phillyfish Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 According to someone delivering an Aqualine Marine Widebeam boat you do not have to close lock gates. This for them has been the case for over a hundred miles. Aqualine do not seem to be bothered about it but everyone else having to do his job for him seem to be. Is it me or are Aqualine Marine employies or there contractors excempt form common decency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, phillyfish said: According to someone delivering an Aqualine Marine Widebeam boat you do not have to close lock gates. This for them has been the case for over a hundred miles. Aqualine do not seem to be bothered about it but everyone else having to do his job for him seem to be. Is it me or are Aqualine Marine employies or there contractors excempt form common decency? I would say they were correct if another boat was waiting to enter the lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, phillyfish said: According to someone delivering an Aqualine Marine Widebeam boat you do not have to close lock gates. This for them has been the case for over a hundred miles. Aqualine do not seem to be bothered about it but everyone else having to do his job for him seem to be. Is it me or are Aqualine Marine employies or there contractors excempt form common decency? No it's some Testo-di-catso spouting off. The rules apply to everybody... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyfish Posted May 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said: I would say they were correct if another boat was waiting to enter the lock. True, but in the majority of cases there hasn't been anyone waiting to go in. only people behind him doing his job for him as they follow him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, phillyfish said: True, but in the majority of cases there hasn't been anyone waiting to go in. only people behind him doing his job for him as they follow him. Which waterway, which locks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyfish Posted May 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said: Which waterway, which locks? we have been affected by this from Lock 7 on the Grand Union to Lock 72. Others here have been behind him for longer. I wonder if Aqualine are aware of the bad name this is giving them. I know other boaters have phoned in to Aqualine but the behaviour has not changed at all. So do they not care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, phillyfish said: So do they not care? Sorry I don't know the answer to that particular question. I don't work for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Why has no one walked up and chained the lock in front of them until they amend their bad behavior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo47 Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Not a part of the system I have used since my first canal holiday in 1976, but in the late 1970's I recall reading in a canal mag that it was often the practice on the southern GU to leave gates open when leaving locks. We always closed ours after us unless meeting boats going the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ronaldo47 said: Not a part of the system I have used since my first canal holiday in 1976, but in the late 1970's I recall reading in a canal mag that it was often the practice on the southern GU to leave gates open when leaving locks. We always closed ours after us unless meeting boats going the other way. Hence my earlier question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassman Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 When we were on the southern end of the GU (I can't remember where exactly) in 2018 there were some locks that had notices by them saying please leave the gate open open after exiting the lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pegg Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 Lock 7 is Buckby top lock, hasn't been custom to leave gates open there since the end of regular carrying. There is a theory that on the river fed sections of the southern GU that gates can be left open but the over-riding requirement is to close gates unless there is a notice to the opposite effect. Any boat mover that does not accord to the regulations and requests of the navigation authority is not a professional. The standard should be higher than that of other boaters. In respect of @Grassman's comment above are you sure the notice was to leave the gates open rather than to leave the lock empty? In any case I think most of the locks which such notices are further south than lock 72. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 Are they leaving both sets of gates open? 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) According to what's written on FaceAche, he doesn't suggest that other boats shouldn't close the gates, just that as he's a commercial boater he doesn't have to. Seems like prize pillock to me, and my response, after a short burst of well aimed profanity, would be to moor up until a few boats were between me and him, simply to avoid the aggravation. Unless, of course, you could get just in front of him and return the compliment. Edited May 14, 2022 by Arthur Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 Upper Avon lock sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 If he is a commercial boat mover I would be reporting him to CRT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Rob-M said: If he is a commercial boat mover I would be reporting him to CRT. Yes and also the company that have employed him. If Aqualine get enough complaints about him then hopefully they will stop using him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pegg Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 hour ago, cuthound said: Yes and also the company that have employed him. If Aqualine get enough complaints about him then hopefully they will stop using him. But is it known the mover is employed by the builder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said: But is it known the mover is employed by the builder? Good point, I assumed that because the OP mentioned Aqualine it was being delivered to one of their customers. (I know assume makes as ass out of u and me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: Are they leaving both sets of gates open? 😀 I get asked once in a while why I mess about going in, closing the gates, then opening them at the opposite end. Why don't I just open all the gates and drive the boat straight through? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, MtB said: I get asked once in a while why I mess about going in, closing the gates, then opening them at the opposite end. Why don't I just open all the gates and drive the boat straight through? They sort of do this on the Nene in flood, except the bottom gates are a guillotine. I'm sure at least one boat has been through a set in this condition. If it survived the ride is another matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenA Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 9 hours ago, Arthur Marshall said: According to what's written on FaceAche, he doesn't suggest that other boats shouldn't close the gates, just that as he's a commercial boater he doesn't have to. I was waiting to hear that pathetic excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulJ Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, MtB said: I get asked once in a while why I mess about going in, closing the gates, then opening them at the opposite end. Why don't I just open all the gates and drive the boat straight through? 1 hour ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: They sort of do this on the Nene in flood, except the bottom gates are a guillotine. I'm sure at least one boat has been through a set in this condition. If it survived the ride is another matter! Do it on the Great Ouse too-this is just downstream to where I moor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 AIUI its only doable going upstream in a shorter boat. I think the guillotine is dropped once the boat is in the chamber. I may be wrong on this @Keeping Up will have more information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 13/05/2022 at 20:00, Tracy D'arth said: Why has no one walked up and chained the lock in front of them until they amend their bad behavior? Because that would affect everyone else who's trying to navigate in the area as well perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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