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I expect it was because they just didn't care it would last only thirteen years....

how long was it submerged? It sound fuel related but if it had been submerged a while it could be mud and sediment heating up and smoking in the exhaust as the engine still turns over? Dan

I would expect you to

It's hard to imagine all of what you describe without images. Photos! We need to see and love photos on this forum. Your wife/girlfriend even next door neighbour, we're not fussy.

When I take out the cupboard I'd have a metal sheet below it just in case. I grew up around coal fires, so I know what they're like.

This one too? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Boat-Stove-And-Mounting-Bracket-spitfire-Stove/142611530911?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dfb72349d3d5a437da2178fd244ae1e0d%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D371479630493&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A8ffd96dd-ece0-11e7-9295-74dbd180bfdf%7Cparentrq%3Aa435f9dd1600ab66ad3b44f0ffee57f3%7Ciid%3A1

Calm down,calm down. I wasn't completely slagging off Chinese products. I quite like a take away now and then.

It would, but you can't put anything in the homebrew in case you infect it, and it's a sealed unit while fermenting leaving a gap for wires/other will also be bad.

Just needed a sign writer then

Right, let's see if this explains it as I can't find an image. Take the waste out of your first bowl and through the skin fitting. At some point (midway?) insert a T junction, making sure the T part is facing upwards. Connect the second sink to this T piece making sure it comes from above. If you can, get hold of 'The narrowboat builders book' by Graham Booth. Kevin

Yes it get that in Scotland, but the same applies, the operator could still mess up. I was however more thinking if this design was used for the Bradley restoration on the BCN where it would, one assumes, be user operated. I don’t know it that puts more onous on the system or not, but it is an interesting design issue. More likely if the restoration happed would be an electric lift bridge I guess, but this would be different.

Mine only has any effect when the boat is moving at very low speeds, but for single handling a big boat it can be very useful indeed. It's also great for reversing. After 13 years it's never failed me (touch wood) - unlike the main engine which I stupidly came to rely on but which failed on a tidal river! Any equipment can fail so that's not really an argument for not having it. Yes, to my annoyance on several occasions I've found the same applies to the main prop. I've had all sorts wrapped around it, coal bags, bike tyres, etc. Yet oddly I've never once had anything caught around the BT prop. Probably because it's not spinning much of the time. You're much more likely to foul your main prop than a BT if you use it correctly and sparingly.

You should never give CT a hard time. He is the forum's most prolific giver of green things. Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year CT. JP

I'm in a Mc Spoons establishment using their WiFi. There are two brats running around downstairs, shouting, unrestrained by their parent/minder. I would much rather well behaved dogs were allowed in rather than semi feral children. (And yes I am a genuine grumpy old git 'cos I'm an ex teacher!) ETA And just now a baby has started wailing.

And for ultimate realism, can you make the bow thruster work most of the time, but fail if the user comes to rely on it?

Sure, I could simply display a black screen for some seconds. Would not be much different than simulating the effect of a bottle of wine on the helmsman (consumption, not the other).

Definitely handy when reversing.

Can you simulate reaching inside the boat to find two badly located buttons out of sight from the tiller, often one above the other so you have to guess which is left and which is right, then not being sure if they are working because you don't notice any difference? Richard

Maybe it's cathartic (sp?) in a way. You do have the choice not to read it if you wish. Agree it's maybe not the ideal place, especially as these days this forum is tactless expert hell.

Hold on a minute there, Musky! You're not the real Dr Bob?! Do we have am imposter in da house?

You have made it clear you are not now getting a boat so why not go and spend some time with your terminally ill wife rather then wasting it on here?

Engines should be serviced on a regular basis, not just when they go wrong. To be honest, it sounds more like you had something round the propellor which affected drive more in the reverse direction. This may now have partially cleared

In the words of Catherine Tate, worra load of bollox.

Smuggist , Duckist ,where do I start?

Jason why can't you just buy something to get you both out on the water, forget about the big ideas just buy something you can use, we bought ours knowing we would only have maybe a couple of seasons use out of it, turns out things got worse quicker than we hoped so have now moved it closer to home on the Llangollen, we have had nothing but negative comments since we moved it, but its what we have and I will ignore all of them ,as long as we have next spring/summer to enjoy days and weekends out then I will be happy, just get out there on whatever you can afford, plenty out there for a couple of grand just go for something simple ,a GRP with a four stroke outboard is cheap to buy and cheap to run, far better than the vr goggle nonsense, do the right thing and get her afloat asap...

