noddyboater Posted December 21, 2022 Report Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, spud said: is this advertised somewhere Not as yet, but quick sale needed. P.m. me if interested.
stagedamager Posted December 21, 2022 Report Posted December 21, 2022 Carina for sale. Screenshot from Facebook
Rob-M Posted December 21, 2022 Report Posted December 21, 2022 Would be wise to check the width of Carina, I believe it took quite a bit of pulling with Nansen II last time it came up the Delph to force it through the locks.
spud Posted December 26, 2022 Report Posted December 26, 2022 otley still for sale https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/malcolm-braine-55-traditional-for-sale/694166
Feeby100 Posted December 26, 2022 Report Posted December 26, 2022 34 minutes ago, spud said: otley still for sale https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/malcolm-braine-55-traditional-for-sale/694166 What a lovely boat for that money
MtB Posted December 26, 2022 Report Posted December 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, spud said: otley still for sale https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/malcolm-braine-55-traditional-for-sale/694166 Listing says SOLD now, 55 minutes later! Hardly a historic though is it, being built in 1971?
alan_fincher Posted December 26, 2022 Author Report Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, spud said: otley still for sale https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/malcolm-braine-55-traditional-for-sale/694166 1 hour ago, Feeby100 said: What a lovely boat for that money 47 minutes ago, MtB said: Listing says SOLD now, 55 minutes later! Hardly a historic though is it, being built in 1971? Yes, quite - it#s a "modern" boat. Except it almost certainly still has a wood based superstructure, so probably no great bargain after all.
Feeby100 Posted December 26, 2022 Report Posted December 26, 2022 But it does not say wooden says all steel
MtB Posted December 26, 2022 Report Posted December 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Feeby100 said: But it does not say wooden says all steel Looks like mostly windows to me! 😂
David Mack Posted December 26, 2022 Report Posted December 26, 2022 52 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: Except it almost certainly still has a wood based superstructure, so probably no great bargain after all. That certainly looks like a cabin made of wooden planking on wooden frames, which was Malcolm Braine's usual method when this boat was built. The planking would have been clad on the outside with masonite - basically a thick outdoor grade of hardboard, with aluminium d-section capping over the joints. But the ad says the boat has wood lined steel front doors, and that it underwent a full modification, 240v upgrade, partial refit and full professional repaint 9 years ago. So my guess is that as part of that work the masonite was stripped off and the wooden cabin was clad in welded steel.
Derek R. Posted December 26, 2022 Report Posted December 26, 2022 JAPONICA had that treatment, steel cladding over a wooden cabin. The internal tongue and groove cabin sides in OTLEY do appear to have quite a lot of dark staining along the joints. This could be caused by water condensing onto the inside of a steel cladding, and soaking into the wooden panelling. The roof (deckhead for the nautical of mind) is painted white. I do wonder what may be hidden beneath the paint. Is this reflected in the asking price? Only a visit and/or survey will tell. Someone likes it - Sold.
Admiral Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 Unusual Yarwoods. Says it was a station boat called Clyde 70ft Yarwoods
Athy Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 On 08/12/2022 at 17:51, ditchcrawler said: An interesting boat, perhaps over[riced, but in the current market, who knows? Isn't Parsons a make of gearbox rather than of engine?
stagedamager Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, Athy said: An interesting boat, perhaps over[riced, but in the current market, who knows? Isn't Parsons a make of gearbox rather than of engine? Parsons took base engines from other manufacturers and marinised them. In this case the Armstrong Siddeley AS2, which they marinised under the Parsons Merganser name. Most fully marinised AS engines will have the Parsons plate on, i think it's an AS2M stamp on it. Many others have taken industrial AS2s and marinised them but subtle differences make them stand out. They also used AS1 (Goosander) AS3 (Peregrine) and a Ford (Pike?) They also produced petrol paraffin models, the D4M I believe. Kind regards Dan 1
Athy Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, stagedamager said: Parsons took base engines from other manufacturers and marinised them. In this case the Armstrong Siddeley AS2, which they marinised under the Parsons Merganser name. Most fully marinised AS engines will have the Parsons plate on, i think it's an AS2M stamp on it. Many others have taken industrial AS2s and marinised them but subtle differences make them stand out. They also used AS1 (Goosander) AS3 (Peregrine) and a Ford (Pike?) They also produced petrol paraffin models, the D4M I believe. Kind regards Dan Excellent info. .Did they also make gearboxes?
Ray T Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Athy said: Excellent info. .Did they also make gearboxes? Yep. parsons gearbox - Search Images (bing.com) Edited January 21, 2023 by Ray T 1
David Mack Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Admiral said: Unusual Yarwoods. Says it was a station boat called Clyde 70ft Yarwoods I think the weird cabin shape might put people off. The FR4 is a nice looking engine, but too big really. It retains its butty stern and rudder with hydraulic drive, but appears to be a conventional stern tube arrangement with anti cavitation plates rather than the hydraulic motor being mounted in the rudder.
MtB Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, David Mack said: I think the weird cabin shape might put people off. The FR4 is a nice looking engine, but too big really. It retains its butty stern and rudder with hydraulic drive, but appears to be a conventional stern tube arrangement with anti cavitation plates rather than the hydraulic motor being mounted in the rudder. I find it a rather charming boat, with that weird semi-clerestory cabin roof. I'd be tempted buy it but for that over-ambitious asking price of £58k. Get real!
Tonka Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, MtB said: I find it a rather charming boat, with that weird semi-clerestory cabin roof. I'd be tempted buy it but for that over-ambitious asking price of £58k. Get real! They could have decluttered for the photos.Also done something about the rust
matty40s Posted January 26, 2023 Report Posted January 26, 2023 2x6cylinder Gardners for under £10k.... Not sure how good condition the boat is , but lordy, what a project. https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/23277704.suffolk-three-rivers-boat-auction-oulton-broad/ 1
magnetman Posted January 26, 2023 Report Posted January 26, 2023 It would certainly take a lot of cutting to get it into firewood sized pieces and it is getting late in the year now so one would need somewhere to keep it.. The copper scrap might be good !
Derek R. Posted January 27, 2023 Report Posted January 27, 2023 That's a 'project' that would absorb several hundred thousand pounds to complete, and then there's the ongoing cost of maintenance. Nice engines, and most likely will be removed for service in something else leaving this fine vessel to be scrapped, for £5K - £10K is a beg for someone to take it off their hands. Great shame,
magnetman Posted January 27, 2023 Report Posted January 27, 2023 Gardner 6LX isn't all that special. I don't know but it seems likely the types of places where these would have been used like fairgrounds and old trucks or buses will either have moved to newer equipment or have enough parts. If it was a pair of LW or L2 units that would be a lot more interesting but LX are common as muck.
Rob-M Posted January 27, 2023 Report Posted January 27, 2023 Cyprus and Cedar for sale, https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/yarwoods-northwich-butty-for-sale/722016
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