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Alan de Enfield

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  1. I rest my case. Every NB I've insured with them has been between £120 & £150 seemingly irrespective of age, length or value. My Cruiser is with them and the cost is £250, but I have 2x 6-clinder engines and a much enlarged cruising area, and subsequently a much large area of insurance which includes much of the European canal system.
  2. I think that maybe you are looking at the wrong boats (or the wrong places), our cruiser has two bathrooms (en suite to the two cabins) one is a wet room containing a basin, shower and toilet, the other is a separate toilet / basin and shower room. Our master-cabin has a full size 'queen size' bed. wardrobes and dressing table (his & hers) each side of the bed. The galley has a 'double oven', grill, 4-ring hob, microwave, fridge and freezer. Blown hot air central heating in each cabin area (6 outlet vents) You could pick up something similar for ~ £40k Saloon / lounge Dining room (makes extra double bed if needed) Galley Master bedroom (separate shower room and separate toilet / basin) Forward bedroom (3 bunks) Part of shower room (with domestic Mira shower)
  3. So are 'good' narrowboats and a 'bottom end price' for a "Wide narrowboat" will start at £80k. You will get a very good GRP Cruiser for £30K + What sort of budget are you considering ? Just a word of advice (warning) If you buy a (say) £20k boat it will almost definitely require a lot of money spending on it in the first year or two. Buy the best that you can push your self to, but remember you will need to keep £5k in reserve for emergencies & running costs. A gear box can fail - cost £1000 An engine can fail, maybe repairable but replacement cost £5k - £10k Your boat will need painting every 5 years (maybe 10 if you are prepared to let it get really bad) - professional repaint cost £10k Overplating a 'thin' steel hull can cost £250+ per foot You can either maintain your boat and maintain its value, or do no maintenance and let its value steadily fall to zero (or less) Different people take different tacks.
  4. They do say they have done a lot of work to it and 'enlarged it'. Maybe the boat is under the shed ?
  5. More info : https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/we-could-now-lose-everything-4541363 A family living on a boat on the Harbourside in Bristol say they could be made homeless after being told to leave the vessel by the city council. Molly Petts and her partner Trevor Gray have been living on a boat moored on the Wapping Wharf side of the Harbourside for several years and, back in 2016, they bought a bigger boat in order to start a family. However, the couple is now having a dispute with the council over building works carried out to the new boat which the council says were not approved The boat, the council has said, is also sitting in the harbour under a leisure licence, not a residential licence.
  6. Maybe more people should see this - I'm 'pi$$ing in the wind every time I try and talk about the Marine 2050 Plan By 2025 we expect that: i. All vessels operating in UK waters are maximising the use of energy efficiency options. All new vessels being ordered for use in UK waters are being designed with zero emission propulsion capability. Zero emission commercial vessels are in operation in UK waters. ii. The UK is building clean maritime clusters focused on innovation and infrastructure associated with zero emission propulsion technologies, including bunkering of low or zero emission fuel. By 2035 we expect that: iii. The UK has built a number of clean maritime clusters. These combine infrastructure and innovation for the use of zero emission propulsion technologies. Low or zero emission marine fuel bunkering options are readily available across the UK. By 2050 No non-zero emission boats can be used in UK waters (coastal or inland) Inland waterways leisure craft are mentioned in the Governments document several times - one example : On a smaller scale than sector-wide targets, there are certain domestic policies which encourage the uptake of zero emission shipping, most notably the Renewable Transport Fuel Obligation (RTFO). As well as applying to the road sector (on a mandatory basis) and aviation sector (on an optional basis), the RTFO currently applies to fuel suppliers for the non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) sectors, the definition of which includes inland shipping and recreational craft that do not normally operate at sea.
  7. You will have considerably less space in a 57' narrowboat than you have in the ketch. In a 12' 6" beam boat (my Cruiser is 14') your spaces (Galley, saloon, etc) can not only be 'lengthwise' but 'widthwise' as well so you can have a (say) 10'x 10' saloon. In a narrowboat a typical saloon will be (possibly) 10' x 6'. We have, for example the galley 6' x 6' on the Port side and a 6' x 6' Dining area on the Stbd side with a 'walkway' running to the forward cabin., so you are only taking 6' of the length of the boat, where in a NB you would be taking 12 foot of the length and would not be able to utilise the 6 foot width due to needing to walk from back to front. I would strongly suggest (if you haven't already, hire a NB for a week or two (in the Winter) so you can see how confining the space is compared to a wide yacht. Everything has to be in a straight line - look at some boat schematic layouts on brokers details 4 foot for the stern 6 foot for the engine 10 foot for bed / wardrobes 4-6 foot for heads / shower 4-6 foot for galley 12 foot for saloon 10 foot for bow / front deck that is 54 feet - all just 6 feet wide. You will also need some bulkheads between 'rooms'. The majority of NB's these days are built to 6' 10" beam, so you will easily lose 4 or 5 inches each side with insulation, wall linings and walls. I do understand the living space on a yacht as my other boat is a 38' x 23' Blue Water cruising catamaran based in Plymouth. Good luck.
