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Richard10002

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Richard10002 last won the day on September 15 2018

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  1. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    Freudian slip? i have never said the EU is perfect... merely that being a part of it is better than the alternative. In financial terms, I think even the “leavers” now admit that quite openly they/you are now in “its much more than trade and finances” territory, and even a chunk of that is slipping away on a daily basis. Whatever anybody says, “It’s the economy, stupid!”
  2. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    In a sense, I don’t think they allow themselves the negativity required to see something like that coming... or they aren’t allowed to admit it. for example: if Gordon Brown had seen it coming, and admitted it, he would have had to stop spending money to buy his party votes, and probably started a kind of austerity programme, which would have lost him support, and opened him up to criticism from the opposition. It looks like it’s OK to be austere after the event, but not in advance.
  3. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    Given that she knew she was going to lose, there must have been a political reason for going ahead with the vote, rather than calling it off, and going to Brussels for a different deal that could have won. I think I heard Farage talking about supporting a Norway style deal earlier today? Perhaps that was always the Plan? She now goes and gets a better deal that would never have been accepted prior to today, but which will seem so much better that MPs clamour to vote for it.... and were out! A nice soft Brexit, acceptable to Smelly, and as good as it gets for Remainers, given that we lost
  4. Richard10002

    12v electric for wifi

    I’ve never used 100Gb, but I can watch videos and all kinds of stuff, with gay abandon, and don’t worry at all about reaching or exceeding the limit.
  5. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    Yet you seem to want them to have total control of our country.... It seems that nobody, (leavers and Remainers), trusts the government, yet half the voters from two years ago want them in charge of everything. Beggars belief really!
  6. Richard10002

    12v electric for wifi

    I've got Three HomeFi on the boat. The router runs off 12v so I've got an adapter and the right sized plug, and it works great. It's even got aerial sockets so you can plug in an outdoor aerial if in low power reception areas.
  7. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    and what are they, now that we know that parliament never lost its sovereignty?
  8. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    But, given the system we have, David Cameron did not have to consider UKIP the threat that he did.
  9. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    Could be scaremongering to encourage MPs to vote for the deal?
  10. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    If leaving with a shit deal or no Deal are the alternatives, I want MPs to have a bloody good go at getting this farce stopped. If they fail, so be it. As for voting against MPs because of their Brexit stance, it will likely cancel out over the two parties, or we might get a Lib Dem government. What price student fees then Part of me now doesn't care if Mrs May succeeds on Tuesday. At least it will be a done deal and it looks like as close to remaining as it's possible to be, while still fulfilling what you voted for
  11. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    A bit like each individual vocal Brexiteer makes it sound like you all got together and planned a specific form of Brexit - "The Will of The People!" The fact is that, when it suits your agenda, your version of The Will of The People is as if they voted as one.... but when it doesnt suit you, it is as if they didnt. The people were so undecided at the last election that they voted for a hung parliament. It doesnt matter whether it was planned, or not, (I agree that it wasnt).... but it is what happened. They were so undecided that they gave parliament the power to exert its sovereignty. One thing they didnt do is vote 86% for leaving the EU, in any way, shape, or form. A kind of analogy might be, (but might not be ) : When the property market changes from being buoyant to the opposite, I have often said that it is almost like everyone got round a table and decided to stop/start buying houses - they obviously didnt, in either case, but the outcome is as if they did. As to what we are actually experiencing: These are the tried and tested rules of parliament operating just as they should - the government is going down a path that parliament will not tolerate, and that sovereignty, that you have been spinning as lost, is proving that it exists in spades. It may not succeed, but it is going to have a good go, and I truly hope that is as good as you have been suggesting.
  12. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    When I said UKIP, it was in derision. They never got more than 2 seats in parliament, a few that they didn’t want in Europe, and I am amazed that Cameron even payed them the slightest bit of attention. Now that Farage has done a runner, UKIP has become openly what it always was and has no chance of achieving anything more than the BNP ever did. My point was that there isn’t another party to take the place of either of the existing two, and it hasn’t happened for almost a century. I think you will find that the majority of the country will be delighted. A referendum would merely confirm this. As I’ve said... the people created a weak government at the last election to make sure that parliament was in a position to exert its sovereignty as necessary. Hopefully it’s not too late.
  13. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    That would suggest that you mean about half of Tory voters and half of labour voters... I’m not quite sure what kind of party that would be? The last election suggests that this is not even close to being at the forefront of people’s minds.
  14. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    Like UKIP? No new party has managed to dislodge the stranglehold that the two main parties have in my lifetime.... I dont see it changing anytime soon.
  15. Richard10002

    Brexit 2019

    As Smelly says.... we wouldnt be members, we would have no MEPs, and we would have left what he calls a crock of crap that is the EU. It isnt rocket science.... the deal would mean we would have left the EU - Brexit? You can say what you like about the relationship that we are left with, and you can guess what might happen in 10 or 20 years but, for the time being we would have left the EU. What, exactly, did you vote for?
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