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  1. Gerrard’s Cross railway tunnel. 300 odd metres long of arched construction and earth fill above. Notorious for having collapsed during construction. Built over a pre-existing railway. I know of loads of examples from experience which is why I know you will not succeed in defining it by construction or function. Been there, tried it and failed in possibly the only environment where it matters. A better example may be the Metropolitan and District railways in central London. Excavated from the top down and built over. I think you’d be in a massive minority of engineers or normal folk who don’t consider them as tunnels. I’ll add another that defies conventional definition, the immersed tunnel under the River Conwy on the A55. A tube laid on the river bed and covered with a protective earth bund. That’s a standard tunnelling method in the modern world. JP
  2. You won’t do it consistently in any other way and ultimately does it matter to anyone else other than the engineer responsible for its safety? The overall point is that a tunnel on the canal network is ultimately defined as such for no other reason than CRT say so. There’s no harm in a user defining it their way for their own satisfaction since it’s of no consequence, just be aware there will always be an exception to your rule. As I forewarned and is being demonstrated. And anyway it’s not an engineering definition, it’s an asset management definition. JP
  3. Firstly a tunnel is simply a subset of the wider group called bridges, as is a viaduct. In infrastructure management it’s generally the opposite. The purpose or construction is irrelevant and length is key as that’s the principle factor that defines the risk involved. On the UK’s railways a tunnel is nominally an overbridge of over 50 metres in length and a viaduct is an underbridge (and occasionally an overbridge) with more than 3 arches. The purpose of the distinction is to define the inspection and maintenance regimes. A bridge is inspected and condition scored as a single entity whereas a tunnel is divided into 10 metre lengths for that purpose and a viaduct into individual arches. The accountable engineer can ultimately decide which assets to classify as which according to their assessment of the risk (many motorway bridges are over 50 metres in length but managed as bridges not tunnels) which leaves the only givens as a tunnel ultimately has to be more than 10 metres long and a viaduct has to have more than one arch or span. I suspect CRT have a similar system. With Dunsley the risk is it being partially unlined rather than its length. If it were fully lined CRT may consider it a bridge. JP
  4. I think the claim of ‘on the system’ means on CRTs infrastructure, in which case it’s probably true.
  5. When it’s owner redefines it. There are undoubtedly longer bridges under CRTs jurisdiction than this tunnel but they are likely to be managed differently which is more important to the distinction between a bridge and a tunnel than any direct engineering criterion, for which there will always be an exception to the rule. This forum has been through that discussion to no avail previously. JP
  6. I suspect your main problem is that the information you are seeking is contained in the 1921 census and you’ll have to wait until next year until that becomes available online. Unfortunately your great grandfather died before the 1939 England & Wales Register was compiled so the most useful source of more recent information is not of help. Have you found your grandfather on the 1939 Register? JP
  7. You’re leading @Julie Marie down the garden path here. This is supposition on a massive scale. It’s a potential lead but having looked at the other thread Julie Marie started and conducted some searches it’s nothing more than that. Gilbert is a very common name and Midlands folk with connections to canal boating in the 19th century are far from uncommon. I can find at least five groups of people having some connection to canal boating that share the same surname as my most immediate boating ancestors and between which I can find no link even after many years of research. One of them lived in the same street as my ancestors but we’re not related. This is merely a starting point for research. Can Julie Marie confirm how she is conducting her research? JP
  8. Nothing wrong with Perry Barr top lock. You’re also probably OK at Rushall (Newton) Junction but there are services at Perry Barr. Bear in mind there are four residential properties at Perry Barr top lock and often other moored boats. It’s not a bad area (although I have to say that cos my wife grew up nearby). JP
  9. Rushall is a pleasant flight. It’s surroundings are 1930s suburbia. You can moor at Bromford Junction just below Spon Lane bottom lock. I’d prefer that to Ryders Green top lock offside. There’s also one visitor mooring at the end of the Engine Arm (I think). Both those are on your way rather than past it. Will you go out via Ocker Hill and back via Perry Barr? JP
  10. The house concerned is located on the offside to the south east of the bridge. The original picture shows the north western and south western elevations of the building. Click the link in post #2 for a comparison of the building with the original picture. The photos in posts #5 and #10 show the south eastern elevation of the house. JP
  11. I do nearly all my boating during school holidays and that includes bank holiday weekends. I don’t concur with the idea that you should avoid certain places. Go where you want to go, just be prepared that if you do get delayed you’ll have to put in some early starts or late finishes. Canals are rarely if ever busy outside the middle of the day and early and late are often some of nicest times to boat. That said I haven’t been unduly delayed during any of the last few years while boating in the same area you will be in. Teenage kids will likely want to be active and for that reason the Ashby might not be the best option due to lack of locks. The other extreme is the Warwickshire Ring (which many hire boats complete every week throughout the season) for which you will need to know they are going to be willing to work the large number of locks involved. I’ve done pretty much all the options you have available as a hirer both as child and parent and I would rate the Warwickshire ring as the best and Ashby as the worst from a family perspective. Ultimately why not ask the kids what sort of holiday they want? Deciding what makes a good holiday on their behalf sounds like a recipe for disaster. JP
  12. Yes it would but of course you only get a once in ten year snapshot and the relevant census here, 1921, will not be available until next year. There is no obvious record of a Gilbert family at Hatton in searching the 1911 census. JP
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