jenlyn Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Nothing to apologise for Neil, this forum is well known (sadly) for being populated by the kind of sad t''ts that any decent individual would roll their eyes at and move down the bar a bit to get away from. Somebody does the right thing by giving advice or a heads up and they come out of the woodwork. Greenie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoth Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Nothing to apologise for Neil, this forum is well known (sadly) for being populated by the kind of sad t###s that any decent individual would roll their eyes at and move down the bar a bit to get away from. Somebody does the right thing by giving advice or a heads up and they come out of the woodwork. Take a green one. You said it better than I could. Bob Edited February 1, 2016 by DHutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I've regularly moored in Brownsover, both sides of the cut and stayed overnight. Only problem I've ever had is a pin being pulled out by a passing boat but as I was at Tesco somebody kindly pulled the boat in and did the best to secure us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_P Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 In previous threads about genny's it's been argued that they should be on the towpath, well away from the boat while running, to avoid getting fumes into the boat. How does that square up with keeping them chained up when running? I've never seen a genny running on the towpath, away from the boat, with a long chain securing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlyn Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 In previous threads about genny's it's been argued that they should be on the towpath, well away from the boat while running, to avoid getting fumes into the boat. How does that square up with keeping them chained up when running? I've never seen a genny running on the towpath, away from the boat, with a long chain securing it. Probably because it would be a really stupid thing to do. The genny can be positioned on board a boat to sufficiently disperse the fumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_P Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Probably because it would be a really stupid thing to do. The genny can be positioned on board a boat to sufficiently disperse the fumes. I tend to agree. But I've seen many people on here arguing otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 And in case you didn't work it out I meant that isn't the sort of language i expect on a family friendly forum so rather than report it I gave you a little nudge. ........ another Pork Pie Rabbi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlyn Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I tend to agree. But I've seen many people on here arguing otherwise. Probably never owned a genny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 ........ another Pork Pie Rabbi? I do like pork pies but I am not Jewish let alone a Rabbi so I am not sure what you mean. I do realise there are a number of you who see t*** as an innocuous word however in the circles I mix with and live among it means the same and ranks alongside the C word. I sincerely trust you wouldn't countenance using that word on the forum. However I will take your point and not issue any nudges in future I will go straight to report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 In previous threads about genny's it's been argued that they should be on the towpath, well away from the boat while running, to avoid getting fumes into the boat. How does that square up with keeping them chained up when running? Chaining it to piling a short distance from the boat makes sense to me, or a convenient mooring ring if present. But you'd have to be careful that by moving it away from your boat you don't stock it next to somebody elses boat/window/hatch whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 In previous threads about genny's it's been argued that they should be on the towpath, well away from the boat while running, to avoid getting fumes into the boat. How does that square up with keeping them chained up when running? I've never seen a genny running on the towpath, away from the boat, with a long chain securing it. I run my genny on the towpath. To secure it I use one of these http://www.spyrabase.co.uk/product_info.php?ID=9973 screwed into the ground and one of these to secure it to the genny. http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-lights-locks/bike-locks/master-lock-integrated-chain-lock-1000mm Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Perhaps they moor there because they have never heard of Brownsover and don't know of its reputation. I have often moored in Rugby, though never overnight, and it has never struck me as being a place teeming with villains and ragged persons. We usually stop as near to the footpath which leads down to Tesco (bridge 58?) as we can. Well if you look at the number of boats that moor for quite some time both near the toilet block, on the tow path opposite and even near the aqueduct they cant find it to bad. People say Birmingham is safe but I have a friend who had their boat broken into there mid afternoon. No where is 100% safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I run my genny on the towpath. To secure it I use one of these http://www.spyrabase.co.uk/product_info.php?ID=9973 screwed into the ground and one of these to secure it to the genny. http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-lights-locks/bike-locks/master-lock-integrated-chain-lock-1000mm Ken Am I missing something? It looks to me as if all a thief has to do is quietly unscrew the spyrabase from the ground then unplug and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Theft prevention has two levels, to stop the opportunist and/or the planner. First one is possible, second one almost impossible. Sorry to say in this case neither were applied. As for Brownsover, moored there many times and even left the boat for days, no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I think I realise where this location is. We have moored there quite a few times over the last twelve years, even before the building of the new houses just off the tow path and alongside the path to tescos. Never had a problem. I was followed once from Tesco to the canal by two dodgy looking lads. I did a stock check of what I had on me, phone,wallet etc. Anyway no problem. But it does tighten certain muscles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Ah, the good old days of uk.rec.waterways! It is still there, but sadly depleted of membership I came here in 2008 because uk.rec.waterways had been taken over by spam and trolls. I just took a look, and there seems to be some moderation now, but very few posts. But I see Canaldrifter (Tony Haynes) is still posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Am I missing something? It looks to me as if all a thief has to do is quietly unscrew the spyrabase from the ground then unplug and run.Yes, but it's quite difficult in practice as the bike chain winds itself up, making it even more difficult. You end up having to turn the complete set-up, genny included, to unscrew it. Also they would need to be carrying some sort of tool to unwind it. Like any security device, it's only a deterrent to an opportunist. If I am moored next to Armco the genny can be chained through that instead. Ken Edited January 22, 2016 by NB Ellisiana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Yes, but it's quite difficult in practice as the bike chain winds itself up, making it even more difficult. You end up having to turn the complete set-up, genny included, to unscrew it. Also they would need to be carrying some sort of tool to unwind it. Like any security device, it's only a deterrent to an opportunist. If I am moored next to Armco the genny can be chained through that instead. Ken Ah so not as easy as it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald Fox Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Will the insurance company pay for the generator? I hope the thieves fall into a pit of treacle and someone knocks a wasps nest into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoth Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 ^^^^^^ That's a good sentiment! Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Be careful when chaining a suitcase type generator up through the handle, the handles themselves are often only plastic inside, and can be quickly and easily cut with a battery powered hot wire cutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Be careful when chaining a suitcase type generator up through the handle, the handles themselves are often only plastic inside, and can be quickly and easily cut with a battery powered hot wire cutter. Or more simply, a junior hacksaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta9 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Or more simply,noisily, a junior hacksaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Should have gone to specsavers. Misread post title as 'Granny thief' Rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Don't go to specsavers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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