Historic Boats for sale online

[Mike Tee]

Thats the one, thank you - its been driving me mad for the past hour trying to think of it

[zenataomm]

For me it's Tycho or nothing.

[monkeyhanger]

3 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

Ah, yes - going back a few years now.

 

Both Canis Major and Dodona are based on one half of a boat, with there also being a Canis and a Dodona elsewhere, being made from the other "half" of each.

The other half of Dodona was between the bottom of Marsworth locks and Peters two the last time I saw it.

 

[canalboat]

23 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

Or, of course, as you are the seller, you could instead just have answered any question(s) here.  (Unless the answers are secret, of course).

You never were one to miss the opportunity of spouting absolute misleading rubbish were you?

[MtB]

30 minutes ago, canalboat said:

You never were one to miss the opportunity of spouting absolute misleading rubbish were you?

 

 

What charming post. 

 

 

[Athy]

39 minutes ago, canalboat said:

You never were one to miss the opportunity of spouting absolute misleading rubbish were you?

Bearing in mind AF's long track record of informative posting, especially regarding historic boats, this is surely a harsh judgement, as well as being unnecessarily brusque.

Edited September 9, 2022 by Athy

[BWM]

On 03/09/2022 at 16:37, agg221 said:

Personal choice, but of the three I would go for Badsey. For me, it's about what you end up with and when it comes down to it, Hydrus is a motor conversion of a butty with a lot more to be spent on the fit-out whereas Badsey is a useable boat with a solid history. The extra £50k would go a long way to covering any repair costs arising. Ivy is beautiful, and if I was in a money no object position then I would do it, but for someone without extremely deep pockets it has a lot of ongoing costs to bear in mind.

 

One big issue I have with Hydrus is the decision to fit a wooden cabin. It seems a really odd choice to me on a boat which doesn't have much originality about it, setting up the owner for a lot more maintenance and giving a difficult joint to manage between the cabin sides and the hull. Certainly would not have been my choice. Each to their own if they want to build a boat a particular way, but doing it for sale this wouldn't seem to be the way to maximise appeal to the market.

 

Alec

There are at least two good reasons for the timber back cabin, the first being the internal dimensions being substantially larger with a wooden cabin - particularly relevant on a small boat as the cross bed is above gunwhale height in these. You gain around 4" in cabin width against an insulated steel copy.

 The second is that the owner is an excellent carpenter, another i'd add is a timber cabin is much more pleasant to sleep in.

[BWM]

On 08/09/2022 at 09:29, IanM said:

 

Someone I know was the one who had the stern put back on it.

 

It's the bit of Gorse which was the BW hire boat (I want to say Water Lupin) which had the original Yarwoods stern lopped off and a square cruiser one put on.  The redundant stern was then made into the other Gorse.  

 

In 2014/15 the cruiser stern was removed from Water Lupin and a rivetted traditional one put back on so there could be more Gorse in this Gorse than the other Gorse!

 

As far as I know nothing was done under the cloths as they had a butty with an under cloth conversion as well.  They sold both about 5 or 6 years ago.

 

Below is the original back end of Gorse.

 

 

 

Gorse arrived at Stockton in 2013, with a sheet of plywood bolted on as a (very temporary) transom. The work on the hull/cabin construction finished early 2014 and she was refloated with ours. Have attached a few pictures but couldn't find some of the better ones

[Mike Tee]

On 08/09/2022 at 07:14, Mike Tee said:

https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/yarwoods-for-sale/711721

 

I rather like this one

 

 

Advert seems to have gone - sold already?

[sparrowcycles]

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmarketplace%2Fitem%2F816729252667418%2F%3Frid%3D10159496565454011%26ad_id%26rt%3D1%26refID%3D0%26refType%3D0%26referral_code%3Dcommerce_attachment&h=AT3PTTUPrfkqxaphn3Icsg8U9fxbrpHmJwl0lynaL_8ifkLqrw9UppPzYwatQjeOVFoD6c_UaIQJNQhr8Uj8ak2W7b0mA6ycFHboHXRxB5i1S8qEwOXRRv5XAk8RrZkNziDcACfvv4tLXD4z9q4THNVRiMY

 

Hawk, looks like a wooden joey with a Fowler engine.. 

[BuckbyLocks]

Ernie Thomas hire boat? They were named after birds I think.

[merline]

On 11/09/2022 at 13:15, sparrowcycles said:

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmarketplace%2Fitem%2F816729252667418%2F%3Frid%3D10159496565454011%26ad_id%26rt%3D1%26refID%3D0%26refType%3D0%26referral_code%3Dcommerce_attachment&h=AT3PTTUPrfkqxaphn3Icsg8U9fxbrpHmJwl0lynaL_8ifkLqrw9UppPzYwatQjeOVFoD6c_UaIQJNQhr8Uj8ak2W7b0mA6ycFHboHXRxB5i1S8qEwOXRRv5XAk8RrZkNziDcACfvv4tLXD4z9q4THNVRiMY

 

Hawk, looks like a wooden joey with a Fowler engine.. 

