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As there are often threads berating CRT for not doing things boaters think they should be doing I thought I would redress the balance. We used to boat on the Trent and Mersey a lot, particularly the North bit and I was impressed with the off side tree cutting they did which greatly improved the boaters line of sight and reduced the close encounters with overhanging trees. We have been on the shroppie for the last week and what a difference in woodseaves cutting! They are not quite finished yet but the difference is amazing. You no longer boat through there thinking that one of the overhanging trees which cut a lot of light would come down on top of you. Well done CRT! Haggis

Sounds like you were hoping for a reply that says they can't charge you, and you aren't happy with responses that say they can.

Liverpool Boats went bust because of Brexit and don't let the others flounder around giving you other excuses.

The problem has changed. The initial one was that it went click but didn't light. Now it lights but won't stay lit. The next stage is obvious. The burners will stay lit but the kettle will never boil.

Where ever the end is its over thur init :):) Thanks guys, if its a month late or soi am not bothered as it will be launched this summer. Got mooring and company to drop it in so thats all planned.

Its been a naff week or so here on and off the boat. Myself had serious toothache and had it ripped out and still suffering a week after. Off a few days last week with it and as it was nice annoyed me as i couldnt concentrate to do work on the boat. Feel a bit better today and back to work this morning . What has been done over the last few weeks, well got the engine fitted and working, but i bought remote to short by a foot so waste of £40 , what a plonker, the steering cable is good as i had to soak it in air tool oil to loosen it up. well fine again. when i could was a cock up with the canopy patterns. I first used thick 800grm polythene sheet for the pattern material, as seen on the trailer, for that a it was ok but on the boat, not so good as to stiff so i got some 350grm, good thickness but it stretches to much easily. So i have ordered some proper pattern material, Fibretex and all the Lift The Dot fittings. Well think i have . Also some more basting tape as near ran out faffing with it. What else, oh yes and i think i will be getting more zips to remove all the sides so then i can have just the top section inplace if we want. Still on the canopy i mentioned that the rear section i wanted to be fixed to a vertical surface, and if you look back it was at around 45 deg. Now it is 90 deg after i laminated inplace the sections i made a few week back. Filled the ends with a filler i made from chopped up CSM and poly resin. Just mix the resin as normal and then add the CSM cuttings and mix in, it will show how fast the binder breaks down. So just slap it in the hole let set then sand back. In above pic you can see i filled it with expanding foam to get a back to fill to. Now for now that is that untill the Fibretex arrives, tomorrow i hope form what they charge for postage., dam shocking. One job i just could not decide on was what to do with he hatch opening. This weekend i decided to just try this idea instead of trimming it with hardwood. One thing i did wrong is forget to wet the inside of the tunnels that i made from polythene and masking tape to help it set, not easy though if i did to get water to stay on polythene. But it worked out just about as in the end i cut a few slashes in the polythene to let air get in. I need to trim it more as just did it tonight when i got home to see if it had all set. few large air pockets but no problem, this is with filling to much and not dampening the `mould` Fill with expanding foam. not to much as you can see i got carried away. Trimmed back a little, need to do a lot more as the hatch bolt need access points and then laminating up. So plan is to get the canopy made and get the boat sanded and painted is the priority along with fitting the linings and upholstery. If all that is done with a few other little bits like outboard mount and this and that it will be launched May 18th..............dont hold your breath. Captain Faffer :):)

Also they have done the run into nantwich, a big difference

Devices that only work for some people and not others are called Eco devices, as in EcoF**s. Perhaps you have an EcoKnob. Edit: This does not apply to everything. For example an Economist is a person whose utterances do not work for anybody.

Who actually gives a flying #### You moor, you pay the pittance of the fee that is asked and you get on with life. I hope the OP is not as boring in real life as he appears to be from this thread. Its well chuffing dull.

As far as I'm concerned nothing, absolutely nothing, could make it a less interesting question. It began as a profoundly un-interesting question and wading through 6 pages of posts has not improved it.

But he did point out another clause covered it. Incidentally would you be so kind as to answer the question I asked yesterday? Are you as nit picking about the law in all parts of your life or just as it applies to your boating?