  8. Was that a 'fat' narrrowboat, or a wide beam 'boat' (Dutch barge, GRP cruiser etc etc) The problem with just saying 'widebeam' is that it covers pretty much every type of boat except a 'narrow boat'. Under that definition, my 23 foot wide Catamaran would be a 'widebeam'. As you may have gathered whilst a 'narrowboat' is a specific type of boat under 7' 6" wide, a 'widebeam' can be anything over 7' 6" wide, You have already identified one 'type' (Dutch Barge) but there are many others available. This was us in a previous 'widebeam' heading up the West Coast from Wales : Troon Rothsey (washing day) Rhu (in the tender heading back to the boat)
  9. On the Scottish canals there is absolutely no need to get a cramped sewer tube (AKA Narrowboat) Narrowboats are simply a money saving development (its cheaper to dig a narrow ditch than a wide ditch) and no one in the right mind would build a narrowboat system - it is a peculiar English thing - nowhere else in the world would build boats so long and thin. The Scottish canals are 'proper' wide waterways designed for proper sized boats so why use something not designed for the waterway you will be using. If you are plannning to be liveaboards then you want to maximise the space - any boat is going to be a huge 'step-down' from even a flat. Just as an indication of the difference in (not only width) but 'volume' here is a picture of our widebeam cruiser moored alongside a 'narrowboat' cruiser. Our 'fat boat is 36 feet long and the 'narrowboat' is 33 feet long. GRP Cruisers can be used all year around , many are not designed for 'Winter' use, but ours has been lined with reflective 'giant' bubblewrap which keeps her snuggly We do not have a dirty coal fire (that narrowboats have) instead we have a thermostatically controlled diesel fired heater which is just the same as a house, Set the temperature you want on the thermostat and it stays at that temperature all year - just like you house central heating.
  10. "Tunnel Keeper" now becomes "Volunteer door and fan operative" The original job specification would have included 'working hours', if C&RT continue to run the tunnel on 'reduced hours' then the original job specification become null & void, and a new "Part Time Role" job specification will be needed.
  11. It is easier to replace a bit of damaged wood than straighten out bent & buckled steel plates.
  12. It was as a result of the OP saying that a 2013 boat did not have a HIN number (which unless it was a total DIY build including welding up the hull) it must have)
  13. Indeed - there is now no Annexe III, even an empty shell must be provided with full RCD documentation as if it was a completed boat.
  14. Tony, you have suggested and discussed far more than necessary - you cannot help those who will not help themselves. How many times do you (we) try and 'problem solve' by internet and such words as "the engine smokes" or "the batteries are flat" is all there is to go on. When asked for photographs or more detailed information (gear box type, engine type, cooling type etc etc) it is not forthcoming. I don't think I could ever have the patience that you show in the face of such a lack of information despite repeated requests. Keep up the good work.
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  16. Just remember that at 12v the batteries are quite discharged (about 60% discharged). Fully charged 12v batteries should read 12.7v - 12.8 volts after they have been stood for a couple of hours with no input and no output. If you have the batteries 'on charge' the reading can be anything up to 14.6 volts. 12v is almost 'flat'.
  17. That takes me back - I had one of those in my Static caravan at the gliding club, must be 45+ years ago.
  18. He says they are on top of the Bimini so the heat shouldn't be so much of a problem, but it they have been flexing then it will do them no good. Then you have bought into the hype and have done well to get 18 months out of them. I think the 'forum recommendations' is almost unanimously DONT BUY FLEXIBLE PANELS as you will be replacing them a year or two later. "Buy the right products and buy once"
  19. This is 'helpful' (if not meaningless) Power consumption on 12 volts is a tiny 0.38 to 0.64 amps per hour.
  20. Agree - but C&RT should find some angle to get support - how about adopt / sponsor a lock ? You used to need a licence to use your bike on the towpath - but not now. Use of the towpath by walkers etc is 'permissive' (the vast majority are not Public Footpaths), is there a way to charge for access. Can a workboat be sponsored and named to the sponsor ? Sometimes we need to think outside the box. You can go to Africa and watch Lions etc free, but people will still sponsor a 'Lion' and pay £3 per month, or Sponsor a 'Blind' dog etc etc Studies have shown that once a direct debit is set up people rarely if ever will cancel one for £3 or less so if you can get a 'nominal sum' DD set up then there is a fair chance of keeping it in perpetuity.
  21. I have a 12v fridge and a 220v Freezer powered via an inverter. The fridge uses ~30Ah per day The freezer uses ~40Ah per day (but generally freezers 'take; a bit more than fridges anyway).
  22. I agree, and I have not had my last 17 boats surveyed, and so far, not 'caught a cold'. However to someone new to boats and boating with (possibly) no idea what to look for I'd always suggest, as a minimum, a Hull-survey. Particularly in the case of a boat which does not appear to comply with Boat building legislation, and, is said to be OK, but subsequently found not to be. The broker / seller can say pretty much anything as with buying from an individual there is no legal protection and it really is a case of Caveat Emptor. Alarm bells would ring, and as a 'newbie' I'd employ a surveyor, or walk quickly away from the sale.
  23. A good comparison, but I'd suggest that the NT are more successful in both raising funds (having 'Members' helps) and, maintaining their assets. It is interesting to look at the NT's sources of income - something C&RT could learn from. The NT's income from memberships (is £243m against a cost of raising that sum of £57m) is almost the same as C&RT's total income, add in the 'legacies' (£66m) and the sale of 'renewable energy' (£72m) and their income is not reliant on the (£7m) Government grants (C&RT = £50m) If C&RT could make the waterways 'appealing' (maybe they are trying via their 'Better by Water' advertising) then I'm sure they could actually achieve, in part, what the NT do.
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