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  1. That's not what your post suggested, talking about having paid your dues meaning that CRT should cut the grass for you, and that somehow this wouldn't mean less money for vital maintenance like locks... 😉 IIRC it was a public statement by CART that they'd reduced grass cutting to save £3M for exactly this purpose. All the other stuff about inefficient use of resources may well be true (and if it is, should be sorted out) but it's a diversion from these facts... 🙂 The new/blue/headroom/whatever signs got up people's noses -- well, boater's noses -- because they didn't see the point of them. And indeed for boaters there wasn't one. There are ones near me saying things like "You have now completed 275m of the xxx trail" which annoy me every single time I see them. But CART have to gussy up the canals and make them more safe and attractive to non-boaters because that's what the government-set KPIs say they have to do, not keep 35000 boaters happy, and all the stuff like blue/warning signs and titivating and painting and better towpaths for cyclists is driven by this. It's not for boaters who use the canals all the time, it's for casual non-boaters who use them occasionally as a linear green space. That's the funding-driven reality of the canals today. What else are CART supposed to do? I completely understand why many boaters hate all this, but they also seem completely unwilling to even try and understand *why* CART are doing this -- even when it's pointed out to them ad nauseam... 😞
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  3. Perhaps instead of quoting generic advice you should think about the problem and also go and read up what Kobra/Fortress actually recommend for applications like this, like I did? A steel narrowboat is typically much heavier compared to the chain/anchor than a seagoing boat because it doesn't have to hold in storms or gales at sea -- which is why a typical narrowboat doesn't have a 40kg Kobra anchor and 15mm chain, which is what such a long (60'?) and heavy (18t?) sea-going boat would typically use going by the recommendations. This means that on a seagoing boat a long heavy chain is indeed the right solution because it forms a catenary as it tightens, and the chain weight gradually slows the boat down before it pulls taut -- which is why this is what the usual manuals (and you, and others) recommend, because it's the right solution. The situation is different on a narrowboat with a relatively smaller/lighter anchor and chain and a long heavy steel hull -- the chain weight isn't enough to slow it down gradually (much lighter compared to hull mass) so it will pull almost taut with the boat still moving, at which point there is no stretchy rope to absorb the shock, and either the anchor will drag/pull out or something will break as the tension rises rapidly. For this case they recommend a shorter length of chain -- 20% of total length is enough to keep the anchor set -- and a longer length of nylon rope (80%) which stretches to prevent any sudden shock. I'll see if I can find the reference to this, but you could also do what I did and do some calculations about what happens in the two cases -- which did indeed show that a long heavy chain (and big anchor) is right for a typical lumpy water boat, but a shorter lighter chain and long nylon rope is right for a narrowboat. In other words, you can't extrapolate from any number of coastal boaters because the situation is not the same... 🙂
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  6. Sorry but it's not ridiculous -- no matter how much you've paid to CART over the years they have a fixed (and too small...) pot of money to spend each year, and just like a cash-strapped household they have to choose what to spend it on. If they spend £3M on grass cutting that's £3M less available to spend on things like new lock gates, failures of which are causing more and more stoppages and leading to more and more complaints from boaters. Which is why they've cut back on grass cutting... 😉 If you don't understand this simple and obvious fact about how budgets work, you're right and there is no point continuing the conversation.
  7. Very similar to mine, for the same reasons... 😉 Actually some of the "advanced anchor" manufacturers (e.g. Kobra, Fortress) don't recommend huge lengths of chain for applications like this, they say that more than 20% or so of the total length doesn't make much difference -- and a longer length of rope (especially if it's stretchy like nylon) gives more "spring" for the case where you're trying to bring a heavy moving narrowboat to a halt on a river, which decreases the chance of it pulling out or breaking something. For anchor use at sea (which is what most articles and documentation are all about) a longer chain is the best solution, but the Trent/Soar are not the sea... 😉
  8. I agree with most of what Alan said, though IMHO some of it is overkill for the emergency cases (e.g. engine failure on a river) likely to be needed in a narrowboat (but not for a lumpy water boat or mooring in tideways or at sea in a gale, like Alan's boat). I have a 60' narrowboat, with a 10kg Kobra anchor, 5m of 8mm chain (recommended length), and 25m of 14mm anchorplait rope -- total cost was about £500 new. Haven't needed to use it yet, but would be happy to do so on the Trent or Soar or similar rivers. It's *much* easier to deploy than a 20kg/25kg Danforth and more effective, though it's a bit more expensive -- however as Alan says, when you need an anchor in an emergency you really do want it to work first time, and you need it to be deployable by whoever gets the short straw -- which might well be someone unable to deal with hoisting a 25kg anchor over a gunwale.
  9. Yes we do, if only the government spent the money on that instead of spaffing it up the wall on their pet projects and Tory Crony Enrichment schemes... 😞 There are plenty of redistributive ways the government could raise lots of money form the well-off if only they wanted to -- non-doms, tax evasion, capital gains, multiple homes, raising tax thresholds and increasing top tax rate to 50%, VAT on private school fees, council tax rebanding -- and I'm sure Labour will do some of them when they get in, because the Tories sure haven't in 14 years. If a few Tory-funding millionaires/billionaires move to Dubai as a result -- good, you obviously didn't mean all that patriotic "We support the UK" crap, glad to be rid of you -- the ones who don't leave (the *real* patriots) will pay more.
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  12. There's a lot of it around -- improper bacon, not moral fibre -- while election campaigning is going on, the skies are full of it... 😉
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  14. I was referring to the more skilled maintenance tasks like repairing/replacing locks gates/paddles, not vegetation/grass cutting -- which CART have already cut back on to save money. Things like grass cutting/strimming are relatively low-paid unskilled jobs for CART just like they are for everyone else, which is why people don't want to do it. It's also a tiny part of CART's costs, most of which goes on more engineering-based works as far as I can see. But surely other users should be *more* happy, since CART prioritise non-boater users of the canals -- new towpaths (yes I know these are mostly paid for by councils), blue signs, encouraging cyclists/canoeists/fishermen... 😉 /s
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