Im not interested in the effect of a tea towel on keeping things up. What goes on between yourself and a tea towel is down to you. ( mind you i think here in victoria it is now legal to marry white goods, certainly many locals are married to their fridges) i am shocked given your progressive attitude to some matters that you dismiss alternative therapies so readily. You ignore the offer of life coaching without consideration , moving immediately to believing that there must be some archaic mechanical defect. This is so typical of the narrowthinkibgmoneygrabbinghouseowningbabybooming generation. Accept the dominant paradym and embrace the future. I have arranged a friend who is a sound therapist to fengchung your boat. Because their tortoise has daylight sensitivity they can onlywork between 0200am and 0600am. they will be around shortly to play mood sounds to your igniter. Expect sounds appropriate to rebirthing and explosions.

leeco, may I offer a few observations based on our own ongoing research? I'm assuming, since you've mentioned the Leeds & Liverpool, that your folks are looking at the Northern wide-beam canals, not those in the South. If correct: A 60' x 12' boat will confine your parents to cruising either East or West of the Pennines. East provides more miles of waterways. A 60' x 12' boat is the minimum size they can buy without paying 20% VAT. I agree with Dr Bob regarding buying a fitted out pre-owned boat first and hopefully the previous owners will have ironed out most of the glitches. Even if your parents have some experience on hire boats, living on board is definitely different and the learning curve involved with taking on a sailaway would be pretty steep. I'd even go as far as to suggest a slightly different course, i.e. of putting in storage whatever they think they'd need on a wide beam, and buying a narrowboat. Use it and cruise it for a year, learn the maintenance, talk to wide-beamers and everyone else and listen, listen, listen. For the record, we have a 57' narrowboat near Braunston which we live on and cruise for three to five months a year. Like your parents, though, we're selling the house and looking for a wide-beam. Having the narrowboat to live on while we look, gives us the luxury of time. Good luck to them, and patience!

When I read the thread title, I immediately thought of the solar controller. I had problems with interference on my campervan. I never managed to cure it, just had to make do without the ancillary speakers. Perhaps you can check it by disconnecting the controller from the batteries. Do it when it's dark or cover the panels. The controller won't like being connected to the panels alone.

It certainly sounds like a ground loop to me.

The end is nigh?

Hope all goes well for May 18th, all of a sudden there is a lot of light at the end of the tunnel. Well done Wayne, the end is in sight ?

Buddy autocorrect, mangling my words again ?

A but more traditional decoration by Dave

Just the roll of the ship? It felt like a roll of Lino!

...so, any more thoughts. How would capacitance affect a dc circuit. My only experience is with them as LC circuits in AC radio matching circuits. No, it certainly isnt to do with wind. How did you know she is lovely? I smell a rat duck.

I don't know about "well chuffing dull" - any thread that gives "zygote" an airing must have some value, even if only for using such a great Scrabble word?

My concerns, in order are: 1. guarding against crushing between the boat and hard stuff. Even an arm over the side whilst mooring has to be guarded against. Also in this category is heads on bridges etc. Also gate arms. 2. guarding against falling in in dangerous areas eg near gate paddles. What could you do if somebody was sucked into a paddle hole in a gate apart from wait for the lock to fill? Simply falling in otherwise peaceful waters (away from the prop) bothers me far less. Two of my three children and myself fell in at various times without any great dramas, on canals, without life jackets/aids. On rivers I would have been much more concerned.

And their home market weberspachers seem to be very reliable, but ours aren't, Is it because they lost the wars.

Liverpool boats have been a topic of discussion on this forum for many years. Alan, the owner, has also previously visited the forum, around the time they voluntarily liquidated the company and has replied to postings. Try a search and you will find the threads.

When I was first learning to sail a dinghy, auto inflate was still in the future. So you wore a manual inflating lifer and decided by how much to inflate it depending on conditions. Normally, not at all unless you capsized. If the first attempt at righting failed, then you’d inflate the lifer before carrying on. Non-swimmers would at least partially inflate before going on the water. This was called assessing the risks for yourself, in the light of advice from the more experienced if necessary. There are circumstances where auto inflation is positively dangerous – if you end up trapped upside down between the boat and an obstruction (such as a lock wall) for example, it may seriously hinder your ability to escape.

You cannot be serious??? If you have to ask on a web site if it's a good deal or not, you certaibnly arent a professional salvager that's for sure. The boat has been flooded, I say again....flooded. Not sprayed with moisture or a hatch left open in the rain. EVERYTHING - electrics, engine, upholstery, woodwork...has become sodden. Do you genuinely believe for 1 minute that this won't haunt you for years to come? Unless you can guarantee the ENTIRE boat has been refurbished including the fittings, all the fixtures, electrical goods, the entire electrical looming and all accessories, the engine removed, stripped down and all ancilliaries replaced. Boat rustproofed and repainted. You will forever rue the day you bought it. You know what they say.................a fool and their money are easily parted.

