Mike Todd Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, bizzard said: I think he meant Everybody. I suspect a gender bias somewhere in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, magnetman said: https://smokecontrol.defra.gov.uk/fuels.php?country=england The word "Supertherm" is used in 4 different products on the DEFRA approved fuels list. Clicking on the "detailed information" link to the right of the name brings up ingredients. This could explain the difference. It seems they do two types one is anthracite/ coal the other is anthracite/petcoke. That could definitely result in a flame colour difference and a smell difference too I suspect. The one with the line around it is the anthracite/petcoke version the others have no markings apparently. It seems possible that flue status could also have an effect on the burning. That's interesting info, thanks. My stove manual (Bubble corner) specifically states not to use petcoke fuels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 58 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: I generally use smokeless to do this - it also catches and heats very quickly. I don't see any advantage to using dirty house coal in a stove, so why faff about storing and using 2 fuels when the right choice of smokeless will achieve everything you need with nothing like the smoke? No faff. I’ve always found having a bag of house coal reliable for quickly starting an hot fire. Smokeless always seems to take an age to get going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Goliath said: I bought a 25kg of house coal today for £9. Burning well with great lumps in there too giving off loads of heat And clouds of yellow smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ex Brummie said: And clouds of yellow smoke? No. Black smoke. Yellow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Goliath said: No. Black smoke. Yellow? Sulphur laden smoke usually has a dirty yellow tinge to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Ex Brummie said: Sulphur laden smoke usually has a dirty yellow tinge to it. No just black smoke I must have bought quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Sea Dog said: That's interesting info, thanks. My stove manual (Bubble corner) specifically states not to use petcoke fuels. I was told once that petcoke fuels burn too hot and can buckle the grates on some stoves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furnessvale Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, magnetman said: I was told once that petcoke fuels burn too hot and can buckle the grates on some stoves. Neat petcoke burns very hot and needs watching. Mixed fuels are OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 11 hours ago, Goliath said: No just black smoke Sounds like you are over-fuelling. Have you cleaned the air filter? Oh sorry, wrong thread! ?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 12 hours ago, Ex Brummie said: Sulphur laden smoke usually has a dirty yellow tinge to it. I remember, during the days of steam on British Railways, that locomotives' chimneys sometimes emitted smoke which had that yellowish tinge. I never knew why, so thanks for that explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 My experience has been that most brands of coal vary over time, with the exception of homefire. They all seem to have bad years eventually, either more ash or changed burning properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alway Swilby Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 6 hours ago, BWM said: My experience has been that most brands of coal vary over time, with the exception of homefire. They all seem to have bad years eventually, either more ash or changed burning properties. I think you're right. I bought some Excel a few weeks ago and it's more difficult to light (needs more draft) and not as hot as last seasons stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 Just now, Alway Swilby said: I think you're right. I bought some Excel a few weeks ago and it's more difficult to light (needs more draft) and not as hot as last seasons stuff. I think you might be right, as I've found batches of other brands to do the same. The excel fire I'm sitting next to is the last of a previous stock up and it's easy to light, low ash and warm, so I hope I can get the same again very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 6 hours ago, BWM said: My experience has been that most brands of coal vary over time, with the exception of homefire. They all seem to have bad years eventually, either more ash or changed burning properties. And of course the reformulation to meet the non-flammable safety coal standard. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: And of course the reformulation to meet the non-flammable safety coal standard. ? It's the individual plastic wrappers with "warning, may contain nuts" on them that gets me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: It's the individual plastic wrappers with "warning, may contain nuts" on them that gets me! Gluten free. Suitable for vegetarians and vegans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 Just now, Jen-in-Wellies said: Gluten free. Suitable for vegetarians and vegans. Steady on, Jen - burning vegans is a bit right wing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: Steady on, Jen - burning vegans is a bit right wing! Perish the thought. All that tofu and fruit makes them too soggy anyway. Carnivores, with their high fat diet might burn rather well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 Coal is like steel. The stuff you got back in the day was far better than what you get now, and it was always thus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Coal is like steel. The stuff you got back in the day was far better than what you get now, and it was always thus. It’s all this cheap Chinese coal that’s not made with the same trees as good old fashioned British coal. I know this is true because someone down the pub has a mate who used to go out with the sister of a chap who’s cousin was a coal miner. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 hours ago, WotEver said: I know this is true because someone down the pub has a mate who used to go out with the sister of a chap who’s cousin was a coal miner. It's never what you know ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: It's never what you know ... How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree monkey Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Sea Dog said: How do you know? If you don't know how he knows, it is likely you will never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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