CRT advice to moor using centre line.

[Peugeot 106]

18 hours ago, PeterScott said:

Lovely. A dead ringer for my departed “Tip” with whom I had many an adventure! Brings back memories of his silky ears and ginormous ruff

[Arthur Marshall]

1 hour ago, wandering snail said:

This from a CRT advice tweet yesterday: 'And when you moor up, please do so properly without using the centre line.'

So the whole thread started from misreading a quote from CRT...

[Alan de Enfield]

17 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

So the whole thread started from misreading a quote from CRT...

 

Or C&RT corrected / replaced the original tweet ?

[Arthur Marshall]

14 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Or C&RT corrected / replaced the original tweet ?

Who can say, as the original post was never quoted or linked? Most likely a misreading.

[PeterScott]

1 hour ago, Arthur Marshall said:

...the whole thread started from misreading a quote from CRT...

.

 

.. and inexorably led to a good story about tripe ...

 

 

 

17 hours ago, dmr said:

When Sophie Dog was a puppy we stopped for a pint on the way to dog training class. A bloke in the pub gave her a tripe stick. Within half an hour she starting doing the most evil dog farts that I have ever smelled and so got banned from the dog training class. 

17 hours ago, IanD said:

Blaming the dog, eh? Classic... 😉 

 

Nothing on the forum is wasted ...

[MtB]

1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Or C&RT corrected / replaced the original tweet ?

 

Can you tweet on FaceBook then?

 

(Where the original post was, according to the OP.)

 

[Alan de Enfield]

48 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

Can you tweet on FaceBook then?

 

(Where the original post was, according to the OP.)

 

 

 

I've no idea, are facebooker not twatters ?

[MtB]

20 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

I've no idea, are facebooker not twatters ?

 

 

Rejecting FaceBook and Twitter is a bit like blaming the Royal Mail when you receive a letter you don't like. 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2024 by MtB
Finesse it

[Arthur Marshall]

4 hours ago, MtB said:

 

 

Rejecting FaceBook and Twitter is a bit like condemning the Royal Mail because you received a letter you didn't like. 

 

 

Neither are as useful as they were, but they have their place and Facebook certainly replaced most forums, at least for a while. Not used so much now for general chat and keeping up with friends as it's drowning in pointless ads and scams, but there's still a lot of use in it. Groups have much the same function as forums.

Things move on, same as the forum did from newsgroups.

[MrsM]

11 hours ago, PeterScott said:

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.. and inexorably led to a good story about tripe ...

 

 

 

 

Nothing on the forum is wasted ...

I do enjoy a good meandering thread - you never quite know where it will take you 😄

[Alan de Enfield]

11 hours ago, PeterScott said:

.. and inexorably led to a good story about tripe ...

 

 

I remember my mother putting a bowl of onions on top of the television, on being asked why she simply said "its to go with all the tripe thats on there".

[blackrose]

On 13/05/2024 at 12:32, Liam said:

Not all centre lines are fixed to the cabin top...

 

Not all centre lines are tied tight when used for mooring and contrary to popular belief not all boats will roll if the centre line did have to hold the boat. Mine won't anyway.

 

I've often used a loose centre line for mooring. It doesn't do anything apart from act as an insurance policy should the bow or stern line come adrift or become untied by some scroat in the middle of the night. I tie mine back to the centre ring on the roof. That won't stop someone cutting the rope with a knife of course but there are other methods of mooring if one's worried about that.

 

Anyway, as long as you moor using a loose centre rope there's no problem and no need for any shocked overreaction from other boaters.

Edited May 14, 2024 by blackrose

[Alan de Enfield]

Many, when mooring, pull their mooring lines tight, as tight as possible, (I've even seen ratchet straps used) thinking that that is the way to do it. Unfortunately, unless they are educated by someone who knows how to moor properly they are just creating problems.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

4 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Many, when mooring, pull their mooring lines tight, as tight as possible, (I've even seen ratchet straps used) thinking that that is the way to do it. Unfortunately, unless they are educated by someone who knows how to moor properly they are just creating problems.

On rivers maybe with big changing levels I can understand but on a canal with a reliable water level it’d be ok, wouldn’t it?

