CRT advice to moor using centre line.

[Tigerr]

I see a facebook post today from CRT, advising 'to always moor properly using the centre line'. 

I've never moored using the centre line, because it pulls the boat over when boats pass in shallow water. On the K&A mooring up with taut centre lines is going to lead to the boat rolling like a log. 

I've always understood that proper mooring is appropriate use of bow and stern, with springs to hold the boat secure and steady. 

Centre lines I thought were primarily boat handling aids, for lock landings etc. Not for mooring with. 

I think CRT are giving bad advice here, but perhaps I am wrong. 

[David Mack]

I would be interested to know how one can moor 'properly' using the centre line!

[PeterScott]

Delayed once by a sinking below one of the wide T&M locks: water from bottom paddles had rushed along the towingpath side, pushed centre-line-moored unattended  boat sideways, sufficient to tip over and sink.

[GUMPY]

Just shows how clueless Cart are 🤔

Breasts and Springs are the safest way to affix your boat to the bank. Centre ropes are for handling only.

 

[Alan de Enfield]

1 hour ago, Tigerr said:

I think CRT are giving bad advice here, but perhaps I am wrong. 

 

You do need to remember who is giving the advice, (they do have a history of poor advice).

[Liam]

Not all centre lines are fixed to the cabin top...

[Arthur Marshall]

2 hours ago, Tigerr said:

I see a facebook post today from CRT, advising 'to always moor properly using the centre line'. 

I've never moored using the centre line, because it pulls the boat over when boats pass in shallow water. On the K&A mooring up with taut centre lines is going to lead to the boat rolling like a log. 

I've always understood that proper mooring is appropriate use of bow and stern, with springs to hold the boat secure and steady. 

Centre lines I thought were primarily boat handling aids, for lock landings etc. Not for mooring with. 

I think CRT are giving bad advice here, but perhaps I am wrong. 

It's not on their FB page - where did you see it?

Also, what was the advice? I always use the centreline to hold the boat while sorting out the main ropes. If that was their advice, there's no problem, nor if it was to use a slack centre rope if the mooring loks a bit dodgy.

Edited May 13 by Arthur Marshall

[Tigerr]

51 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

It's not on their FB page - where did you see it?

Also, what was the advice? I always use the centreline to hold the boat while sorting out the main ropes. If that was their advice, there's no problem, nor if it was to use a slack centre rope if the mooring loks a bit dodgy.

Cant find the post now. It was nothing to do with 'while mooring', but just make sure you moor properly using the centre line. 

Might be its already been deleted as it was such tripe. 

[PeterScott]

37 minutes ago, Tigerr said:

.. it was such tripe. 

Long ago the works' canteen added tripe to the menu. I thought it inedible, but it might have been inefficient / insufficient cooking ...

[Arthur Marshall]

13 minutes ago, PeterScott said:

Long ago the works' canteen added tripe to the menu. I thought it inedible, but it might have been inefficient / insufficient cooking ...

I cooked it once just to see what it was like. The reek it made cooking it put me off and it went straight in the bin.

[Hudds Lad]

5 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

I cooked it once just to see what it was like. The reek it made cooking it put me off and it went straight in the bin.

Years ago there was a shop in Huddersfield called The Tripe Shop, just walking by and looking at the various piles of blobs, tubes and textured things on offer put me off it for life. 🤢

[haggis]

I was brought up on a farm and we often had tripe and onions. I loved it but I haven't seen it in a butchers for years.

I used to feed my dogs on raw tripe which I got from the slaughterhouse (still warm) and took home in big wine pails. I chopped it up and froze it. The dogs loved it and did well on it. 

 

[PeterScott]

[haggis]

That looks like a Street dog! Gail, I think.

[GUMPY]

3 hours ago, Liam said:

Not all centre lines are fixed to the cabin top...

Back end lines are a completely different animal🤔

[Liam]

I meant centre lines coming from above tunnel level which would tip the boat over...

My parents old boat used to have a centre T stud on the gunnel which was handy to take a turn around before tying off when waiting for locks.  Even with a slack line and a fast emptying lock never caused a problem of any tipping.

Alot of GRP and wooden topped boats have a centre line on the gunnel for obvious reasons.

[Alan de Enfield]

6 minutes ago, Liam said:

Alot of GRP and wooden topped boats have a centre line on the gunnel for obvious reasons.

 

 

Indeed, on my GRP cruiser my centre cleat is the one I use for my spring lines.

Get a good long, flat angle both forwards and sternwards.

 

But I've never seen centre cleats on a NB

 

 

 

[GUMPY]

32 minutes ago, Liam said:

meant centre lines coming from above tunnel level which would tip the boat over...

Slow Motion has a cleat on the gunwale, a rare thing for a narrowboat.

[dmr]

2 hours ago, haggis said:

I was brought up on a farm and we often had tripe and onions. I loved it but I haven't seen it in a butchers for years.

I used to feed my dogs on raw tripe which I got from the slaughterhouse (still warm) and took home in big wine pails. I chopped it up and froze it. The dogs loved it and did well on it. 

 

 

When Sophie Dog was a puppy we stopped for a pint on the way to dog training class. A bloke in the pub gave her a tripe stick. Within half an hour she starting doing the most evil dog farts that I have ever smelled and so got banned from the dog training class. 

[Jon57]

3 minutes ago, dmr said:

 

When Sophie Dog was a puppy we stopped for a pint on the way to dog training class. A bloke in the pub gave her a tripe stick. Within half an hour she starting doing the most evil dog farts that I have ever smelled and so got banned from the dog training class. 

Are you sure it was the tripe or the beer. 😁

[IanD]

5 minutes ago, dmr said:

 

When Sophie Dog was a puppy we stopped for a pint on the way to dog training class. A bloke in the pub gave her a tripe stick. Within half an hour she starting doing the most evil dog farts that I have ever smelled and so got banned from the dog training class. 

Blaming the dog, eh? Classic... 😉 

[Machpoint005]

Moor using the centre line?  I'd certainly find it difficult to moor without using the centre line, but once tied up properly, the centre line would be coiled up on the roof ready for use in the morning.  

 

[LadyG]

I often have the centreline attached to a pin, but slack, so if it comes in to operation, either the bow and stern pins have moved or the side wind has increased. Also if scrotes were to likely to interfere with mooring ropes, I think they are less likely to bother with three ropes.

Where I was moored the other day, the ground was so soft I had five pins out, and still had to hammer them in during the day due to widebeam trip boat. 

[bizzard]

3 hours ago, LadyG said:

I often have the centreline attached to a pin, but slack, so if it comes in to operation, either the bow and stern pins have moved or the side wind has increased. Also if scrotes were to likely to interfere with mooring ropes, I think they are less likely to bother with three ropes.

Where I was moored the other day, the ground was so soft I had five pins out, and still had to hammer them in during the day due to widebeam trip boat. 

If your worried about your boat being sent adrift while your out just fix a centre line out over the off side, opposite side with a heavy weight or anchor on it, then if it is set adrift it won't drift far, I doubt scrotes would notice it.

[wandering snail]

This from a CRT advice tweet yesterday: 'And when you moor up, please do so properly without using the centre line.'