IIMS? Really? I've never of heard them being held in any particular high regard. As I understand it, they sell correspondence courses and qualify their students as marine surveyors without any practical content to their education. Of course, many surveyors accredited by them produce recognised survey reports, but do they as an organisation carry any real authority when it comes to setting standards?

I know boaters get concerned about damaging our planet, but the entire solar system sounds particularly worrying................ (Sorry, I'll get my coat!.......................)

I’ve just had a Humber barge surveyed, last week , and had an interesting conversation with said surveyor on overplating. It seems many overplated boat may become uninsurable in the not to distant future. Thank you for the welcome.

Apply some heat to the area, sometimes frees it up a bit. I found just making sure that the compression levers were down held the engine solid enough to do mine last year.

You seem to be suggesting that it's the electrical appliances that are responsible for pitting? You can have as many electrical appliances on a steel boat as you wish and as long as the boat's DC system is correctly wired and the AC system has some form of earth isolation when plugged into shore power then the steel should not suffer any more pitting than a boat without any electrical gizmos. My old narrowboat was badly pitted all over and had to be overplated yet it had never been plugged into shore power as it has no AC system and only a basic DC system. In contrast, my "new" boat has loads of electrical gizmos and has spent a fair amount of its life on shore power. The hull below the waterline still looks new. I realise that there are other variables such as maintenance, but there is no direct correlation between electrical gizmos on board and the amount of hull pitting. That's a myth.

I have stayed quiet, but in light of the revelations on this thread I feel i must post... I actually went over to Sawley with the intention of surveying the damage to the drive leg on Kathleen, on inspection it needed a total strip down and repair, even doing the job for free it was going to be several hundred pounds worth of parts, seals, gaskets and oil. I phoned around a lot of contacts and found a complete working enfield outdrive to replace the damaged one for £250, whilst i was there i checked over the engine and found it needed the injectors cleaning and possibly new nozzles also the glow plugs needed replacing ... the total cost would have been under £400 as i also had a word with the guys at sawley who i happen to know and they said they would move the boat to where i could work on it free of charge and offered me any assistance i may need. I put the above to the OP and told him i would do the job for the cost of the parts as Sawley were confident they could recoup his money for him by selling the boat in a repaired state, I was absolutely dumbfounded when he said .... no dont worry about it it served the purpose of getting me on the water so i will take a hit the money doesnt matter ... so you can imagine how shocked i was to read this post. Rick

Tis a shame Tony has been removed again, He may seem a beligerant old sod but in reality to speak to he is sound. Whilst forum owners can obviously do as they see fit the problem is with Tony gone we lose a great deal of real life Trent including tidal reaches knowledge which is a great loss to any forum whatever the reason. First hand extensive knowledge such as his is thin on the ground.

So, not a resounding vote of confidence for the longevity of the lightweight engined LPG generator.

When this boat was still in it's first building phase, Will Trickets name was never mentionned anywhere, and so I don't think that he had much (if anything at all) to do with the building of the hull. The original owners fitted the boat out themselfs, I remembered their wooden bathtub. Peter.

It has been widely reported that one reason they were kept operating for so long was that they realised that a huge amount of the journeys that were made were by people who leapt on and off between stops, because it was convenient, and who would not have bothered to board if they could only do it at bus stops. Stopping this practice meant less fares collected, so less revenue. No idea if that has any truth in it, but it makes a good story!

I remember some kid swinging out from the vertical pole on the platform of the school bus to jump off as it was still doing a damned good running speed and met a pillar box.

The forum has been going a very large number of years, and I suspect will carry on for many many more after the last time you post on it. Others are available......

Well I couldn't give a 'hoot and two parps'. Them as know it, know it, them as don't, probably couldn't be arsed to learn it because"its not needed on the Inland Waterways, and, anyway if I learned it, no-one else would recognise the signal, so what's the point ?"

Just to set the record straight it has nothing to do with speed of transit, it is everything to do with helping those who are experiencing difficulty with doing the thing that they love. I had to let my own boat go when I was found to have Cancer, and now that I am in remission I am getting my boating fix by helping others. I am also a Voluntary Lock Keeper for CRT on the Hanwell Flight on the Grand Union, and have been involved with canals all my adult life. I live within sight of Shepperton Studios and cover all the waterways from the Midlands To The River Wey.