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This is a very large boat for the canals and I suggest it won’t be pleasant to actually cruise on it, except for those few large commercial waterways such as the A&C. People who buy these enormous widebeams tend not to move much, which always begs the question to me “why bother with all the hassles of being on a boat when you can’t enjoy the advantages?”. You see people driving huge widebeams looking really nervous and stressed, which is surely not the aim! Nearly all the nicer bits of canal are off limits time you. Have you ever driven a boat that size on a just-big-enough waterway? If not I suggest you have a go first, before spending lots of money.

Seen elsewhere ...

The UK is not that bad - here are a couple of Liveaboards, well within your budget and ideal for a bit of coastal hopping, you could take a couple of years going around the coast in a luxury (heated and insulated) comfortable boat. Proper boats : https://www.findafishingboat.com/steel-passagemaker/ad-55598 I've been mulling over this one for some time, but I've already got two boats. £45,000 or offers (and its in Cork !!!) or this one : https://www.findafishingboat.com/converted-danish-trawler/ad-107405 In North Wales and at £30,000 plenty of money left. 'Modernisation' needed to suit your taste but money left in the budget.

Michael McIntyre at his best.

Did a spot of Kayak cleaning up after the good folk of Retford this evening, every little helps.. Mostly crisp packets left by the little darlings fishing/smoking weed upstream at Whitsunday lock. It would be good to think they'll grow out of it and learn to appreciate their surroundings but unfortunately as the saying goes, you can't educate pork. Or shit. The crap was caught in huge blooms of gently fizzing blanket weed, even the kayak was a struggle!

I wouldnt say they lost control, I think it is more...lost the goodwill of the British public with their rabid press releases,.lies and defence of Cummings.

Bit strong? 6%? That's a session beer! 😃

Not the total picture but the government lost control the moment they ignored the Cummings incident.

I'd say that's about perfect for the Northern canal network if you want a widebeam. Maybe a couple of feet shorter if you don't like getting wet descending leaky locks

I agree. You won't have much fun on a 70 x 12ft boat unless you're on some of the bigger rivers. It's too big for the southern broadbeam canals. My boat is 57 X 12ft and it's manageable because it's relatively short and turns very easily

In reality its not a sensible size and unnecessarily big unless you have eighteen children?

Hope you got there OK - I think 19 boats making that trip today. We took the quieter route, down to Limehouse... https://scholargypsy.org.uk/2020/06/15/brentford-to-limehouse/

When are they delivering the other end of it?

Yea, but these dont do 0-60 in 4 seconds.

The canal company considered the whole water space to be Leeds basin, as shown in the plan below. I have also added a plan of the original lock house at Oddys.

My Skoda Yeti has been on charge now for over 2 months and has only used about 4 litres of diesel in that time, its proving really economical Fuel consumption over time will halve on Wednesday when we go shopping again, I will have to unplug it first.

Only those where Mrs 1st Ade treats "We need to be away by ten at the latest" as "We don't need to be away until ten"

As a teenager I broke up several wooden boats so that their bottoms could be used for the walls of buildings at The Black Country Museum. Perhaps I am fortunate in not being sentimental about narrow boats and I have no problem with their 'circle of life'. I like the idea of a boat that is life expired donating its parts to keep others going (as with human organ donation), but I am not meaning parts being built into modern boats to give them some perceived credibility or added value. Every boat can be rebuilt and rebuilt again, but as you say the costs can be prohibitive - and in my opinion this has been the position with wooden narrow boats for a long time, let alone finding people with the skills to maintain / rebuild them properly. Like many owners I am spending far more on my boat restoration than its end value will be, but because my boat is steel hulled it just feels like a better bet long term (but probably isn't). Of course it is a great shame when any boat is broken up, but this is a part of every boats history whether today, next year or any time in the future. Things seem to have got a lot more sentimental since these boats have become pre-fixed 'historic' - but lets hope that DANE's future can be secured

You can go in 20 shops a day, but you cant sleep in your boat, if you own a house. Nonsense. Your child can go to the zoo to those 20 shops and visit their grandparents, but cant go to school. Nonsense If you are part of the inner sanctum you can leave london with your covid ridden Spouse, go and live in a house built with no planning permission , and not paying council tax, and visit beauty spots at will. As well as driving with dodgy eyesight. Nonsense No wonder people just do what they like.

View from Google Maps showing the railway bridge over the former canal link to the Aire, and the modern infill wall below it. And the River end of the link, seen from the north bank of the river, Candle House and the Hilton Hotel visible in the background.

That's the one. And I upgraded the ad too. I sent out quite a few messages and I can see most have been read but not many replies. I've somebody coming to look on Wednesday afternoon so fingers crossed.

Right, the important info. One can gone. It's a cross between a wheat beer and an IPA. I guess the word 'hazy' in the wording on the can gives it away. Really fruity - mainly grapefruit but not too bitter (as in grapefruit bitter). Tastes really nice with the blend of fruit and hops. Get through half a dozen of these and I wont need a wee dram before bed. Nice. Buy some!😃

This thread has turned into several different topics, so I am not going to respond to anything else unless it is directly related to this threads title 'historic boats for sale online'. All of these other topics are interesting and I am happy to contribute to them - but they need to be established in their own threads

Many, many years ago I was taught that if you wanted to improve the all-round performance of a car, you should improve the brakes first. They use those split trailers for wind turbine blades too.

Yes I'll take a pic of it next time I go, is still together just. My biggest issue is wooden boats are now getting less and less, more so in good condition. I understand that its was normal and even now normal to be done but if every wooden boat was destroyed for there engine when there 25year so life was up we would have none left Dane is one of only a hand full left and at that the only one as she is e.g. the bow how claytons did it and her original engine thats been there from day 1 of being a motor, there are not many boats like that, yes boats have been reunited with there engines. As a boat lover I would rather a boat sold a bit cheap knowing it was going to be saved and kept good and loved than just trying to make an extra buck or 2. But that's just me. Its like having a very old car or house and stripping for bits and just destroyed when it can be saved, I also realise skills are getting harder but wooden boats have just as much right to be saved as steel and in some ways ive seen very poor steel boats saved because there steel (also scrapped) and know 1 man's scrap is another man's gold. No the Dock is now done very much as a setup than used. Although they have lifted boats out not that long ago for display

Woolwich is a reference to where it was built = Harland and Wolff Ltd., North Woolwich, London. Small is a reference to the depth of the hull from gunwale to bottom of the bottom = 4'2'' for VELA (medium = 4'6'' and large = 4'9''). butty refers to a boat that is unpowered but used in tow behind another boat, more commonly referred to as such when towed by a motor narrow boat. Please do not be intimidated by the knowledge on here and keep asking questions, but it might be better to start a new subject (thread) specific to VELA.

Or I could keep a 100+ boat going, there is the emotional attachment but I can see over that in that the boat is only worth the engine, i would rather sell a boat to someone who is going to save her than just strip for parts. Yes I can see dane being stripped for her bolly but I'm not going to be the one to destroy a bit of history for an engine. If I could get a bolly at a reasonable price not over the top price coz its a bolly I would consider putting it in towy but at the same time the national has been in her longer than the bolly was and has now been in near on 50 years making it part of towy. Yes I would happly sell the national back to the owner of original boat but I'm not going to be left out of pocket or just a random engine put in her so someone can get there engine back (unless forced due to major brakedown would happly get a k1 or something or jp2 as a replacement) hence I wanted to look at dane but for a price to keep her as is what I'm prepared to pay given the work needed wouldnt be accepted. Its the same as i don't agree with butties being cut in half to sell as 2 motors to make some cash and in the process destroying history.