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  1. This time is best described as the 1880's in the Midlands and earlier in the North West and North East.
  2. It is certainly encouraging to see a district of Merseyside supporting the canals, I can only hope that the local troglodytes do not cause any damage.
  3. There are times when it seems to some that the defining moment of canal history began with the publication of the large scale Ordnance Survey maps. The IWA Blue book of the BCN gives this impression and other few other works often resort to the Ordnance Survey to show waterways development#. Listening to an Alarum Theatre recording on the Netherton Canal, excellent though it is. led me to wonder on the concentration of recent history, and that is what this group choose to tackle. Yet with the Netherton Canal there was some hundred years of history that perhaps deserves better mention. The opening of the Lapal Tunnel, the coal traffic from the mines to the Dudley Canal owned basins at Gas Street, Birmingham, the early merchandise carriers wharves, the development of the iron industry and the linked industry of chain making. James Dadfords plan of the railway at Netherton- the list goes on....
  4. How fast can a boat escape on the Leeds & Liverpool Canal? However for those with dishonest intentions access to a canal boat does provide access to the offside and the property that adjoins it.
  5. Quite a comprehensive list, it will be of interest to see what comments are made
  6. Ah 1883, I wonder if that is significant. Certainly later the bridges were numbered from the Kings Norton end later. The Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton Railway took over the canal and then the GWR had it. Bridge renumbering might have been a factor then, but if so why was not this revised system retained. The next question relates to the 1883 map, which may be a an early copy of the later published map and to how accurate it was.
  7. What is date if this map ? The look of it is first ordnance survey.
  8. With Rotherham, I believe the Central station was on the course of the Navigation
  9. There were times when a new railway required a canal diversion. The Birmingham Canal has several examples, but there were cases elsewhere. on the Oxford, Trent and Mersey Canal etc The work had to meet the specification of the company engineer, but not always. When James Shiptons timber yard was moved to allow the space to be used by the High Level Station, the railway contractors Hoof, Hill & Moore supplied a bricklayer and foreman to make the new canal basin into the new timber yard. Canal company records rarely mention who did what, but the general responsibility was with the railway contractor. The making of the BCN diversion from Canal Street to Albion Wharf probably ranks as perhaps one of the longest sections a railway contractor might have made, But it would be of interest to know of other examples.
  10. If recall the Ridgacre Canal in the West Midlands has a similar portfolio, although much shorter in length This isolated section was created through the making of the Black Country Spine Road and passed to the local authority. It is in water and could have been avoided if the Spine Road crossed by a bridge. The loss was the moorings for boaters that could have happened, especially as a public house was built on the isolated section
  11. I understand that the system of carrying Crumb by boat was developed by Cadbury's they had issues with milk delivered, in churns, by railway wagon in the summer. This would predate OWL
  12. The name on the side of the boat in June 1965 was Midland Canal Carriers, Wolverhampton. Has the story of this name been followed ?
  13. I notice this on going CRT notice warning boaters. Please be advised that there is a metal post in the bed of the canal from the derelict moorings just South of the Camp private visitor moorings (Just south of Bevere Lock) Boaters are asked to take extra care when landing or leaving these moorings. Bed of canal ? The river Severn may have had locks installed from Worcester to Stourport, but is still a river !
  14. In 1965 CACTUS was taking trips of people on board from its base in Wolverhampton again with Charlie Atkins steering.
  15. I always wave at cyclists, especially if they are going fast near narrow bits like bridges ... I've not had one fall off waving back yet, but there's been a couple nearly did. There is always hope that a rogue cyclist might be distracted, I suppose, but with head down and headcams on some are oblivious to what goes on
  16. It is also clear from canal company minutes on the narrow midland canal that forms of boats were used to move spoil to assist with embankment construction, but with later canals contractors might use narrow gauge railways to assist with the transport of spoil.
  17. Now I am curious as to the Wolverton Railway embankment. Where is there a reference to that? There was a court case where the LBR sought to prevent the GJC from taking down their temporary contractors viaduct. The GJ maintained that the LBR had the right to make permanent viaduct but not a temporary one. Of course to build the embankment on one side, the contractor needed the temporary one and it was left to the Rolls Court to sort out the legalities.
  18. Whilst this vessel has appeared on the Forum, I was interested to discover the routes Tranquil Rose was used as a hotel boat. With a beam of 12ft 6in that would be a limit to certain navigations such as the East Midlands.
  19. The Weedon embankment and iron aqueduct on the Grand Junction Canal was made to replace the earlier locks to the Ouse crossing As Pluto states the Burnley embankment is most impressive and was done at time as the canal progressed to completion. All such embankments came with better understanding of building waterways. Telfords embankment from Froncysyltte has bee mentioned, but his feeder also perhaps deserves mention. On the BCN Main Line there is the embankment across the Sheepwash Valley, which few comment on until they see it close up
  20. Charles Hadfield and David St John Thomas were responsible for the books. Later David St John Thomas produced publications at Nairn
  21. Thank you, looks a bit like a Calder and Hebble Spike
  22. The Atherstone wedge seems to be a method of letting water into the lock. It would be of interest to know of the history?
  23. The Waterways Archive has a map from GWR times (Michael Ware Collection) which shows the location of the locks, but does not identify a numbering system. The bridges on the CRT map indicate a numbering that does start at Swansea, however.
  24. With 150 views and 2 responses, Charles Hadfield seems to be a forgotten historian, Despite the fact that his works and contributions have had enormous impact on the understanding of waterways history, a modern generation seems to have less interest in his accomplishments. May be there is now less interest in Waterways History. There is more interest in rescuing a deer from a lock than commenting on Charles Hadfield, it would seem.
  25. The BCNS have organised a cruise event to Bradley Workshops. See the following notice. BCNS Autumn Cruise September 2021.docx
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