needs to reposition itself and have a new image and the need to improve the awareness, currently at approx 36% meaning that 64% have no awareness of who Canal and River Trust are and what they do. This needs to be improved for funding in the future as the Government funding of £53m ends in 2027 and they start renegotiations in 2021 for the grant to continue - they see the canals as “National Health Waterway” and are to reposition as a Waterways and Wellbeing Charity and will be applying a new logo from 22 May - round and in blue and green to fit in digitally. First and foremost the Trust is a navigation body and without a functioning navigation there can be no spin off benefit for other users. Navigation therefore remains core to CRT and is reflected in the ongoing spending plans. Jon Horsfall, Interim Head of Boating, introduced the next section on boating and Matthew Symonds had a presentation taking us through the changes -  The London Mooring Strategy has been generally positively received; with 75% viewing it positively - there are improvements to Towpath moorings, increased management of short stay moorings, improved services in Outer London, creation of new offside Long Term Moorings and improved boater services to be implemented 2018/19. Annual Boaters Survey showed there were less boats in central London and evidence that boats are moving outwards in the recent boater number survey conducted in March.The growth of licensed boats in London slowed with only 150 new; compared with 400 in previous years and nationwide there were an additional 400 boats listed without a home mooring and CC. Licence evasion nationwide had fallen to 3.1% from 4% although there was a light increase in London of 5.1% Widebeams - recognition that there are many more widebeams than previously - 18% over 7’1” wide and they are being taken both on canals not built for widebeams both in width and profile. Approach is by communication - guidance issued on which waterways are considered unsuitable for unrestricted wide beam movement; individual issues will be addressed by communications with boaters concerned with enforcement seen as a last resort Licence Review - begins April 2019, phased in over five years -reduction in Prompt Payment Discount to 2.5%, with additional 2.5% for everyone paying by Direct Debit or online to allow a discount to those boaters who may not be able to afford to pay the licence annually. Width criteria phased in from in April 2020, historic and electric boat discounts still to be reviewed, wooden boats discount remains Further work to look at options addressing growth in use of canals in London and other areas by boats without a home moorings No difference for boats with or without a home mooring Business licence renewal now available online, further consultation regarding Licences to be held in the future Reasonable Adjustment requests for reduction in cruising pattern are now being received at an average of 20-30 per month. There were over 700 in place last year. To ensure a standard approach nationwide a “Capability to Cruise” questionnaire has been trialled from Jan 2018 and NABO and other groups are helping to refine the questions asked - this is to ensure the Trust fulfils its obligations under the Equality Act 2010. Water sports/un-Powered Craft - guidelines produced The online mooring strategy is being worked on and is expected in the summer 2018 Next was a presentation by Peter Walker - Technical Support very outwardly facing dealing with things like major infrastructure projects, Acquisitions and Hydrology. Currently busy with HS2 which will reach Curzon St Birmingham in 2026 and Phase 2a in 2027. 2a construction will be active 2020 to 2026 and has 50 points of impact on CRT either live waterways or potential restoration sites. They are asking boaters to be eyes and ears for the Trust to ensure that nothing unexpected is implemented in the construction phase. Please be alert to anything untoward and report it in immediately to the helpline. The various phases will have a significant impact but CRT is doing what it can to lessen impacts such as sound deadening fences.and he assured that the various CRT impacts will not result in multi month route closures with most being overnight or 24 hour stoppages as beams are swung into place. Stuart Mills - Chief Investment Officer was next giving us a brief outline of what the Trust does to maximise revenue to use for maintenance of the waterway structure . In 2012 CRT inherited a £615m endowment of assets to provide income.and since then the aim has been to grow capital and enhance investment income, with the aim to generate an 8% return with modest amounts of income volatility. The portfolio has changed over time to improve returns and simplify management. In 2011/12 investment income was £21.7m and this has risen to £30.4m in 2017/18, with assets growing in value to £850m The investment