I tend to see a lot of off side linear moorers tied up using ratchet straps and they don’t tend to move much when I speed on past.

[Alan de Enfield]

11 minutes ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:

I tend to see a lot of off side linear moorers tied up using ratchet straps and they don’t tend to move much when I speed on past.

 

Well they wouldn't would they.

 

Just cruising at 3mph when you look ahead you can see the water level dropping by (probably) more than a foot.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Just cruising at 3mph when you look ahead you can see the water level dropping by (probably) more than a foot.

at that point it’s probably best to ease off a bit when passing boats,

 

[TheBiscuits]

On 14/05/2024 at 13:50, Alan de Enfield said:

I've no idea, are facebooker not twatters ?

 

Close, but three too many letters ...

[Creaking Gate]

So basically, after accusing CRT of poor advice, and several subsequent posts highlighting the poor advice. Turns out the post was not read properly.... and the advice was good. There is lesson in that for several people here.  

 

Tripe is horrible.  It even looks horrible. 

[IanD]

14 minutes ago, Creaking Gate said:

So basically, after accusing CRT of poor advice, and several subsequent posts highlighting the poor advice. Turns out the post was not read properly.... and the advice was good. There is lesson in that for several people here.  

 

Tripe is horrible.  It even looks horrible. 

Some people grab any opportunity to lambast CART, whether based on fact on not...

[Arthur Marshall]

1 hour ago, Creaking Gate said:

So basically, after accusing CRT of poor advice, and several subsequent posts highlighting the poor advice. Turns out the post was not read properly.... and the advice was good. There is lesson in that for several people here.  

 

Tripe is horrible.  It even looks horrible. 

We don't really know, as usual. There's no trace of such a CRT post on Facebook, and the OP couldn't find it when going back to look, whuch is nothing unusual for FB, which deletes stuff on your feed  at random. It may even have been a fake account.

Certainly the later published advice was fine, but it may well have been a badly edited original that Tigerr saw and that got deleted. It just goes to demonstrate Sturgeon's Law, that 90% of everything is crap, especially on the internet, certainly on FB and probably on here...

[Ewan123]

On 13/05/2024 at 10:51, PeterScott said:

Delayed once by a sinking below one of the wide T&M locks: water from bottom paddles had rushed along the towingpath side, pushed centre-line-moored unattended  boat sideways, sufficient to tip over and sink.

I got closer to doing that than I'd have liked with our boat on the landing below Denham Deep lock. Fortunately I was with the boat/it was only loosely tied up, and I could signal to my wife to close the paddles.

[LadyG]

Well. just a few weeks ago I had a bit of a fright when using the centreline, as you do...

I was heading upstream, river looked quiet enough, I came up to the lock landing and stepped on to the pontoon with the centreline,  by the time I had tied the centreline  the river had pulled the bow out,  I envisaged the boat tipping over or having to set it free.....  and of course access to the stern was not easy!

I do use the centreline for handling, bow and stern lines to moor, but I leave the centreline with a foot of slack,  if it tightens up, or slackens, I can tell that we have moved. I would not leave the boat on centreline unless on board. 

 

 

 

[LadyG]

2 hours ago, Ewan123 said:

I got closer to doing that than I'd have liked with our boat on the landing below Denham Deep lock. Fortunately I was with the boat/it was only loosely tied up, and I could signal to my wife to close the paddles.

I  often tie the bow rope on the lock landing and have the centreline as a backup, so the boat can't move much while I set up the lock.

[LucyL]

Hi 

 

Iam new to boating 10 months in and have to  be away from the boat overnight often. I do tie a loose centre line incase she comes adrift. But I've noticed that is different advice given depending who gives it, iam not entirely sure which is the safest method for the boat when left unattended on the canal?

[Jen-in-Wellies]

Welcome to the forum. Personally, I wouldn't bother with a centre line in that situation. I would moor somewhere like on armco with goat chains, rather than pins if leaving the boat for a day, or two. Especially if the ground is wet, as mooring pins can pull out of soft ground with the action of passing boats. Spring lines are your friends in that sort of situation, if armco isn't available. If the pins do pull out, then another pin to the centre line is 'tbtoing to last long.