Refleks Heater. Efficient and a thing of beauty!

So what? I accept responsibility for my actions. As I've said before, it's my choice whether I obey any law, nothing compels me to. There may be penalties imposed by society for doing so, and that's the price for that choice. What your arguments imply is that there's a way of evading that responsibility by being what used to be called a barrack room lawyer,in a way that is virtually guaranteed to be detrimental to others. In effect, you are suggesting it's legitimate to use a set of badly thought out or worded laws to rip somebody off. That's why I said it's as much a moral issue as anything. All for the price of a pint. Some law breaking is worth it. You have to choose your battles or you end up looking like a twit. I don't think that applies to you, by the way, I suspect this started out as an academic question which has got a bit out of hand.

You quoted it yourself earlier in this thread, so I suggest you recheck what you have previously written. And your continual aggressive responses to to this thread show that you are looking for nothing less than a possible loop hole to stop Worcester City Council collecting a perfectly legal and very reasonable £4 a night, but don't like the replies that disagree with you.

Of course, neither of us can be 100% sure until a court case actually occurs. But my best guess is I'm 99% sure here. Don't forget that any court case "fighting" this would occur in the lower courts, then it may go to appeal etc. And that in the lower courts, they're much more likely to just take a broad/sensible view, probably biasing it towards the public bodies (in this case it would be the local council; but the data protection one might be CRT or both) and that a lower judge would probably just relate it to his understanding of parking offences - that the registered keeper of a car is obliged to pass on details of the driver at the time of an offence etc. And that someone trying to be a "smart arse" in court and arguing the finer legal points, will probably lose in the lower courts then if/when it reaches higher ones, the corresponding legal fees become huge. Leigh Ravenscroft lost badly, and put his home at risk for some similarly unwise legal battle.

Clause 7.11 directs you to CRT privacy policies. In the privacy policy for customers there is a clear statement that they will provide your personal data to other parties for precisely the purpose we are discussing. JP

I've heard about this prenomination where someone goes to sleep and wakes up speaking Chinese.... never thought I'd come across such a case

Dr Bob dosen't wear tights

If money is a not infinite, or the waiting lists too long, then many popular shell builders will be happy to produce a decent trad style shell for you, Colecraft have made many, though not sure that they do the rivets. Don't worry about all this RCD and regulation stuff, life is too short for that. However assuming life is at least another five years I reckon you can still do whatever you want if you don't plan to sell the boat within five years, and if you do drop dead before that then it is, as they say, somebody else's problem. Probably best to order the shell without the engine, just specify bed layout, then fit the engine "yourself" a little later. ..............Dave

Or the French simply use their usual Gallic pragmatic approach to such regs...

Hi only just noticed these last two posts. sorry for late contact great to read this above from Pete Dodimead we are so pleased with our boat previous owner bought the shell and made his own layout had from new until we purchased from him. And trailed it so it was only launched 2 or 3 times and year and garaged in between so it is very good condition. We did refurb interior to make it a little more modern. We have bought ours and taken it on the Monmouth and Brecon. The 32ft is still there was amazing internal and external but in the last two years has sadly been left to deteriorate. The interior at present has been stripped out and it was a beautiful Oak finish and wonderful layout. In fact we where thinking of trying to contact the owners to see if they would sell. and would love to bring it back to its former glory. But noticed last Monday when checking on our boat the log burner was on in there so perhaps they are working on it now. thank you so much for your information Pete

Yes Ive inadvertantly clicked onto some facebook items before but the stupid pop up asking to log on or join overwhelms the page all too often. Facebook is at last being seen for what it is and hopefuly their abuse of peoples privacy and disrespect of various laws is coming to the forefront. Such platforms make life very easy for criminals in many ways which is a shame as if it were set up and used properly it would have been beneficial to many.

Halsall works the Four Counties Ring, so is through Autherley Junction, Wolverhampton at least once a month (Currently heading north on the T&M from Great Haywood to Middlewich, then across to Nantwich area next week. Seehttps://www.facebook.com/fourcountiesfuels/ for updates or call Lee & Roberta 07491 149149