lewisericeric Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 A friend is looking at purchasing a boat - hasn't viewed it yet - but has received info re the license. Number starts with a "7". I thought all CRT licenses began with a '5' and it's also not a Bridgewater license - 5 digits in total. Could it be a boat that was originally up in Scotland perhaps? Maybe Ireland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, lewisericeric said: A friend is looking at purchasing a boat - hasn't viewed it yet - but has received info re the license. Number starts with a "7". I thought all CRT licenses began with a '5' and it's also not a Bridgewater license - 5 digits in total. Could it be a boat that was originally up in Scotland perhaps? Maybe Ireland? My boat number starts with a 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) Our CRT number also begins with a 4. The previous boat's number began with an 6. There are a good number of GRP craft where the number begins with 10. I guess CRT have run out of 5 series number plates, so have moved on to the 7 series😊. N Edited April 23, 2022 by BEngo Swap 8 for 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgs Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lewisericeric said: A friend is looking at purchasing a boat - hasn't viewed it yet - but has received info re the license. Number starts with a "7". I thought all CRT licenses began with a '5' and it's also not a Bridgewater license - 5 digits in total. Could it be a boat that was originally up in Scotland perhaps? Maybe Ireland? With only 5 digits, and only 4 changing, it only gives 10,000 combinations. Sorry, a lot less. Edited April 23, 2022 by Higgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewisericeric Posted April 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 Sorry, I should have also clarified, that it wasn't the standard CRT licence disc either - just square white paper with the boat name and number on - no CRT logo, barcode etc. Unless CRT have changed their design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) On 13/01/2007 at 22:23, alan_fincher said: The Inland Boat Owners Book reckons.... BW introduced registration plates for boats on it's territory in 1981. It also seems to say that they started at 60011 for metal boats, and only (somewhat curiously) issued the missing 11 numbers 60000 to 60010 in the period 1987 to 1990. (There must be a story there, but gawd knows what it is!). Also all the following ranges show as used for metal boats in 1981 to 1982 (which would have included mopping up all boats on the system before plating was introduced) 60011 to 70561 77500 to 77599 77700 to 79999 None of the other number groups in the 60000 and 70000 series follow any strict chronological order as to which year they were used for. It all seems quire random Only when they started using 45001 to 55000 (1988 to part of 1995) and numbers starting with the the six figure 500010 (mid 95), did it start to be that as the number increased, it meant it was a more newly registered boat. That's the Anorak's answer, anyway ! - If you have that book, you can look at it yourself for all boat types, not just metal... Question, though ? What about WOODEN boats, as the number series only cover metal and plastic, as listed there.... Edited April 23, 2022 by PeterScott pic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PD1964 Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, lewisericeric said: Sorry, I should have also clarified, that it wasn't the standard CRT licence disc either - just square white paper with the boat name and number on - no CRT logo, barcode etc. Unless CRT have changed their design? Just received mine this week. Still have the logo top left but no barcode and now no more canal mooring location letters/numbers. Just expiry date, boat name & number and type, standard river and canal licence with id number. Edited April 23, 2022 by PD1964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 If you are a swan, your index number is 11992x where the x is the number on the back of your neck. As You Do If you're one of the more traditional flappy-wing sort of swan, that rampages about breaking people's arms, legs etc, C&RT seems to be a bit behind in giving out the index numbers. Or it might be something to do with the Queen driving around in cars without registration numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, lewisericeric said: A friend is looking at purchasing a boat - hasn't viewed it yet - but has received info re the license. Number starts with a "7". I thought all CRT licenses began with a '5' and it's also not a Bridgewater license - 5 digits in total. Could it be a boat that was originally up in Scotland perhaps? Maybe Ireland? I had a cruiser that was reg no 71289. Many older narrowboats started at 6****, progressing to 7****, and then reverted to 4**** followed by 5****. and latterly 5*****. At some stage, newer cruisers, which for some inexplicable reason included some steel narrowboats were allocated a 6 figure number starting 1*****. Rumour has it that some numpty at BW saw a cruiser stern as a cruiser. (bugger, now I've told you that number I'll have to change my banking PIN) Edited April 23, 2022 by Ex Brummie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ex Brummie said: (bugger, now I've told you that number I'll have to change my banking PIN) I would use my boat reg number but cant remember it, I have to give it every time I buy diesel and still have to look at it Edited April 23, 2022 by