Kalapattar Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Hi! Now we are free to cruise are we allowed to go from a tier 2 to a tier 3 area and vice versa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandering snail Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) The hire boats are doing that on the Shroppie. Edited December 16, 2020 by wandering snail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Kalapattar said: Hi! Now we are free to cruise are we allowed to go from a tier 2 to a tier 3 area and vice versa? CRT are suggesting that you don't cross area boundaries. We are aware that continuous cruisers may not be able to cruise their intended pattern because of the guidance to avoid leaving or entering tier 3 areas and we will look at this when reviewing licences – please don’t worry. We do ask that people continue to move within those areas to ensure everyone can access support, work and education, and that mooring space is shared. https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/safety-on-our-waterways/coronavirus/coronavirus-and-boating-faqs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Some people have to leave a tier 3 mooring for services, enter a tier 2 to turn round, and re-enter tier 3 to moor again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandering snail Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: CRT are suggesting that you don't cross area boundaries. We are aware that continuous cruisers may not be able to cruise their intended pattern because of the guidance to avoid leaving or entering tier 3 areas and we will look at this when reviewing licences – please don’t worry. We do ask that people continue to move within those areas to ensure everyone can access support, work and education, and that mooring space is shared. https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/safety-on-our-waterways/coronavirus/coronavirus-and-boating-faqs So why are hire boats allowed to do it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, wandering snail said: So why are hire boats allowed to do it?? Because it's guidance, not law. It cannot be enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Don't enter the Forbidden Zone! You'll never be able to leave. If you try the Tier 2 people will shun you. If you don't take the hint they will drive you back with torches and pitch forks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 CRT appear to be putting out conflicting information on this subject, not for the first time either during this crisis. According to a post on Facebook, CRT are saying that boaters in tier 3 are "to behave as they did during the lockdowns and do not have to move". This is still not saying things at all clearly (a CRT specialty) but I would interpret this as "essential journeys only". They say that the message on their website that requires CCers to keep moving actually only applies in tiers 1 and 2. I suspect they are trying to please everybody by saying that CCers do not have to move but without actually saying that hire and leisure boats should not move. ..............Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, matty40s said: Some people have to leave a tier 3 mooring for services, enter a tier 2 to turn round, and re-enter tier 3 to moor again..... The guidance I read does say that if you are in Tier 3 and have to enter tier 2 you should still follow tier 3 restrictions and vice versa if you are in tier 2 and have to go into tier 3 you follow tier 3 restrictions. Presumably the restrictions apart from not moving into or out of areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapattar Posted December 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Ok, thanks for your replies! We had coal boat delivery today which is a workboat, and have permission, so it’s a grey area really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Kalapattar said: Ok, thanks for your replies! We had coal boat delivery today which is a workboat, and have permission, so it’s a grey area really! I would imagine the lorry that delivered to our local supermarket came from a Tier 3 area. No different to a boat delivering supplies, just the scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: I would imagine the lorry that delivered to our local supermarket came from a Tier 3 area. No different to a boat delivering supplies, just the scale Both of which fall in the exception for work purposes - it's a bit difficult to deliver something without going there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapattar Posted December 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Also, a small chance of catching COVID cruising anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, TheBiscuits said: Both of which fall in the exception for work purposes - it's a bit difficult to deliver something without going there! That was my point, but I tend not to make them very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalboat Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 But what ARE the tiers? - When they were imposed we were told they would be reviewed on 16th December. Did that happen? If so, where do we find the results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boots Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, canalboat said: But what ARE the tiers? - When they were imposed we were told they would be reviewed on 16th December. Did that happen? If so, where do we find the results? Announcement expected circa 11:30 today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudds Lad Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, canalboat said: But what ARE the tiers? - When they were imposed we were told they would be reviewed on 16th December. Did that happen? If so, where do we find the results? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, canalboat said: But what ARE the tiers? - When they were imposed we were told they would be reviewed on 16th December. Did that happen? If so, where do we find the results? It confused me as well. What wasn't clear was that the review would happen on the 16th rather than the announcement being on the 16th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, canalboat said: But what ARE the tiers? - When they were imposed we were told they would be reviewed on 16th December. Did that happen? If so, where do we find the results? Well, now we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 With effect from 00.01 on Saturday 19th December 2020: Hertfordshire, Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Peterborough, Gosport, Havent, Hastings & Rother, Surrey (except Waverley) move into Tier 3. Bristol and North Somerset move down to Tier 2. Herefordshire moves down to Tier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, cuthound said: With effect from 00.01 on Saturday 19th December 2020: Hertfordshire, Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Peterborough, Gosport, Havent, Hastings & Rother, Surrey (except Waverley) move into Tier 3. Bristol and North Somerset move down to Tier 2. Herefordshire moves down to Tier 1 Which makes you wonder why Dorset with a lower "rolling rate" isn't dropped to tier 1 as well. There must be some logic in it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) https://mobile.twitter.com/CRTBoating/status/1339542156369948673 Confused by continuous cruising rules in the Covid Tier system? In a nut shell, if you and your boat are in a Tier 1 or 2 area it's business as usual but avoid entering a Tier 3 area. If you and your boat are in Tier 3 keep moving within Tier 3 but avoid moving outside. Edited December 17, 2020 by TheBiscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, cuthound said: With effect from 00.01 on Saturday 19th December 2020: Hertfordshire, Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Peterborough, Gosport, Havent, move into Tier 3. No, they haven't yet, but they're going to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jerra said: There must be some logic in it somewhere. You think? You can follow the science, which may well over react because it doesn't take into account the damage to the economy, etc, or you can apply political judgement taking into account the other factors, or you can blow about in the wind of social media in the hope of courting public opinion and eventual re-election. Edited December 17, 2020 by Sea Dog Sp about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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