portfolio has grown well and is delivering increasing amounts of income which are available to be spent on operational improvement projects. The new Asset Improvement Director, Simon Bamford, delivered the news about the Marple Flight opening being put back until the end of May owing to the state of the Brickwork at the bottom of Lock 15, the one that collapsed. They were given Postcode Lottery money so used it to do a “Marple Makeover” extra work on the flight in addition to Lock Gate replacement - locks have been repointed, gates repaired and replace and a new surface and washwall on Pound 12. In addition a new railing has been placed on the Aqueduct at the bottom of the flight £60m was spent last winter plus between £10m to £15m of third party money (mainly on towpaths) - third party are where a development is taking place so the trust secures funding. In house staff undertook 1000 work packages spending £17m including 257 emergency projects and 180 gates made / fitted. A further £30m was spent on contractors at 160 larger projects £7.8m was spent on dredging in 38 sites, £1m spent grouting locks, £1.4m spent on offside vegetation control, 40,000 dog and litter bins emptied, 27,000 customer/boater service visits made Middlewich breach caused by overtopping attributed to paddles being left open and not asset failure with 3000 cubic feet of material washed away. There is now a solution being worked on to build a road along the canal bed with the active badger sett to be worked in later in the project as it is on the opposite bank. The narrowing of Filance Lock on the Staffs and Worcester was addressed last winter, £500k will be spent addressing the bottom lock at Hurleston next winter. A priority list is being worked through to tackle the known pinch point locks. Spend is split as follows - West 34%, Midlands 29%, North 20% & South 17% As we had then run out of time there was no other business and Richard Parry wrapped the meeting up. The walk back to New Street Station in the brilliant sunshine made the train journey worthwhile and thankfully my train ran on time and I had a seat after the train down was cancelled and I stood most of the way there. .
  2. 9 points
    The major issue in building a new riveted boat is that the sections required are no longer readily available, as they have been rendered obsolete by welding. I remember Ian Kemp saying to me several years ago that he believed that most people regarded wooden boatbuilding as a dying skill, but wooden boats are still built in large numbers all around the world, and whilst each type of boat has it’s own idiosyncrasies the principles remain the same. In his opinion, iron boat building, as he called it, was the skill that we were really in danger of loosing. I hadn’t thought of it that way before, but found that I agreed with him entirely. In terms of sections, what I mean is the angles, knee sections etc that you need for a riveted boat but not a welded one. Some years ago I had to replace, by riveting, the chine angle on a Josher over the length of the straight sides. This angle is not a right angle, but comes out at about 100 degrees, and I needed somewhere in the region of 90 feet of it. I spoke to railway locomotive restorers, traction engine restorers, boilermakers, and heavy section benders, but pretty much drew a blank, in the end I had to fabricate it myself. There was as much fabrication and welding to achieve this as there would be to fit and weld the side to the bottom on a welded boat, and that is before we started punching it out, fitting the footings and riveting. I was lucky that I did not need to replace the angle at either end, where it curves in and the angle opens out at the same time. The same thing would apply to the gunwhale angle, normally an unequal angle again of about 100 degrees, curving in, and up, and flaring out at the same time as it reaches the fore end. Plating wise, the straight sides may present few problems, but the plates at the fore and stern ends may require a plate forge to shape them. When we build the fore ends of welded josher copies most of us fabricate and weld a series of horizontal strips to form the shape, fabricating the same shape by riveting would mean using substantially larger individual plates and would require a plate forge to shape them, and of course, the skill to use it. It would also require a higher standard of fitting, welding plates together can be much more forgiving in terms of gaps. There are also the forged items to consider, the stempost, with hoodings to accept the fore end plates, and the sternpost and skeg. I think another thing to consider is that those of us who do this sort of work are small concerns of one, two, or three people trying to replicate work that was done by shipyards, namely Yarwoods and H&W, and all the resources that they had to hand. It is a big ask. That is not to say that we are not able to replace