Dfasham Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Noticed a bit of discussion about this boat a few years ago. Some more recent pictures from the BCN. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 I want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 is she called wottapalava ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulD Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Is it a live aboard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Esk Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Effort for financial reward, probably not. Effort for personal satisfaction, immeasurable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Is it licensed...? Doesn't come up on the boat listing if Rivets 5000 is its name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, PaulD said: Is it a live aboard ? For some species, possibly. I like it. Can't be more that 3' 6" in width. Can't see much point in having a brass tiller when the wooden one seems more practical. What's the engine? Any one know? Think I would prefer a motorised skiff with overnight canopy. Must be fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave moore Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 I remember it being built by the Fashams in the late 60s. It used to pootle around rallies in those days. I think it lay in someone’s garden for a long time. If it’s been resurrected, I’m delighted. They also owned Dart in those days, an ex Thomas Clayton gas boat. All 3 brothers were clever engineers, Edwin still boats with Ferrous, a very distinctive craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split Pin Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 When it was possible to have it as a tender Edwin took it all over the system, once the licensing changed it was put into storage at the family home. If my memory is correct it was originally fitted with an LE Velocete engine. It is now fitted with a 2cl Kubota, Don't know how the licencing system updates but it probably has a one month licence to cover the BCN challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, Split Pin said: If my memory is correct it was originally fitted with an LE Velocete engine. It is now fitted with a 2cl Kubota, Remove the engine and get a Shetland pony to pull it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Thats a clever little boat. Took me a minute to realise that its in a narrow lock. Re. Ferrous I saw that donkeys years ago and that was a pretty clever big boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 44 minutes ago, Bee said: Re. Ferrous I saw that donkeys years ago and that was a pretty clever big boat We were on the BCN Challenge a few years ago, going up the Rushall flight until we got to the long pound which was well down and Fulbourne went hard aground. Ferrous came up the lock behind us, managed to get past and took us in tow. Given that it must have a lesser draft than Fulbourne there must be a pretty big prop behind Ferrous's 5LW. Because we were dragged along the rest of the pound at reasonable speed - shake, rattle and roll as we bounced our way over bricks, rocks and goodness knows what else. A good job we didn't know at the time quite how thin some of Fulbourne's bottom is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 I remember Rivets 5000 attending several IWA National Rallies in the 1960's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split Pin Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 2 hours ago, David Mack said: We were on the BCN Challenge a few years ago, going up the Rushall flight until we got to the long pound which was well down and Fulbourne went hard aground. Ferrous came up the lock behind us, managed to get past and took us in tow. Given that it must have a lesser draft than Fulbourne there must be a pretty big prop behind Ferrous's 5LW. Because we were dragged along the rest of the pound at reasonable speed - shake, rattle and roll as we bounced our way over bricks, rocks and goodness knows what else. A good job we didn't know at the time quite how thin some of Fulbourne's bottom is! Ferrous has a 24" X 20" prop. Edwin made a mould from an older Bolinder Blade which was probably ex Claytons of Oldbury. Then Cast his own propeller. Its driven by a 3LW and 1.5:1 gearbox so plenty of oomf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Fasham Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Derek R. said: For some species, possibly. I like it. Can't be more that 3' 6" in width. Can't see much point in having a brass tiller when the wooden one seems more practical. What's the engine? Any one know? Think I would prefer a motorised skiff with overnight canopy. Must be fun though. The brass one is scale and actually works better than the little one I knocked up to trial for the weekend. The little one works well for hard steering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dan Fasham Posted May 1, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Split Pin said: When it was possible to have it as a tender Edwin took it all over the system, once the licensing changed it was put into storage at the family home. If my memory is correct it was originally fitted with an LE Velocete engine. It is now fitted with a 2cl Kubota, Don't know how the licencing system updates but it probably has a one month licence to cover the BCN challenge. The original engine was an Austin 7 engine and gearbox the Velocette was a later power plant and then a petter. The Kubota is my creation coupled to a reliant regal box 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Fasham Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 4 hours ago, David Mack said: We were on the BCN Challenge a few years ago, going up the Rushall flight until we got to the long pound which was well down and Fulbourne went hard aground. Ferrous came up the lock behind us, managed to get past and took us in tow. Given that it must have a lesser draft than Fulbourne there must be a pretty big prop behind Ferrous's 5LW. Because we were dragged along the rest of the pound at reasonable speed - shake, rattle and roll as we bounced our way over bricks, rocks and goodness knows what else. A good job we didn't know at the time quite how thin some of Fulbourne's bottom is! Ferrous is running a 3lw and 24” prop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Crumbs thats impressive. As for casting your own propeller extracting the pattern from the mould can only be done with witchcraft or some sort of Hogwarts wizadry so far as I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Fasham Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Amazing foundryman and engineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Dan Fasham said: Ferrous is running a 3lw and 24” prop Only a 3LW. I'm sure someone told me it was a 5. More than enough for the job though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springy Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Bee said: Crumbs thats impressive. As for casting your own propeller extracting the pattern from the mould can only be done with witchcraft or some sort of Hogwarts wizadry so far as I can see. I thought that too, but a quick google found this video on you tube (somewhat smaller prop - I'd guess about 8 - 10 inches and smaller blade area), but its actually relatively straightforward for a skilled foundryman. Still needs a lot of careful work. And then you've still got to machine and balance it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Brilliant! Watched every second. remarkable. I like the way he just got on with it, with no pre ramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartland Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 I wonder how many Velocette engines had canal use. The Velocette was a Birmingham Motor cycle maker with a long history at different construction plants. Most will recall the final works at Hall Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 Hmm, I think that if I need a new propeller I shall just go out and buy one, incidentally there are some great videos on You tube about foundry work and engineering in India - sandals, terrible equipment and so on but fantastic ingenuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Bee said: engineering in India - sandals, terrible equipment I do hope they're Safety Sandals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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