ditchcrawler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterF Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 A boat just passed me with the licence number 70***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 2 hours ago, PeterScott said: If you are a swan, your index number is 11992x where the x is the number on the back of your neck. As You Do If you're one of the more traditional flappy-wing sort of swan, that rampages about breaking people's arms, legs etc, C&RT seems to be a bit behind in giving out the index numbers. Or it might be something to do with the Queen driving around in cars without registration numbers. That is for swans moored on C&RT waters. For swans on the Thames, their EA licenses are checked during Swan Upping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: That is for swans moored on C&RT waters. For swans on the Thames, their EA licenses are checked during Swan Upping. But are their beaks clipped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 3 hours ago, PeterF said: A boat just passed me with the licence number 70***. I have one of those. The boat has had it since they first issued index numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 Mine starts with a 7…mine was first registered in 1983….think someone online had complied a list of numbers and possible age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opener Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 4 hours ago, ditchcrawler said: I would use my boat reg number but cant remember it, I have to give it every time I buy diesel and still have to look at it Do what I did when I first bought diesel - just took the registration plate into the office with me. Seemples! (Hmm. Maybe not so seemples if the number is painted on the side of the boat 🙄.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 10 hours ago, BEngo said: There are a good number of GRP craft where the number begins with 10. Yes Mine is 6 digits starting with 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 10 hours ago, lewisericeric said: Sorry, I should have also clarified, that it wasn't the standard CRT licence disc either - just square white paper with the boat name and number on - no CRT logo, barcode etc. Unless CRT have changed their design? What Barcode ? Maybe the paper was folded in a way that it was not showing the logo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 Since reading this I have been looking at numbers today and have seen half a dozen in a couple of hours starting with 7 I only photoed the first three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 One of our old NBs (from the 80's) I picked up this list from somewhere, many, many years ago. Reg number: Date first registered with B.W: 60011 to 70561 1980/1* 77500 to 77599 1980/1* 77700 to 79999 1980/1* 76000 to 77499 1982 77600 to 77699 1982 73000 to 73099 1983 75000 to 75399 1983 70562 to 71580 1984 71581 to 72567 1985 72568 to 72599 1986 73100 to 73800 1986 72600 to 72999 1987 73801 to 74856 1987 45501 to 45505 1988 74857 to 74999 1988 75400 to 75999 1988 45506 to 47299 1989 47300 to 49586 1990 49587 to 51320 1991 51321 to 52606 1992 52607 to 53554 1993 53555 to 54394 1994 54395 to 55000 1995 500010 to 500398 1995 500399 to 501364 1996 501365 to 502357 1997 502358 to 503369 1998 503370 to 504424 1999 504425 to 2000 * = System first launched for 1980/1 so boats listed as this will include craft built before this date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 At the weekend I noticed cruisers with 6 digit index numbers starting with 10, 11 and 12 locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opener Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 23/04/2022 at 15:56, PeterF said: A boat just passed me with the licence number 70***. You can now spot Canal World members. They are the ones standing on the towpath with a little notebook and pencil taking down boat registration numbers. Well, those trains move too bloody fast these days!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenA Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 24/04/2022 at 18:10, Alan de Enfield said: One of our old NBs (from the 80's) I picked up this list from somewhere, many, many years ago. Reg number: Date first registered with B.W: 60011 to 70561 1980/1* 77500 to 77599 1980/1* 77700 to 79999 1980/1* 76000 to 77499 1982 77600 to 77699 1982 73000 to 73099 1983 75000 to 75399 1983 70562 to 71580 1984 71581 to 72567 1985 72568 to 72599 1986 73100 to 73800 1986 72600 to 72999 1987 73801 to 74856 1987 45501 to 45505 1988 74857 to 74999 1988 75400 to 75999 1988 45506 to 47299 1989 47300 to 49586 1990 49587 to 51320 1991 51321 to 52606 1992 52607 to 53554 1993 53555 to 54394 1994 54395 to 55000 1995 500010 to 500398 1995 500399 to 501364 1996 501365 to 502357 1997 502358 to 503369 1998 503370 to 504424 1999 504425 to 2000 * = System first launched for 1980/1 so boats listed as this will include craft built before this date I'm pretty sure that that list is guessing some things. 72984 for example was issued in May/June 1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eeyore Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) Several steel narrowboats (including one I owned) received 6 digit plastic plates in the 10**** series. The story that came with the boat suggested that it was unclear if you were asking for a plastic plate or a plate for a plastic boat. Edited April 26, 2022 by Eeyore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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