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Tigerr

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  1. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    When you say 'the most traumatic' - could you expand a bit? What is it exactly in you mind when you think of this 'most traumatic? When you use the words 'clean break' - likewise what actually is it you think will be 'clean'? These are words, you have used them so presumably there is a picture in your mind of what they mean in actual reality and people's lives. 'Clean break' is I think fascinating. It sort of suggests a surgical hygiene, an unencumbered freedom to start afresh, and removal of 'dirt'. but a moment of thought about the actual reality of international treaty obligation and ongoing survival, makes the language completely meaningless. There actually is no such thing as 'clean break'. The words are blah - pure blah. It is another part of a delusional language of inane metaphor and emotive slogan that seems to have bewitched those seeking refuge from reality. As for 'the most traumatic' this has been spelt out by those involved (aka 'experts' so not to be believed). The trauma will be quite spectacular and life shortening for a lot of vulnerable people. You wouldn't mind that though, you say?
  2. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    Its no longer about brexit. hasn't been for a long time. It is about fear of loss of identity. Once you have drunk the kool-aide - it simply isn't possible to admit error so doubling down is the thing. That's why it has become so easy to dismiss informed opinion and fact as 'fake news'. When this started, it was about future prosperity and money for our services. now it is about the amount of pain that will be required to lead to some vague ideal future. In due course it will be about why 'we' were betrayed by 'them'. All driven by 40 years of right wing media owners driving consistent messages about blame of 'the others' for the plight of people, while their chums got rich. Its been very successful because those who have been lied to for so long are so inured they no longer ask themselves why they think the way they do. And facts have become 'alternative truth'. The canal world is of course one that attracts people who want to recreate the past, see themselves as oppositional resistance, survivalist individuals, or simply want to run away from modern reality into a nostalgic olde style theme park. Plus of course a disproportionate number of bitter resentful old divorced blokes for whom 'modernity' has meant losing the money and respect they thought an entitlement. Brexit has been a gift for them.
  3. Tigerr

    Boxing Day Meet.

    I think it was 1969, that particular incident. I was only involved because I was a child and happened to be there at the moment. At the time it was meaningless - I only came to regret it later because it sort of suggested I wanted to be in that crowd of hoorays and by then I didn't. The heavy petting was a few year after. Of course lots of worse things happen, but doing bad stuff because worse stuff is going on elsewhere isn't really a defence, is it. You are still doing the bad stuff.
  4. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    Why are all your posts in huge type? then tiny type? It is like coming through the door of the pub and shouting at the top of your voice. It makes it painful to read what you have to say. Or entering waving a huge banner, walking round, sitting down and talking quietly. Whatever - it doesn't help make your point.
  5. Tigerr

    Boxing Day Meet.

    I think the issue is that you seek to defend the indefensible, but are convinced of your own rightness. This is of course very distressing for you. Your relative experience of country life, while it may matter to you and give you a sense of issue ownership - is no more meaningful than, to take a perhaps offensive example - a slave owners protestations that their experience of owning slaves give them a unique insight into slavery. Killing animals for fun and fancy dress pageant isn't actually defensible. Bull fighting and fox hunting are on the same page of primitive human social behaviour. And the same page of history. 'Country life' is not a unique exception but just life, it isn't detached from the rest of society, and subject to the law of the land. this of course is profoundly troubling for the rural landowners and their 'position'.
  6. Tigerr

    Boxing Day Meet.

