MtB Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 19/08/2018 at 10:17, dogless said: The evil swines! Disgraceful that they don't wish to freely give their help interfere with people enjoying working their boats through the locks at weekends. I can see what all the complaints are about now. Rog Corrected your post for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proper Charlie Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Came up Hillmorton yesterday and the volockie on duty was helpful and courteous, as he should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, alan_fincher said: The trouble with Braunston volunteers is what your post has just said. I don't doubt they are courteous and follow the guidelines, but if there are two of them on, they are both invariably at the bottom lock. Overall this does very little to help anybody get through the other 5 locks, particularly as the pounds towards the top are regularly a foot or more down below proper level. If their actual sphere of operation included walking the flight, and particularly controlling water levels, then they would be an enormous asset. Just glued to the bottom lock, with little idea of what is going on at the other five they are adding very little to the smooth operation of the flight, are they? Note: This is not a criticism of the individuals, (assuming that's what they have been told to do), but does rather make t look like a CRT publicity exercise with little useful overall benefit. For all I knew there may have been other volunteers further up the flight. I didn't walk up and didn't ask the lockies. Is too much being asked? After all these folks are "volunteers." To quote Mrs T's employers strap line "Every little helps." IMHO. As all are aware you can decline their offers of help. Edited August 21, 2018 by Ray T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogless Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Corrected your post for you... Thank you. You're probably right. It's the weekend boaters that are the problem not the volunteers Rog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowland al Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, dogless said: Thank you. You're probably right. It's the weekend boaters that are the problem not the volunteers Rog Anyone can make a mistake but if the boat owner is observant in a high risk situation (like the OP was) the chance of injury or boat damage would be greatly reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ray T said: As all are aware you can decline their offers of help. But you can't when their "help" consists of telling you how to work the lock/paddles and in a way that in my opinion is dangerous. The only way would be to tell them to go away and that seems a bit rude to me. However in my case it was one of about four AND wife reminded me another felt compelled to apologise to her for this individuals remarks about her boat handling - which I admit can be a bit erratic at times because she seem a bit slow to react. Edited August 21, 2018 by Tony Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirweste Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 19/08/2018 at 10:14, adam1uk said: Wyvern hire boats come through at the weekend there isn't a volunteer to be seen. erm...it's often manned at the weekend. Can't comment on the midweek as I'm at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted August 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 I am currently trying to resolve the wording that is going to be placed prominently on a notice on my boat, to request volunteers do not attempt to assist me in lock using. It is difficult because i wish the notice to be short but crystal clear, without being offensive. I may also want help at some point for example if solo boating, so do not wish to alienate the volunteers, some of whom as has been discussed are good. I very firmly believe the volunteers should ask permission to help boaters, some do. Any ideas ? be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billS Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 "Any offer of assistance is appreciated, but my doctor has ordered me to do more exercise, so no thanks this time." If they go and do it anyway, you can remind them that they have been trained to ask first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Ray T said: For all I knew there may have been other volunteers further up the flight. I didn't walk up and didn't ask the lockies. Is too much being asked? After all these folks are "volunteers." To quote Mrs T's employers strap line "Every little helps." IMHO. As all are aware you can decline their offers of help. Other than in the yera the idea was first intruduced, I have never seen a "volly" at Braunston anywhere in the flight but the bottom lock. That doesn't mean it never happens, but we pass through there a lot, and they eem to cover just one lock. There were three volunteer lock keepers at the single lock at Stenson on the T&M just now, which given there is currently only maybe a boat an hour seems distinct overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted August 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 hours ago, billS said: "Any offer of assistance is appreciated, but my doctor has ordered me to do more exercise, so no thanks this time." If they go and do it anyway, you can remind them that they have been trained to ask first. Im not signwriting that on a board, they would never read it. It needs to be short and pithy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, alan_fincher said: Other than in the yera the idea was first intruduced, I have never seen a "volly" at Braunston anywhere in the flight but the bottom lock. That doesn't mean it never happens, but we pass through there a lot, and they eem to cover just one lock. I have seen the Braunston lockies by lock 3, having a beer in the Nelson whilst watching us let water down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, roland elsdon said: Im not signwriting that on a board, they would never read it. It needs to be short and pithy. How about “Pith off, shorty” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, roland elsdon said: Im not signwriting that on a board, they would never read it. It needs to be short and pithy. Go forth and multiply! Pithy enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ray T said: Go forth and multiply! Pithy enough? NOOOOOO, we want fewer of them not more!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George and Dragon Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, roland elsdon said: Im not signwriting that on a board, they would never read it. It needs to be short and pithy. "And the second word is OFF" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billS Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, roland elsdon said: Im not signwriting that on a board, they would never read it. It needs to be short and pithy. Please leave lock operation to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted August 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 I said be nice ’hey (ex) teacher leave my locks alone’ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) Fly the "X" flag: (Stop carrying out your intentions and watch for my signals) Edited August 21, 2018 by Ray T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Todd Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 20 hours ago, WotEver said: Instant communication. I’m still waiting for the first QE iPhone if QE = Quantatative Easing (ie printing money) then the iPhone fits the bill - except that all the printed money goes to Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Mike Todd said: if QE = Quantatative Easing (ie printing money) then the iPhone fits the bill - except that all the printed money goes to Apple. Lol. No, in this case QE = Quantum Entanglement. Affect a particle here, and its partner will be instantaneously similarly affected wherever it is in the universe. Instant, faster-than-light communication... available right now, only in selected science fiction novels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 5 hours ago, roland elsdon said: I am currently trying to resolve the wording that is going to be placed prominently on a notice on my boat, to request volunteers do not attempt to assist me in lock using. It is difficult because i wish the notice to be short but crystal clear, without being offensive. I may also want help at some point for example if solo boating, so do not wish to alienate the volunteers, some of whom as has been discussed are good. I very firmly believe the volunteers should ask permission to help boaters, some do. Any ideas ? be nice VOLLIES THANKS BUT NO THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, WotEver said: Lol. No, in this case QE = Quantum Entanglement. Affect a particle here, and its partner will be instantaneously similarly affected wherever it is in the universe. Instant, faster-than-light communication... available right now, only in selected science fiction novels... I think it has been demonstrated in a laboratory hasn’t it? So not entirely science fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, nicknorman said: I think it has been demonstrated in a laboratory hasn’t it? So not entirely science fiction. They think they’ve seen the effect but that’s a long, long way from being able to utilise it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted August 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Ray T said: Fly the "X" flag: (Stop carrying out your intentions and watch for my signals) I like it , also add 5 short horn bursts ’ i dont know what you are doing and consider you a hazard cos you dont either’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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