Composite? Recent video on Facebook appears to show riveted sides

https://www.facebook.com/groups/591544142195413/permalink/656148012401692/

[Nick G]

12 hours ago, merline said:

Composite? Recent video on Facebook appears to show riveted sides

https://www.facebook.com/groups/591544142195413/permalink/656148012401692/

Not riveted sides - what appear to be rivets are actually the nails which fix the shearing (thin strips of oak fastened vertically on the inside of the hull planking. You can also see the iron knees which are not covered by the shearing.

[David Mack]

4 minutes ago, Nick G said:

You can also see the iron knees which are not covered by the shearing.

Which are bolted to the main hull planking.

[merline]

1 hour ago, Nick G said:

Not riveted sides - what appear to be rivets are actually the nails which fix the shearing (thin strips of oak fastened vertically on the inside of the hull planking. You can also see the iron knees which are not covered by the shearing.

Ah yes, I see now, thank you!:

[spud]

another nackerd butty

 

https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/yarwoods-northwich-butty-for-sale/713213

[alan_fincher]

27 minutes ago, spud said:

another nackerd butty

 

https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/yarwoods-northwich-butty-for-sale/713213

 

I'm assuming property of chris pink of this forum, (although I don't think he has visited in over a year).

[James Owen]

3 hours ago, spud said:

another nackerd butty

 

https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/yarwoods-northwich-butty-for-sale/713213

Albeit advertised with some woefully inaccurate information.

[alan_fincher]

Quote

"It was built as Triagulum but never had a hard live, acquired by Willow Wren and run together with Greenfinch in the 1960s. "

 

Highly unlikely - where Willow Wren changed the name of a boat, it was to the name of a water bird, of some kind. A greenfinch is not a water bird!

[furnessvale]

1 hour ago, alan_fincher said:

 

Highly unlikely - where Willow Wren changed the name of a boat, it was to the name of a water bird, of some kind. A greenfinch is not a water bird!

The only non water bird name I can see in Willow Wren listing is Kestrel, which interestingly, is claimed on the HNBC site boat list to be the name applied to Triagulum!

Edited September 25, 2022 by furnessvale

[alan_fincher]

34 minutes ago, furnessvale said:

The only non water bird name I can see in Willow Wren listing is Kestrel, which interestingly, is claimed on the HNBC site boat list to be the name applied to Triagulum!

Yes, correct!  Butty Kestrel is the only example I can think of for a boat renamed by Willow Wren as a bird, but not a water bird.

 

I'm struggling to remember the exact history, but I know that before it was acquired by Willow Wren it was acquired and used in trade by the Wyvern Shipping Company, being renamed as Elizabeth whilst in their ownership, and ultimately sold on to Willow Wren, when it acquired the name Kestrel.

 

Photos published in what should be fairly reputable sources wrongly claim that the boat that was operated by the Wyvern Shipping Company as Elizabeth was in fact GUCCCo Scales.  Pete Harrison has been able to disprove that - the Willow Wren boat was originally Triagulum.

I wonder which (if any) of the names Triagulum, Elizabeth or Kestrel she currently carries?

[matty40s]

4 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

Yes, correct!  Butty Kestrel is the only example I can think of for a boat renamed by Willow Wren as a bird, but not a water bird.

 

I'm struggling to remember the exact history, but I know that before it was acquired by Willow Wren it was acquired and used in trade by the Wyvern Shipping Company, being renamed as Elizabeth whilst in their ownership, and ultimately sold on to Willow Wren, when it acquired the name Kestrel.

 

Photos published in what should be fairly reputable sources wrongly claim that the boat that was operated by the Wyvern Shipping Company as Elizabeth was in fact GUCCCo Scales.  Pete Harrison has been able to disprove that - the Willow Wren boat was originally Triagulum.

I wonder which (if any) of the names Triagulum, Elizabeth or Kestrel she currently carries?

Kestrel

[alan_fincher]

11 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Kestrel

 

Ah yes - simply study photo.  Doh.

[David Mack]

1 hour ago, alan_fincher said:

I wonder which (if any) of the names Triagulum, Elizabeth or Kestrel she currently carries?

Kestrel.

[David Schweizer]

10 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

I'm assuming property of chris pink of this forum, (although I don't think he has visited in over a year).

 

Chris certainly still owned Kestrel a number of years ago. I supplied him with enough very large brass screws to re-fit the portholes when he renovated the back cabin. I haven't seen him or Kestrel for a while, so whether he is still the owner, I do not know. If people really want to know, I could probably  find out.