pete harrison Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, John Brightley said: Here's Whitby and Pictor going round the turn single handed at Hawkesbury in 1980. Who it is steering I don't know though. A large Grand Union boat with its fore end as high as WHITBY in this image was a common sight a few years ago, many owners nowadays preferring to ballast them down a bit - which in my opinion defies the point of owning a large Grand Union boat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinaboat Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 10:11, Mike the Boilerman said: Curious thing about the Roach listing. It says Roach has a new bottom by Ian Kemp in 2017. I was under the impression that Ian had sadly passed away a number of years ago. Is that wrong? Could you be thinking of Ian Clifton Mike? He rebuilt Marcellus that used to be my home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie57 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, John Brightley said: Here's Whitby and Pictor going round the turn single handed at Hawkesbury in 1980. Who it is steering I don't know though. Looks like John Batten - the then owner- to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted October 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 54 minutes ago, pete harrison said: A large Grand Union boat with its fore end as high as WHITBY in this image was a common sight a few years ago, many owners nowadays preferring to ballast them down a bit - which in my opinion defies the point of owning a large Grand Union boat I think that until I read tales of people having to stop and fully dismantle a cratch and take the deck board down before they can get under something low! That does actually seem to arise quite often with unconverterted "big" boats with a deck board up, and my guess is that is why people often ballast the front down a fair bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Unballasted was fun on a windy day. On the Nene exiting a lock in a storm with very little way on we were blown round completely. Now converted and ballasted its no longer a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Fulbourne has camping accommodation under cloths, and so the cloths stay put all the time, unlike in working days. An unladen Big Woolwich with cloths up proved to be a nightmare in crosswinds, and hence the bow is now ballasted down somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipistrelle Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 14 hours ago, pete harrison said: I think there are very few who would want to commit to an unconverted butty at £29000, especially an unfinished project. I would be very interested in pursuing HYADES but not at anywhere near this price Yeah, same. If I were, theoretically, going to get a butty, I'd probably want a converted one, as Clypeus could be deconverted with minimal effort (given that the conversion is wooden and, at some point, will reach the end of its natural lifespan). Would be lovely to have a converted butty to live on and unconverted boat for...fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Camping boating in cross winds real nightmare. Once had the scouts on the towpath holding the fore end off above Shardlow as just couldn't get enough way on to stop being blown into the bank. for many years we had a low cratch which looked odd but the beams they put under Barton turn bridge the so called operation bridgeguard stopped a normal height board getting under. joe skinner said when he went to the Nottingham rally that they got people out of the public to get the fore end down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Not seen this ad before but maybe wrong!!! Alsager. https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/yarwoods-70-butty/621585 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 River Class 'Blue top' butty URE for sale. Resonable price assuming it's sound. https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/e-c-jones-sons-river-class-butty/611979 Anyone know what the motor boat is behind in the photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Bit more reasonable £££ boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, junior said: River Class 'Blue top' butty URE for sale. Resonable price assuming it's sound. https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/e-c-jones-sons-river-class-butty/611979 Anyone know what the motor boat is behind in the photos? Welcome back junior, long time no see! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted October 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 50 minutes ago, junior said: Anyone know what the motor boat is behind in the photos? I don't, but curious it also sports some blue tops. It always seems to me that the total number of blue tops in existence, (including the many fitted to boats never originally having them, and the many stacked in various yards), far exceeds the number that would have been required for the whole "River" fleet in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, junior said: River Class 'Blue top' butty URE for sale. Resonable price assuming it's sound. https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/e-c-jones-sons-river-class-butty/611979 Anyone know what the motor boat is behind in the photos? The motor is PELLEW, built by Brinklow Boat Services about 15 years ago as a Yarwood 'Admiral Class' remake but part converted - and powered by a correct period Parsons Merganser removed from the Nurser built pleasure boat TREES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, junior said: River Class 'Blue top' butty URE for sale. Resonable price assuming it's sound. I see it's been reduced by £2K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, koukouvagia said: I see it's been reduced by £2K. Last time it was advertised on Apollo Duck (15 July 2019) there was mention of 'poured concrete' in the bottom = concerning both for the condition of the bottom / footings and the damage that could be done removing the concrete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 20 hours ago, pete harrison said: Last time it was advertised on Apollo Duck (15 July 2019) there was mention of 'poured concrete' in the bottom = concerning both for the condition of the bottom / footings and the damage that could be done removing the concrete Is the latter a problem? The fact that the concrete is there means that anything that might be damaged removing it needs replacing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 A cement wash was used by Yarwoods and Pimblotts as a corrosion prevention layer inside the bows of short boats, and perhaps elsewhere, and I have seen similar washes on other wide oats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 hours ago, David Mack said: Is the latter a problem? The fact that the concrete is there means that anything that might be damaged removing it needs replacing anyway. Lots of older Dutch barges have poured concrete ballast when they were converted and this was common practice. Nowadays it’s a no no and surveyors tend to advise purchasers against going ahead. It is one of the reasons there is so much doubling. There is really no way of knowing how good the preparation was and also how alkaline the mix was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 8 hours ago, David Mack said: Is the latter a problem? The fact that the concrete is there means that anything that might be damaged removing it needs replacing anyway. Not really a problem if you can get the price reduced to balance up for a new bottom and footings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 A couple more on Apollo Duck GOSTY HILL @ £36000 https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/harris-brothers/622133 IBEX @ £47500 https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/fellows-morton-clayton-70-traditional/622118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Lewis Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 29/08/2019 at 07:23, Tim Lewis said: Tycho: https://m.apolloduck.com/boat/yarwoods-45-tug/473783?fbclid=IwAR0OeSdGm5BaNVWKD6Jl0Thi9JaP4weeWYsNnprwi-AXlrf8VSwB6y_rWHQ At Berkhamsted this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Tim Lewis said: At Berkhamsted this weekend Can't help but sing "Her name was Lola, she was a showgirlWith yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there" When I see that boat. Virtual B. Manillo. Edited October 31, 2019 by mark99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 The cutest of the cute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Wicked looking vessel.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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