significant portions of boats, Ian Kemp has replaced the straight sides and knees on several boats, and substantial rebuilds on fore and stern ends, we at Brinklow have lengthened three boats between us by riveting ( Antlia, Sextans, and my Dutch barge Trijntje), replaced side plates, swims and counters, chine angles, areas of gunwhale angle, swims etc. But perhaps a new riveted hull is a step too far. Possible, of course, everything is possible, but the cost would be astronomical. In terms of riveting work on new built boats, I have riveted an engine room and back cabin on a new little Northwich copy, but, having noticed discussion on another thread I can say that there was no real riveting on our little Woolwich copy Astraea, we did fit a portion of knee in the well deck area, along with a butt strap, gunwhale angle etc but these were with rivet heads fitted from the inside as a late addition to the job. It took me ages! Steve
  3. 7 points
    Just returned from our first fortnight on a Narrowboat, having bought a share in NB Minuet. As you can see, most of the fortnight’s trip was accompanied by torrential rain and gusty winds ☹ Minuet is based this year at Dunchurch Pools Marina, and we arrived on the Thursday evening, unpacked all our stuff and settled into our first night on a Narrowboat. In the morning, I drove the 3 or 4 minutes over to Braunston Marina to pick up Terry Robinson of TR Handling, who would take us out for the day to ‘show us the ropes’. The plan was to take an easy cruise up to Hillmorton Locks, then wind and come back down to Braunston, where he was exhibiting and we were going to be part of the Shared Boat Show which was on that weekend. Unfortunately, we turned right instead of left out of the Marina and found ourselves heading for Braunston and the Braunston Flight, with the dreaded Tunnel beyond that! We survived, albeit having sacrificed much of the newly-painted hull… and we learnt a lot of valuable information from Terry. The weekend of the Shared Boat Show at Braunston was beautifully warm, a real T-Shirt and shorts couple of days… lots of lovely visitors to Minuet, who all loved her cool blonde interior. And we sold one of the two shares available! Braunston, the village, was lovely, and we particularly enjoyed the wonderful Butcher’s shop. At 4pm on the Sunday, we untied and moved off… just at that moment, the wind became a gale and I battled to get Minuet out of the tight exit and onto the Canal. But we were soon off to our overnight pitch at the bottom of Napton Hill. On Monday morning, we were due to meet another couple with a share in Minuet, whose daughter lives near Napton, and who had offered to come with us up the Napton flight and give us a bit of help advice. After that, we were on our own! The weather was quite atrocious for the rest of the fortnight! We had everything from gales, hail, thunder, torrential driving rain… but also stretches of bright warm sun, so we were for ever changing clothes from waterproofs to shorts and back to waterproofs in the course of a half hour. Over the two weeks, my handling skills developed well, from zero to about 3 out of 10, and the locks became easier to deal with… we had lots of adventures, including running aground a couple of times and narrowly avoiding a head-on collision with a runaway narrowboat.. Highlights were mooring up at Cropredy and exploring the village, with its lovely church and the Red Lion pub, mooring overnight in the middle of Banbury, visiting the Cathedral of the Canals at Braunston, spending an afternoon sheltering from the rain in the warm CanalChef at the top of the Hillmorton Flight and a wonderful warm evening at Napton (below) As we returned to Dunchurch Pools, the weather was changeable… but as we turned into the Marina and headed for the Diesel Jetty, a huge side-wind sprung up, along with a torrential downpour, and Minuet was blown backwards away from the Jetty, I could do nothing about it…. Eventually decided to go head-first into the wind, past the Jetty and let the wind blow us back on to it, even though the Pump-out tube would then be on the wrong side of the boat. That worked, but then of course, the lady from the Marina wasn’t keen to venture on to the Gunwhale in the driving rain and howling gale, so I had to do a DIY Pump-out which was… exciting in those conditions! We managed to get Minuet to her home Jetty, and spent a couple of hours cleaning and polishing in readiness for the next owners, who were due onboard the next day. Naturally, the very moment we locked her up and headed for the car, the wind dropped, the sun came out and hasn’t gone in for a week ☹ Despite the weather, we really enjoyed our first trip on a Narrowboat, and we’re already planning and looking forward to our next trip in November. November?! OMG, the weather will surely be even worse! Never mind, there’ll be more time to spend in pubs and the CanalChef!
