GUMPY Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 This arrived today very well made and only £17 inc postage Available in other designs from eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332319138721 No connection just a customer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Thanks for the steer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jddevel Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Got one too couple of days ago. Now got to find something long enough to knock the locking wedge in!! Broom handle a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 To be honest they are to cheap, couple of quid postage and how many hours work? Great item mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 10 hours ago, jddevel said: Got one too couple of days ago. Now got to find something long enough to knock the locking wedge in!! Broom handle a possibility. Yes use a broom handle. Swerving off tangentially, no matter how hard you whack it in, I predict it will come loose again. This has been my experience anyway, on a long series of boats. I blame variations in temperature and humidity. How does the team here keep their wedges in place, and their handles tight in the tiller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 You could always put a screw in it.... Simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jddevel Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Interesting Mike. Wonder if as it`s wood it will expand-wet, shrink dry out whether besides a screw a sealant such as my much loved LSX will stop capillary action between wood and the tube? The handle has two rubber "o" rings but I`m sure they will inevitable wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Mike the Boilerman said: How does the team here keep their wedges in place, and their handles tight in the tiller? No wedge, just a bit of self amalgamating tape. Works a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 51 minutes ago, rusty69 said: You could always put a screw in it.... Simples The whole point of the wedge fixing is that it is invisible. Avoids using a screw, the head of which gets very irritating to keep feeling when steering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: The whole point of the wedge fixing is that it is invisible. Avoids using a screw, the head of which gets very irritating to keep feeling when steering. Some kind of countersink possibly. Besides, you won't feel a screw if you are holding the handle Edited August 5, 2017 by rusty69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: No wedge, just a bit of self amalgamating tape. Works a treat. Errr.... where do you put this tape??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 15 hours ago, Loddon said: This arrived today very well made and only £17 inc postage Available in other designs from eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332319138721 No connection just a customer That's a little gauche for my taste I'm afraid.....probably ok for those sorts who hang the stern rope over the tiller pin..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Mike the Boilerman said: The whole point of the wedge fixing is that it is invisible. Avoids using a screw, the head of which gets very irritating to keep feeling when steering. Shouldn't your hand be on the wooden bit, not the metal bit ? funnily enough as I was steering Sickle a couple of days ago, I looked down and spotted a screw behind me on the deck. Guess where it had just fallen out of! Acouple of extra match sticks to reduce the size of the hole it should now be good again for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, frangar said: That's a little gauche for my taste I'm afraid.....probably ok for those sorts who hang the stern rope over the tiller pin..... They are very pretty but I think the same as you. A bit showy. I would however, be more concerned they might break in use. My tiller needs serous effort applying when maneuvering the boat about. Look how this handle is constructed inside: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Errr.... where do you put this tape??! Just a few tight turns around the recessed part of the insertable bit til it's an interference fit then twist the handle in. Worked on mine at least, although it doesn't have a fancy/traditional slot for a wedge. They didn't have self amalgamating tape in't old days though, hence the wedge I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philjw Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 If you have a mooring pin with no extras like rope loops, drop it head end down into the tube onto the wedge then bounce the whole lot up and down a few times so the pin acts as a hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Used my tiller pin on the wedge last week. Tightened it up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, philjw said: If you have a mooring pin with no extras like rope loops, drop it head end down into the tube onto the wedge then bounce the whole lot up and down a few times so the pin acts as a hammer. That's a good idea. The rope loop soon falls off a mooring pin anyway once hammered in a few dozen times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 The wooden tiller end on Owl has no wedge, no tape, nothing fancy. Every so often it works a bit loose so a quick dip in the cut and the wood swells and keeps it firmly in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Alan W Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Yes use a broom handle. Swerving off tangentially, no matter how hard you whack it in, I predict it will come loose again. This has been my experience anyway, on a long series of boats. I blame variations in temperature and humidity. How does the team here keep their wedges in place, and their handles tight in the tiller? The back in the day method when tied up for the night tie a piece of cord through the tiller pin hole& suspend between the boats with the wood part in the cut. Looking at the OP though that end is much to posh for that method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard10002 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 hours ago, rusty69 said: You could always put a screw in it.... Simples +1 My handle has been loose for ages and have been meaning to drill and screw for as long... did it a couple of weeks ago, took 5 minutes, and haven't noticed the screw since. I had never heard of the wedge means of tightening, and there is no slot in my handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furnessvale Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 On 05/08/2017 at 06:31, Mike the Boilerman said: Yes use a broom handle. Swerving off tangentially, no matter how hard you whack it in, I predict it will come loose again. This has been my experience anyway, on a long series of boats. I blame variations in temperature and humidity. How does the team here keep their wedges in place, and their handles tight in the tiller? Fit the whole thing good and tight when dry, then pour linseed oil down the hollow shaft and leave to soak in for a few days. Repeat as necessary every 5 years or so. George 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 On 05/08/2017 at 08:38, Mike the Boilerman said: They are very pretty but I think the same as you. A bit showy. I would however, be more concerned they might break in use. My tiller needs serous effort applying when maneuvering the boat about. Look how this handle is constructed inside: Yes, I would rather just have a single solid piece of wood without all that unnecessary decorative embellishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, blackrose said: Yes, I would rather just have a single solid piece of wood without all that unnecessary decorative embellishment. More to the point, the handle is only as strong as that armature in the centre, about half the diameter of an uncut handle. If a handle breaks while one is applying some serious force to it (i.e. not a modern girlie boat with a such a large flight on the rudder no effort is needed to turen the tiller), then one is in serious danger of taking a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Made by an ex working boater in traditional style. Edited August 6, 2017 by Ray T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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