Similar Lock Arrangement Like This?

[mark99]

Looking for examples like this - lock either side of river (Old Uttoxeter Canal).

 

Can anyone think of one?

Edited September 16, 2022 by mark99

[GUMPY]

Where the Trent crosses the T&M at Alreawas

A bit longer bit of canal on one side but still a lock either side.

 

https://maps.app.goo.gl/y1muRFaujDtsAXwo8

Edited September 16, 2022 by Loddon

[pearley]

And South Oxford crossing the Cherwell.

[Jen-in-Wellies]

Between River lock and Jordan lock on the Sheffield and South Yorkshire. Again, a longer stretch of river between the locks, but functionally identical.

https://canalplan.org.uk/place/q2ob

 

 

[GUMPY]

Also where the GU crosses the River Chess/Colne at  Batchworth ?

Having said that it's all a bit complex there😱

[magnetman]

Wey navigations there are several examples of this. I suppose the reaches are longer though.

 

Also the bit between Copper Mill and Black Jacks on the GU is similar in a way with the Colne (?) going in and out but not sure if it follows the original course of the river.

Edited September 16, 2022 by magnetman

[GUMPY]

3 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Wey navigations there are several examples of this.

But that's all river 😱

[magnetman]

Just now, Loddon said:

But that's all river 😱

Oops.

[David Mack]

34 minutes ago, Loddon said:

But that's all river 😱

But it's all a continuum really, with canals crossing rivers on the level at one end, through to river navigations with increasingly long man-made lock cuts, through to full artificial canals at the other.

Many river navigations have over time gone from navigating the natural course of the river with perhaps a few flash locks, to increasing lengths of artificial lock cut, bypassing more and more of the original course, ending up as essentially man-made canals with a few river sections.

[Pluto]

On the Bata Canal in the Czech Republic.

[ditchcrawler]

One in Ireland on the river in Limerick  I don't have a photo with me

[Tonka]

What about the bottom of Stoke Bruern locks. The river Tove floes across

[GUMPY]

31 minutes ago, Tonka said:

What about the bottom of Stoke Bruern locks. The river Tove floes across

Only when its in flood, otherwise it goes under

[magpie patrick]

Beeleigh on the Chelmer & Blackwater? The navigation crosses the Blackwater on the level and results in the unusual combination of the flood lock being downstream of its associated lock as the river is between them. 

 

I've a feeling Lordings on the Arun was similar? 

 

It is however not a common arrangement - Aynho Weir lock and Nells Bridge are the closest I can think of, and Nells Bridge is quite a distance from the crossing 

[matty40s]

The Derby canal did this across the Derwent I seem to recall.

[Heartland]

Yes the Derby Canal did cross the Derwent, at Derby, and this link had locks on both side of the river and what is credited with being the first iron aqueduct over the mill stream south of the Derwent.

 

The Churnet was also crossed by the Caldon Canal in a similar fashion to the Uttoxeter although the engineer was different. With the Uttoxeter the engineer was John Rennie, senior and with the Caldon the final credit is best placed with Hugh Henshall and his staff.

 

There is also the rarer case of a lock down to a river and the river being navigable for a short section. With the Derwent and the Derby Canal there was a separate lock to enable craft to reach parts of the Derwent at Derby and near  Wilden there was a lock that enabled narrowboats to pass from the Staffordshire & Worcestershire Canal and the Stour

[Pluto]

Sebastian Maillard mentions the Derby Canal cast iron aqueduct in his book on canals; my translation of the book is available below.

[Chris Lowe]

I have that book but haven't yet had time to read it.

[ditchcrawler]

22 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

One in Ireland on the river in Limerick  I don't have a photo with me

Here is the Limerick one on the river Shannon from Google Maps its quite a long one  

[Dav and Pen]

In Belgium there’s a crossing of the tidal river Yser on the route from Bruges to Dunkirk. Can be a bit tricky.

[Derek R.]

I cannot help but wonder why the OP has asked the question. Curiosity? Or some other reason?

[magpie patrick]

On 16/09/2022 at 09:14, Jen-in-Wellies said:

Between River lock and Jordan lock on the Sheffield and South Yorkshire. Again, a longer stretch of river between the locks, but functionally identical.

https://canalplan.org.uk/place/q2ob

 

 

Historically that was more or less a crossing, the canal downstream of Tinsley was on the other side of the valley. 

[Jen-in-Wellies]

1 hour ago, magpie patrick said:

Historically that was more or less a crossing, the canal downstream of Tinsley was on the other side of the valley. 

Do you have a map of that arrangement? Would be interested in seeing it. The area changed a lot, as more canals were cut to make the river easier to navigate, then railway construction shifted the route. I know about the area further east, Iccles to Rotherham town and how the railway altered that, but not what is now the most upstream navigable bit of the Don, River Lock to Jordan. There would have been a wharf around there, before the Sheffield and Tinsley was built, but where, I don't know.

 

Edited September 18, 2022 by Jen-in-Wellies

[Pluto]

The section below Tinsley in 1819.

[Jen-in-Wellies]

36 minutes ago, Pluto said:

The section below Tinsley in 1819.

Many thanks. I'd no idea it was like that back then. Hugely different from the current alignment.

Edited September 18, 2022 by Jen-in-Wellies