  4. 6 points
    It was me who brought Bosley to Stowe Hill. I found it lying in Oxford under the name of Fir Cone and in very poor condition. Here is part of an article i wrote for the HNBC Mag: Fir Cone was obviously historic but what actually was it? Initially I couldn't believe that a boat so short and relatively light could ever have built as an ice boat It also seemed, although I had no way of measuring, to be full beam whereas ice boats are normally rather narrower to avoid jamming on pack ice in locks and bridges. And then it occurred to me that maybe it really was an ice boat but an ice boat built by someone who didn't really know what they were doing. Like a railway company maybe? After following up half-forgotten memories, some intuition and quite a bit of Googling I discovered a gentleman who had made a study of the maintenance boats of the Peak Forest Canal and struck gold. The Manchester Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway Company, a predecessor of the Great Central Railway, had acquired the Ashton, Macclesfield and Peak Forest Canals in 1848 and in the 1860s built a series of 7 ice boats at their depot at Gorton, Manchester - not at the canal yard where the wooden Joel and Maria were built but in the adjacent locomotive works. As I had suspected, they apparently proved too short to break a wide enough channel around bends for longer boats to follow and also too light. James Hewitt in his book "Adventures of the Nippy" describes one being pulled up on top of the ice scattering the crew in all directions some of whom were seriously injured. Of the seven boats at least 4 survive - Marsden and Whaley Bridge are at Ellesmere Port, Marple is at the museum at Gloucester and Fir Cone presently at Oxford. Local legend says two more are buried in the filled-in arm at Gorton and there is a day boat on the Mon and Brec which could well be the seventh. Marsden was renamed when transferred to the Huddersfield Narrow where it was the inspection boat for Standedge Tunnel. That advert in a dusty copy of Waterways World announced the sale of the fleet of the Conifer Line, a business run on the Worcester and Birmingham by the late Alan Picken before he went on to try and restore the Coombe Hill Canal almost single handed. Through a "friend of a friend" I managed to contact June Picken, Alan's wife who astonishingly remembered Fir Cone well and seemingly with much affection. She recalled Alan buying it from British Waterway's Northwich yard in 1973 - and its original name was Bosley! As Bosley is a village on the Macclesfield Canal, Fir Cone was confirmed as one of the Gorton seven. Paul
  5. 6 points
    One of the things I love about our canals is the variety of people and the different things they are doing. Most people are prepared to share the space and the two tings campaign has changed the way cyclists and pedestrains use the towpath - at least is has where I live. As has the way that most dog owners pick up after their pets. Recognising that the towpath is a shared space and therefore comes with a duty of respect is unfortunately something that a small minority of dog owners choose to ignore. Most dog owners are responsible, keep their dogs on leads, and recognise that you cant trust any dog 100%. However, the small minority let their dogs run freely on the tow path and have little control. Incidentally these people generally insist that 'he's really friendly and good with kids' or 'he won't go for you' or, my personal favourite, 'he's really well trained' (then why has he run off from you? and why wont he leave me alone when you call him?). These people also seem to take massive offence when I politely request they put their dog on the lead, even if its just while they come past the moorings, which is maybe 200 meters of bank!! I like dogs, and dogs off leads has never been a problem for me before, however since moving we have started a family and my little girl is just learning to walk. She is also very inquisitive. She also has a thing for all things four legged. Our mooring is on the towpath and because of the way some dog owners behave I have to take my little girl elsewhere to give her the chance to practice walking as there are too many twists and turns and it is really difficult to see if a dog is coming. This is a real shame as the towpath along the river where we are is beautiful and full of things to inspire her imagination. I think all dogs should be on leads on the towpath - regardless of how 'well trained' they are! Anyone agree/disagree? Any thoughts on how I might effectively approach this with 'the minority'?
  6. 6 points
    I would like to say at this point chaps and chapesses that you must all remember this isnt real life its a forum where lots of people dare not even give their location or boat name out and it aint serious innitt. The members who used to get super wound up and on occasion nasty have gone off to another well policed forum called " The playgound " or something to do with weather iirc where everyone can call each other a F in C and other moronic terms and they deserve each other innitt. We now all play nicely dont we 😀
  7. 6 points
    I learnt a valuable lesson about 30 years ago. If you can't stand the answer don't ask the question. The basis being that if you question a bureaucratic regime a point blank question that can only result in a YES or NO answer then you are likely to be putting somebody with no authority in an impossible position. Consequently they will default to negative to protect themselves and not be responsible for setting a precedence. The answer will be no. Do it and wait for them to find the evidence that says you can't, it won't be criminal law, and even if they try to insinuate it is, you can always say you called up and were told it was ok. The complications arising from that would suggest no repercussions just to get out of the situation.
  8. 6 points
    A prime example of a blinkered view of environmental matters. If greenhouse gases were our only concern then we could produce limitless amounts of nuclear waste and not give a jot about how we will deal with it. Climate change is one concern but we really should be taking a holistic view rather than just cherry picking the latest fads and sound bites.