    I used to hunt, with the VWH hunt in the cotswolds as a pony clubber, and later youth. (That's quite a long tine ago). Look back with shame actually. Mostly it was because the hunt ball was one of the best chances of getting laid, or heavy petting, in my whole life at that time and that mattered. It is mainly a social occasion and quite a big thing to socially 'in' for those involved. Plus showing off on my horse, and doing some challenging riding, in company. I never saw a fox killed because I was so far back - but they were killed and I did get an awful tail stump smeared on me at one unfortunate moment. It was gross , and not what I was there for but thought it might improve my chances. The hunt was totally a parade and social status thing - and frankly the dogs and blokes in fancy kit, whips and horns were like atmospheric background - a kind of upper class theme park ride and proof of inclub status. I appreciate the middle class posters here who aspire to that status. It is quite understandable, and the invitation to teh manor may well be in he post. But doesn't make it right. Anyway I am now ashamed to have taken part in such a thing. I never got laid, just snogged and dumped. That wild animals died in that is to my shame.
  7. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    Luckily there is a massive rush to invest in plants for the electric cars of the future which will be allowed into the cities of Europe. I expect international car manufacturers will flock to invest in the UK, just as soon as the uncertainty over future viability is sorted out, or the government can find the huge 'incentives' required to compensate them - Nissan's 'comfort letter' but bigger. Do you think that is going to what happens in a tariff restricted, import barriered economy?
  8. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    It is his wife's car. As has been repeatedly noted. Of course, during the civil war Bercow's wife would have been his property, and responsibility to discipline, and your comment thus entirely valid from that period. There has been some teasing of brexiteers on this thread for their desire to turn the clock back but possibly not that far?
  9. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    Well since you ask - international export, distributor set-up and management, pricing, and market entry, for a start. 30 years. Founded a successful mid sized UK based consultancy to major global businesses working across 70 markets - EU and global. Founded, built and sold. I was, for a while, an 'expert' in the area of pricing, launching, and building beers and spirits. My expertise is now probably a bit out of date as I have been retired 4 years and digital has come up very fast. However - I am not an expert on tariff, transport and port logistics management for just in time or perishables. That's why I listen to those who are. Hope that helps.
  10. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    Well, as far as I am concerned the answer, obviously, is to put a stop to the nonsense of Brexit. A view I share with what is now a majority of the electorate. (You Gov data last weekend). Bring on the people's vote. There is no deal to be had that is as good for the people of the UK as our current one with the EU, as everyone now agrees. It is simply a fudged act of self harm for lack of leadership. I am inclined to believe 'experts' instead of charlatans and fantasists with regard to a no deal exit. I admit to not being an expert myself, outside my own area of expertise - much as I wouldn't attempt to take my own appendix out based on a video on the internet but would consult an actual doctor who has done it before. I see IanD has given a technical reply.
  11. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    Thank heavens for some common sense. You should be in charge of the CBI/Road Haulage Association/ Port of Dover/National Health/Airports Authority/NFU, or any/all of the other professional bodies who have been coming forward to suggest there might be some very big problems. What do they know eh? They are just 'sheeples' or 'fake news'. The beauty of ignorance, and its great danger, is that when one has no idea what one doesn't know, one can enjoy 'feeling certain' of what one knows. The more you 'feel' certain the stronger the certainty becomes, and eventually new information can be dismissed because it doesn't match up with the certainty of feelings, so can't be true. You can see complete fantasy alternative realities being woven upthread, based on ludicrous survivalist self sufficiency yearnings and dreams. 'Stop the world we want to get off' is probably the real slogan but 'take back control' seems more positive doesn't it.
  12. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    The govt today 'road tested' the HGV stacking process. 67 trucks were successfully marshalled, but not at rush hour for fear of causing congestion. So 6,000 will be no problem at all. They are still dredging the harbour at Ramsgate ready for the fleet with no ships, even though it has been pointed out the berths are too narrow for teh ships that don't exist, even if they did. I expect to see captain Mainwaring and the rest of the crew from Dad's Army on customs duty next. At least the Europeans are laughing.
  13. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    You can't seriously think employers should be allowed to decide 9in an informed way of course) whether to inflict an insanity inducing life shortening toxin on employees because it covers quicker can you? Have you got hatters in the family tree?
  14. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    the lead paint law was more about stopping the levels of early insanity among painters and decorators, stripping the stuff on piecework rates with blowtorches. Or kids licking it off their unregulated toys.
  15. Tigerr

    Brexit 2019

    I think watever was more concerned about being not allowed to inhale lead paint anymore.
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