GUMPY Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Athy said: It does sound better. When I taught in London, some of my pupils lived in "Temple Fortune" - a name made up, as I recall, by estate agents to attract people who were upwardly mobile, but who didn't want "Cricklewood" in their addresses. Temple Fortune is not part of Cricklewood, it lies between the A41 and A1 just North of Golders Green it is part of Hampstead Garden Suburb, a very exclusive area. "This was part of the manor of Blechenham in Saxon times. The first part of its present name refers to ownership of the land hereabouts by the Knights Templar from 1243. The second part of the name may be a corruption of ‘fore-ton’, a farmstead that lay before somewhere – probably Hendon as one travelled from London." https://hidden-london.com/gazetteer/temple-fortune/ It was part of my stomping ground before I left London in the early 70's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Loddon said: Temple Fortune is not part of Cricklewood, it lies between the A41 and A1 just North of Golders Green it is part of Hampstead Garden Suburb, a very exclusive area. "This was part of the manor of Blechenham in Saxon times. The first part of its present name refers to ownership of the land hereabouts by the Knights Templar from 1243. The second part of the name may be a corruption of ‘fore-ton’, a farmstead that lay before somewhere – probably Hendon as one travelled from London." https://hidden-london.com/gazetteer/temple-fortune/ It was part of my stomping ground before I left London in the early 70's I've never been there so I'll believe you. I'm going on what I was told at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 54 minutes ago, Scholar Gypsy said: I did wonder once why there are so many towns in Germany called Umleitung My Father as a young airman in 1940 (17 yrs) was returning to camp by train. He was to change at Cheltenham, but fell asleep, until he felt the rattle of couplings as his train started to pull out of a station in the blackout. Peering into the darkness from his carriage window he made out the slow progress of a platform sign "Cheltenham" as it passed by. Leaping to his feet and getting tangled up in everybody else's legs he got the carriage door open and threw out his kit bag ..... he closely followed. Rolling to a halt and dusting himself down he limped back up the platform to retrieve his canvas bag where it had come to rest under the sign on the wall that helpfully declared "Gentlemen". He didn't improve with age. I clearly recall Sunday drives out in the late 60s that ended with him pouring over his AA Road Atlas while despairing about how many villages there were around here called "Loose Chippings" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Scholar Gypsy said: I did wonder once why there are so many towns in Germany called Umleitung. Their ubiquity must rival that of those resoundingly-named stations, Kein Ausgang and Herrendamen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Many years ago I lived in Germany and on a visit back to the UK I was stopped by the police and when asked for my address I gave it as 1 Einbahn Strasse Umleitung Copper duly noted it down and I was left to go on my way, I wonder how long it took before he realised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar Gypsy Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Athy said: I've never been there so I'll believe you. I'm going on what I was told at the time. I think the reference might have been to Fortune Green, which is between Cricklewood and West Hampstead (and very close to where I am now!). The estate agents have had various attempts to rebrand Kilburn as South West Hampstead, but it hasn't really caught on. West Hampstead and South Hampstead definitely exist ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenA Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) On 07/10/2020 at 22:28, PeterScott said: The red ring has worn away The real problem with this sign is its ridiculous accuracy . You must travel at at max speed of 6.43kph ( 3.9954 mph) and not 6.44 ( 4.00163 mph). The idea of being able, on a boat, to measure your speed to an accuracy of 10cm (4 inches) per hour is ludicrous. Edited October 12, 2020 by StephenA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, StephenA said: The idea of being able, on a boat, to measure your speed to an accuracy of 10cm (4 inches) per hour is ludicrous. Some of the London or K&A boaters can manage to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 The information centre signs in Bergues are very useful. Some interesting canals there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenA Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 If people can put in time travel plaques then I can include this : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo47 Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, StephenA said: The real problem with this sign is its ridiculous accuracy . You must travel at at max speed of 6.43kph ( 3.9954 mph) and not 6.44 ( 4.00163 mph). The idea of being able, on a boat, to measure your speed to an accuracy of 10cm (4 inches) per hour is ludicrous. This reminds me of a book on plumbing I found in my local public library in the early 1970's shortly after the UK's conversion to metric, where they had simply converted all the imperial units to metric without applying common sense. It referred to a [nominal 40 gallon] cold water tank with an approximate capacity of 181.844 litres, and [psi] pressures of so many 453.7 grams