  9. 6 points
    I read somewhere it came out of the agreed marketing and publicity budget - so perhaps we are spared some other weird campaign. Did a quick bit of market research amongst friends - who admittedly might not be a balanced demographic sample, but not one could see the logic. One who is definitely not an unbiased commentator, but a serious business-person, and not a boater on the inland waterways, was outraged by the thought that CRT were trying to get pounds from punters in order to fund a re-branding exercise - its not the cost of the design of the logo, but the time effort and resources that will go into putting this brand onto all the hard targets - i.e. signage uniforms and bumf that will be used to drive home the message. Even more worrying is management's blinkered determination to steamroll this kind of thing through without recognising that it increases the alienation of the boating fraternity. We see excuses based on finance for so many other needs within the system, but mysteriously funds can be found for something which is not central to the purpose. The most constant and untapped resource for publicising the waterways are the boaters, there are 35,000 of them, not to mention the businesses that depend on them for their livelihood - and yet, speaking for myself, I feel unable to feel positively towards the Trust, and therefore do not act as good publicity for them. I feel they are intent on turning this wonderful heritage into a theme park. There is a 2,000 mile network that is a link to a time of prosperity and growth, produced by hard manual work, a time when the link between people and resources was direct and rewarding. This example could be used too inspire a generation. Added to that, the joy of the waterway gained from experiencing life at the speed the human body finds comfortable, walking speed. CRT seems to suggest that the waterways can be all things to all people. If they can only be saved by increasing tourism on an industrial scale, then we will have lost a living heritage, and be poorer for it.
  10. 5 points
    Even if it's not excessively bright (do they make ones dimmer than their conventional counterparts?) it's an unnecessary and, to many, unwelcome change. A more powerful light really isn't necessary, and neither is a more energy efficient one - when it's on, the engine's running. Any advantage they bring to the owner is at the expense of those coming the other way. The defence rests.
  11. 5 points
    Well I think you have found the problem. The pump was activated but not actually pumping (whether a pump fault, wiring fault or blockage who knows) so it continued to pump for ever and this flattened the batteries completely. Almost certainly this has terminally killed the batteries or at least removed a massive amount of their capacity. New batteries required. Obviously whilst the sump thing is what it is despite being a "bad idea", the solution is firstly to clean out the sump and pump on a regular basis. These sump boxes are not sealed as they have to allow displaced air in and out, and if the pump gets blocked etc the foul water will overflow into the bilges. Bad! Secondly, when leaving the boat, ensure the electrics are turned off at the master switch, then this can't be a problem. But if it were my boat and a gravity drain was impossible, I would replace the sump with a whale gulper and manual switch. No more blockages, no more overflows, no more risk of long periods of a blocked pump running. There are a few certainties in life, death and taxes being the popular ones, but another certainty is that sump boxes WILL clog up, WILL have sticky float switches, WILL lose electrical power and thus overflow, WILL get their gubbins blocked with grease and food and thus overflow. These are certainties, it is only a matter of time, and probably a short time. Thus dirty smelly water in the bilges is an inevitability. Get a Gulper!
  12. 5 points
    Stop reading this suff - it only winds you up! Try Good Housekeeping or Gardeners Weekly.
  13. 5 points
    Of course its sport. One fox versus 40 hounds plus god only knows how many pricks on horseback and ferrets to dig the fox out if it ever did get to ground Same as the T---s that run down magnificent stags until completely exhausted before going for a quick guffaw to the village pub.
  14. 5 points
    This obsession with asking what everyone thinks of a boat for sale puzzles me. What matters is what you think of it, not everybody else, nor indeed anybody else! Have you ever bought a house? Or a car? Does that involve a bunch of strangers you've never met as well? If you want to go out for a meal do you read up every review you can find and then decide where to go? I only ask because I don't and I'm wondering now if I should. I truly don't mean to sound grumpy or critical, I really am not. What occurs to me is that you are having a hard time getting into the market and seem to be being beaten at the last minute or being put off particular boats. Which you were happy with before and incidentally then get sold quite quickly. I really can't help wondering if perhaps having just highlighted a boat and making everybody else here aware of it, one of the many hundreds of silent members here then pulls their finger out and nips in while you look for other people's reasons to criticise it. I bet if you made a list of "Must haves" & "Mustn't haves" and then did a search within your budget, you'd have a shortlist in about an hour. Then go view and put in an offer £10-15K less subject to satisfactory survey on your favourite, maybe renegotiate if you have to. Do that and I'll see you out on the cut, having a great time, otherwise perhaps you just enjoy the looking? Whatever good luck.
