Naughty Cal Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 12 hours ago, blackrose said: Continuous cruising; constant cruising, consistent cruising... Any other variations? How about controversial cruising? You missed out continuous mooring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Cruiser Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said: You missed out continuous mooring. I've heard the term piss taker as well, but I don't subscribe to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 I have just has a discussion with a lady on FB about losing the tax rebate on red diesel, she said it wont much difference to boaters as sh only uses £45 worth a year, I told her I use that much a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: I have just has a discussion with a lady on FB about losing the tax rebate on red diesel, she said it wont much difference to boaters as sh only uses £45 worth a year, I told her I use that much a week I use more than that in 4 hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 5 hours ago, mrsmelly said: most canal boaters don't really know very much about boats or the waterways at all, especially since most have never ventured off the canals. Fine. Too many canal boats on our rivers anyway. They were never meant for river work. I knew the River before I went near a canal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p6rob Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 19 hours ago, matty40s said: Are they interested in classic buses or should they just buy a tent..... Coincidentally Solihull is almost the perfect place for people interested in classic buses. There's the nearby Wythall Transport Museum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Chris Williams said: Fine. Too many canal boats on our rivers anyway. They were never meant for river work. I knew the River before I went near a canal. I dont know why that quoted me as I didnt print it? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikexx Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 4 hours ago, ditchcrawler said: I have just has a discussion with a lady on FB about losing the tax rebate on red diesel, she said it wont much difference to boaters as sh only uses £45 worth a year, I told her I use that much a week Assuming £45 is 45litres, and each litre has a calorific value of 10kWhr, you're burning 450kWhs of fuel, or continuous 2.7kW over the week. I might suspect that would be the case if it's several degrees outside, but I wouldn't have thought this rate of usage is typical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mikexx said: Assuming £45 is 45litres, and each litre has a calorific value of 10kWhr, you're burning 450kWhs of fuel, or continuous 2.7kW over the week. I might suspect that would be the case if it's several degrees outside, but I wouldn't have thought this rate of usage is typical? A typical NB will use 1.5/2.0 litres per hour at 3 mph. So her £45 (45 litres) will be 25 (ish) hours or 75 miles per annum. I use 10 litres per hour at 6mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 5 hours ago, The Welsh Cruiser said: I've heard the term piss taker as well, but I don't subscribe to that. no problem, you don't need to pay in order to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 4 hours ago, mrsmelly said: I dont know why that quoted me as I didnt print it? lol. Sorry, no excuse, - "Pay attention at the back"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mikexx said: Assuming £45 is 45litres, and each litre has a calorific value of 10kWhr, you're burning 450kWhs of fuel, or continuous 2.7kW over the week. I might suspect that would be the case if it's several degrees outside, but I wouldn't have thought this rate of usage is typical? If she is in a marina with shore power and a stove, then her useage could be zero, so 45Lts is appropriate. If she is a CC er then £45 is circa 40-60hrs motoring = 4 hrs/month ish= 2hrs every 14 days = 2-6 miles each time. Is that enough? That all assumes she hasnt got an ebersparky thingy. I too use significantly more than that on our NB and get quite surprised when having to fork out for £100+ to fill the tank. Edited February 27, 2019 by Dr Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CompairHolman Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 On 26/02/2019 at 04:46, Boater Sam said: What it will cost you to keep chasing your boat with public transport and your car would pay for a mooring. Having a permanent work location and CCing is not in the spirit of your licence to be on the canals. You will fall foul of the regulations at some point and it will serve you right for being such a ....................................... There is no such thing as " the spirit of a licence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Fuel consumption depends on all sorts of variables - Depth/width of water, load, wind, speed, etc. Jaguar used considerably less fuel at higher speed on the Thames than on the canals. Can't give exact figures, but the tank held around 70 gallons and that would last a couple of months. I won't tell you what it cost in those days! Worst was being fully loaded on a badly silted canal - just keep her moving, never mind speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, CompairHolman said: There is no such thing as " the spirit of a licence". A succubus is a licentious spirit, though. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boater Sam Posted February 28, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, CompairHolman said: There is no such thing as " the spirit of a licence". There should be. Its called being thoughtful, considerate and not getting up anyone's nose. Entering into the spirit of being a boater on the canals then. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Boater Sam said: There should be. Its called being thoughtful, considerate and not getting up anyone's nose. Entering into the spirit of being a boater on the canals then. An alien concept to much of today's society. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Cruiser Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Boater Sam said: There should be. Its called being thoughtful, considerate and not getting up anyone's nose. Entering into the spirit of being a boater on the canals then. I'm sure it's quite possible to do all of those things alongside holding down a job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, The Welsh Cruiser said: I'm sure it's quite possible to do all of those things alongside holding down a job. Not if you're a traffic warden it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, matty40s said: Not if you're a traffic warden it isn't. Or the tax man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Seems that for many, the spirit of a licence or the spirit of being a boater is everyone doing exactly the same thing as them. If someone wants to cc around Solihull and they meet the minimum requirements set by CRT, then what harm are they doing? And why would anyone else care? TBH I'm sick of hearing this nonsense from other boaters saying stuff like you have to be convering the whole canal network, and "I use £45 of diesel a week/day/hour". It's always men, and it looks a lot like willy waving. Why would people be competitive about how far they move, or how much diesel they burn? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, doratheexplorer said: Seems that for many, the spirit of a licence or the spirit of being a boater is everyone doing exactly the same thing as them. If someone wants to cc around Solihull and they meet the minimum requirements set by CRT, then what harm are they doing? And why would anyone else care? TBH I'm sick of hearing this nonsense from other boaters saying stuff like you have to be convering the whole canal network, and "I use £45 of diesel a week/day/hour". It's always men, and it looks a lot like willy waving. Why would people be competitive about how far they move, or how much diesel they burn? They are doing no harm, if they stick to the guidelines and the terms and conditions of their licence. The trouble is that there are a growing number who don't and see CCing (or in some cases just camping in the same spot for months on end) as a cheap way to do what they want, when they want. It is those that will eventually become a problem to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doratheexplorer Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said: They are doing no harm, if they stick to the guidelines and the terms and conditions of their licence. The trouble is that there are a growing number who don't and see CCing (or in some cases just camping in the same spot for months on end) as a cheap way to do what they want, when they want. It is those that will eventually become a problem to everyone. I get that, but some people seem to think they should be moving far more than the guidelines say. Those lot at the IWA included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 21 hours ago, p6rob said: As far as I know, there's a warden in a portakabin. Perhaps someone who moors there can be more accurate... Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 50 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said: Or the tax man. I resemble that remark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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