IanM Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 So that's two more than archie57 says there is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, IanM said: I believe Denebola has wooden bottoms still and is unconverted. The person who has posted before you will certainly be able to confirm that(!) I'm guessing Alcor is one of the converted ones - would need to think about another..... Archie57 has covered the small Woolwich boats. I'm uncertain about the Northwich ones, but Sculptor certainly, and from the advert it would appear Bellatrix also. Do any others of those with "trust" or CRT connections still retain them, or is it only Sculptor? 21 minutes ago, IanM said: So that's two more than archie57 says there is I doubt he will be proved wrong! He specifically only mentions Woowich boats, and Denebola will definitely be in his count. Edited June 21, 2017 by alan_fincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanM Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 For some reason I thought Bellatrix was a Woolwich, my mistake. 3 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: The person who has posted before you will certainly be able to confirm that(!) Why's that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Didnt Princess Anne have new wooden bottoms fitted recently (last couple of years)? ex Plato. No but she had some recaulking work done at sheet stores late last year. Still wooden bottoms. Edited June 21, 2017 by AMModels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, IanM said: For some reason I thought Bellatrix was a Woolwich, my mistake. I'm now wondering what Bellatrix's history can have been. The George and the Mary, (not an infallible source though!) says it was never health registered, and was sold off by the GUCCCo as early as 1942 Edited June 21, 2017 by alan_fincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: I'm now wondering what Bellatrix's historyc an have been. The George and the Mary, (not an infallible source though!) says it was never heath registered, and was sold off by the GUCCCo as early as 1942 Sold to the Wulfruna Coal Co., Wolverhampton, circa. 1939 / 40, and gauged for BCN by them. In 1966 was run as a trip boat at Kinver by Midland Navigation. By Sep 1990 restored to carrying condition. She was based at Greensforge on the S&W and was always very very smart, very much original imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, AMModels said: She was based at Greensforge on the S&W and was always very very smart, very much original imo Yes, I definitely recall admiring her each time we have passed. I need to remind myself I already have a "Large" and a "Middle" Northwich, and whilst a "Small" to complete the collection would be lovely, it ain't really practical! From 2011 (Was it really that long ago?) Edited June 21, 2017 by alan_fincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: Yes, I definitely recall admiring her each time we have passed. I need to remind myself I already have a "Large" and a "Middle" Northwich, and whilst a "Small" to complete the collection would be lovely, it ain't really practical! Im sure you could find crew to help out without a problem.... you know you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 50 minutes ago, AMModels said: Sold to the Wulfruna Coal Co., Wolverhampton, circa. 1939 / 40, and gauged for BCN by them. In 1966 was run as a trip boat at Kinver by Midland Navigation. By Sep 1990 restored to carrying condition. She was based at Greensforge on the S&W and was always very very smart, very much original imo. Fortunately BELLATRIX has a very traceable history, and is rare (but not unique) in having only three owners since it was built. I can supply specific dates for transfer of ownership, gaugings e.t.c., and as usual I will pass these on to the next owner upon their request. Last week I bought a fairly expensive car so although BELLATRIX would have been a boat I would offer on it will not be on this occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie57 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 hours ago, AMModels said: Didnt Princess Anne have new wooden bottoms fitted recently (last couple of years)? ex Plato. No but she had some recaulking work done at sheet stores late last year. Still wooden bottoms. Yes, you're right - (this is what comes of sticking my head above the parapet!) It struck me also that afaik the "Venus" is still around - does that qualify as a Little Woolwich? (not composite though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Just now, archie57 said: Yes, you're right - (this is what comes of sticking my head above the parapet!) It struck me also that afaik the "Venus" is still around - does that qualify as a Little Woolwich? (not composite though) hehe its one of the perils of daring to speak out, I know Ive been shot down enough times in the past I think Venus qualifies as she does indeed have wooden bottoms...and everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Interesting comment that 50000 is strong for a boat too wide to go everywhere, given that people pay over 100000 for a new fat boat that can't go anywhere and will depreciate faster than a full elsan. All small woolwich boats have width issues, I recal a certain motor having the guards removed to get off the Llangollen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 On 21/11/2016 at 18:42, David Mack said: FMC Dolphin (not Fish Class either) http://www.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=496974 Price reduction on this one..... Linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 On 27/05/2017 at 13:06, carlt said: Historic as far as I'm concerned but not in the eyes of others. There always seems to be a flurry of Taylors of Chester beauties come up whenever I haven't got the dosh to hand: Ivy May Lady Avon The second one is very much like the boats mum and dad used to hire in the seventies when I was preoccupied on big grey ships with guns and stuff. They would have names like Gay Monica etc. Perhaps this lady was 'Gay' once. On 27/05/2017 at 13:06, carlt said: Historic as far as I'm concerned but not in the eyes of others. There always seems to be a flurry of Taylors of Chester beauties come up whenever I haven't got the dosh to hand: Ivy May Lady Avon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 That image of Lady Avon has triggered a memory. I vaguely recall going on a boating holiday in the very early 60's with my grandparents, on the rivers Cam and Great Ouse on a boat like that. Must have been about 6 at the time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 There is yet another Taylors of Chester boat (I think) for sale on the K&A in the Hungerford to Devizes area. It looks to my eye exactly like the Lady Avon but is only about 28ft. Price is £30k according to the adverts displayed in the windows. I should have taken some photos as I've encountered it several times. Not seen it for a few weeks now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilesMorris Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 >They would have names like Gay Monica etc. Could that be Barbara Joan and Lindy Helen? If so, I spent the summer Saturdays of my youth working for the man who hired them out - the very best job I ever had! Memory of descending Tyrley Locks on an October midnight with Barbara Joan as part of a weekend ferry trip from Wheaton Aston to Llangollen... Wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 ROE has been for sale on Apollo Duck for a week or so, and as nobody has mentioned it yet here it is: http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/advert.phtml?id=521049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, pete harrison said: ROE has been for sale on Apollo Duck for a week or so, and as nobody has mentioned it yet here it is: http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/advert.phtml?id=521049 And of course nobody who might spend £100K on it wants to know what the outside of it looks like!....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 On 2017-6-21 at 11:32, alan_fincher said: Yes, I definitely recall admiring her each time we have passed. I need to remind myself I already have a "Large" and a "Middle" Northwich, and whilst a "Small" to complete the collection would be lovely, it ain't really practical! From 2011 (Was it really that long ago?) Looking much the same yesterday as we came past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, alan_fincher said: And of course nobody who might spend £100K on it wants to know what the outside of it looks like!....... There are a couple of pictures on the HNBC site http://hnbc.org.uk/boats/roe I see there are more pictures now on ApolloDuck. I jumped the gun a bit when criticising the lack of photos. I still think it's a bit pricey. Edited July 4, 2017 by koukouvagia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Back cabin looks a bit antiseptic for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Not a lot of boat for the money I feel. A butchered butty from the ugliest period of working boats with a surfeit of light paint and tiles. All that and an engine better suited to propelling single decker buses and medium sized trucks at grand velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 3 hours ago, alan_fincher said: And of course nobody who might spend £100K on it wants to know what the outside of it looks like!....... Gardner only built one type of engine then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddyboater Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Although not historically correct 4LK's actually make good n/boat engines. Smooth running, happy at low revs, and at a mere 3.8 litres smaller than many more popular triples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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