  15. 4 points
  16. 4 points
    Apologies to the OP for my participation in disrupting their thread yesterday. Good luck with the boat, should you choose to buy one. In my twenty years of narrowboat ownership, the only down side has been diy blacking, and to be honest, even that ain't too bad.
  17. 4 points
    The above is just what I suspect Rusty69's doctor would have advised - a dose of "Ange Management"!
  18. 4 points
    The forum is the sum of its parts, without its members it would be completely pointless. Not everyone likes or could like everyones elses posting style or content. So to sum up, stop talking nonsense and keep posting
  19. 4 points
    Completely agree. Yes its sad when these things happen to people but why oh why do we put multi millionaires who have earned their money from such as football on pedestals when thousands of people earn peanuts doing megga important jobs such as carers? a sad indictment on our society.
  20. 4 points
    As usual, it appears that CRT are responding to the wrong message. This somewhat churlish comment suggests they are cross that some people have assumed that there will be costs involved - how dare we? My gripe is that it is the waste of manpower and energy. Whilst sitting in an office getting excited about the prospect of a new logo, they could instead have been trying to find out what they needed to do increase the awareness of the existing one. So a survey revealed that 36% of people did not recognise the brand. CRT response seems to be ' it's not our fault it's a lousy brand so lets change it'. Those who are complaining may well share my view that if you are responsible for something, you are responsible, and the sensible thing would have been to examine the marketing strategy. For instance - can anyone ever recall seeing a TV advert - in fact, when can anyone remember ever seeing the logo out of context, by which I mean, not close to the waterways. The marketing strategy appears to be let's preach to the converted and hope the rest of the country who do not live near a canal or navigable river somehow, through osmosis, know who we are and what we do. he brand and logo do not belong to management, it belongs to us - in the sense that it is the public who are asked to support the waterways, and to do that we need to be able to identify with it. If you google 'cost of change' there are dozens of scholarly papers and articles that make it clear, change is never cost neutral - and it is nearly always not just a direct financial cost. Goodwill is worth money too. If anyone can be bothered, can they ask CRT how many people complained to them in the last 12 months about the existing logo?
  21. 4 points
    The rules do need to be rewritten - I never agreed with the ban on religion and politics and thought at the time the moderating team should have focused on the individuals who were at the heart of the nasty meltdown that happened at the time. There were also people that received a lifetime ban who would normally have just been told off - the atmosphere was hysterical and disproportionate and we lost some good members who will never return as a result. I believe it's right that free discussion should be allowed in the VP but also agree with MJG that it's ridiculous to allow it when the rules clearly state it's not allowed. Daniel is still the forum owner but, when I was privy to moderator discussions was rarely available - he has a demanding career and is a young man with a social life so didn't and still doesn't have the time required to effectively run the forum. I did suggest that if he wasn't willing to relinquish control he at least nominated a "second in command" who could make executive decisions without waiting for Daniel to come back from an overseas business meeting. That advice was acknowledged but nothing happened - a typical response. I still believe Daniel's intentions are honest but he's misguided in thinking he can run this forum at this point in his life. I found it impossible watching the moderating team waiting for direction while forum members were calling for a response. That's one of the reasons I had to walk away. Anothe reason was that forum members who'd I'd previously considered as friends responded with such aggression to my posts. The one I remember the most is when one member insisted another should be moderated and when I tried to calm things until Daniel was available was told in no uncertain terms that moderator action wasn't required. You really are in a no win situation. For every one that insists the mods should do something there's a backlash that insists on freedom of speechl One thing I do know is that I will never ever be involved in the moderating team or count the beans for any forum ever again. Gulp do I post this? Ok yes
  22. 4 points
    Bloke deserves a golden shower!
  23. 4 points
    You can't graze animals on a nuclear power plant. I recall the protests to stop wind turbines being built where the Rugby radio masts were... ...The campaign was so successful that there will now be 6000 houses overlooking the canal rather than wind turbines and sheep.
  24. 4 points
    Animals including the owl usualy kill for food and they don't cheat. Pathetic weedy humans call it " Sport " blowing some magnificent beast away with a bloomin great gun. The difference is significant.
  25. 4 points
    Handsome is as handsome does. Anyone interested in calling them vermin or condoning blood sports can accompany me to the car park.
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