per 6.45 square centimetres without also stating the orginal imperial units, although in the latter case they did retain the original imperial numbers. One of the worst [best?] examples I came across was the first metric catalogue produced by a US electronics company which, in its tables of design data, gave the metric value of Pi as 79.79. When I went on a camping holiday in North Wales for the first time, I wondered what the Llwybr Cyhoeddus was that all the public footpath signs were pointing to. Edited October 12, 2020 by Ronaldo47 Typos, clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Athy said: It does sound better. When I taught in London, some of my pupils lived in "Temple Fortune" - a name made up, as I recall, by estate agents to attract people who were upwardly mobile, but who didn't want "Cricklewood" in their addresses. Some friends of mine started married life in South London, living first in St. Ockwell, and later moving to St. Reatham. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: Some of the London or K&A boaters can manage to! You're confusing "per hour" with "per annum". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar Gypsy Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, StephenA said: To be fair this is a logical sign from the US given the way a given street can be on more than one numbered highway (a state and county highway here, I think). For example (to bring this back to canals!) on the Grand Union/Oxford between Napton and Braunston a sign for boats travelling towards Braunston would say Grand Union (South) and Oxford Canal (North). Edited October 13, 2020 by Scholar Gypsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st ade Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Ronaldo47 said: This reminds me of a book on plumbing I found in my local public library in the early 1970's shortly after the UK's conversion to metric, where they had simply converted all the imperial units to metric without applying common sense. It referred to a [nominal 40 gallon] cold water tank with an approximate capacity of 181.844 litres, and [psi] pressures of so many 453.7 grams per 6.45 square centimetres without also stating the orginal imperial units, although in the latter case they did retain the original imperial numbers. I had similar issues as a child trying to follow instructions to build a crystal radio receiver - amongst the non-sense was to wind a certain number of turns of insulated wire around a ferrite rod "approximately 152.3 mm long by 9.524 mm diameter". I assume Practical Wireless (or whatever) had simple accepted verbatim "thou shalt use metric units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 14 hours ago, Scholar Gypsy said: I think the reference might have been to Fortune Green, which is between Cricklewood and West Hampstead (and very close to where I am now!). The estate agents have had various attempts to rebrand Kilburn as South West Hampstead, but it hasn't really caught on. West Hampstead and South Hampstead definitely exist ... You may well be correct, thanks for the information. I do remember estate agents' references to a house being in "Hampstead, N.W.6". For Northern readers, desirable Hampstead is in N.W.3; N.W. 6 contains more down-to-earth West Hampstead and even-further-down "County" Kilburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Near the Welsh border is a village called "New Invention ". Some way had added underneath "patent applied for ". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Todd Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Athy said: You may well be correct, thanks for the information. I do remember estate agents' references to a house being in "Hampstead, N.W.6". For Northern readers, desirable Hampstead is in N.W.3; N.W. 6 contains more down-to-earth West Hampstead and even-further-down "County" Kilburn. When I was a teenager in south London in 1960's, we lived in what everyone called Dulwich despite the fact that the Post Office insisted that our London Area was SE22 which they called East Dulwich, a very different area altogether and despite the fact that we were just within the Dulwich estate jurisdiction regarding property and planning. We all believed that we should have been SE23! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenA Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Scholar Gypsy said: To be fair this is a logical sign from the US given the way a given street can be on more than one numbered highway (a state and county highway here, I think). For example (to bring this back to canals!) on the Grand Union/Oxford between Napton and Braunston a sign for boats travelling towards Braunston would say Grand Union (South) and Oxford Canal (North). Yes - its the main road through Wiscasset which basically runs East-West - so it carries Route 1 north and Route 27 south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dor Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 19 hours ago, Scholar Gypsy said: I think the reference might have been to Fortune Green, which is between Cricklewood and West Hampstead (and very close to where I am now!). The estate agents have had various attempts to rebrand Kilburn as South West Hampstead, but it hasn't really caught on. West Hampstead and South Hampstead definitely exist ... As a student I lived in "West Chelsea" for a while ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said: That does neatly sum up the British weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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