nicknorman Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Yes, it is defined in the byelaw: - 79 (2) In this byelaw : ( b ) “power-driven” means driven by the combustion of petrol vapour or other combustible vapour of other combustible substances. Thanks. Clearly the bylaw is a bit behind the times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Brother in law was at Chirk today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Awesome video! Just needs a boat passing through. Ahhh in spirit of the forum, did you kill anyone whilst flying it? Shame on you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Brother in law was at Chirk today https://youtu.be/98WyOg_EhyQ Is it just me, but does anyone feel woosey when watching video shot from a drone? Other airborne methods don't seem to have that effect on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Try VR, had a go on my brothers PlayStation last week, star wars game was awesome but after ten minutes I felt sick.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Try VR, had a go on my brothers PlayStation last week, star wars game was awesome but after ten minutes I felt sick.. I think in the linked video, it was because the operator moved the camera that wasn't in line with the flight with kind of remote control of the video that feels unnatural. Where other airbourne video I'm guessing is held directly by a human so the movement feels natural? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Brother in law was at Chirk today I hope he had permission from Network Rail to overfly the tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I hope he had permission from Network Rail to overfly the tracks. Did he crash and kill people.... Thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Did he crash and kill people.... Thought not. No clearly not. However I think you and a few other people fail to grasp the issue. Sure, it is fairly unlikely that the drone will crash into someone or something and kill them. But the point is that the act is illegal and thus if anything goes wrong, the drone operator will most likely be prosecuted. Just look at the people walking along the aqueduct towpath and looking up at the drone. Let's say that whilst looking up at the drone, one of them walked into the canal and was either injured or possibly drowned. As soon as the other person cited the drone as being the distraction, the drone operator would be hunted down and if caught, prosecuted under the Air Navigation Order. No doubt they are looking to make examples of folk at the moment. I would liken it to having a car accident whilst slightly over the drink drive limit. Even if the accident was totally not the fault of that driver, and unavoidable even for a sober driver, they would likely be considered to blame and certainly prosecuted for drink driving. At the very least, I do hope that the people operating these drones illegally are at least aware that they are breaking the law and are prepared to take that risk. If so - fair enough but if you do the crime you have to be prepared to serve the time! But I think more likely, they have foolishly convinced themselves that they are doing nothing wrong. Eventually the penny will drop. Edited January 5, 2017 by nicknorman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard10002 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Very HD. Quite amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 No clearly not. However I think you and a few other people fail to grasp the issue. Sure, it is fairly unlikely that the drone will crash into someone or something and kill them. But the point is that the act is illegal and thus if anything goes wrong, the drone operator will most likely be prosecuted. Just look at the people walking along the aqueduct towpath and looking up at the drone. Let's say that whilst looking up at the drone, one of them walked into the canal and was either injured or possibly drowned. As soon as the other person cited the drone as being the distraction, the drone operator would be hunted down and if caught, prosecuted under the Air Navigation Order. No doubt they are looking to make examples of folk at the moment. I would liken it to having a car accident whilst slightly over the drink drive limit. Even if the accident was totally not the fault of that driver, and unavoidable even for a sober driver, they would likely be considered to blame and certainly prosecuted for drink driving. At the very least, I do hope that the people operating these drones illegally are at least aware that they are breaking the law and are prepared to take that risk. If so - fair enough but if you do the crime you have to be prepared to serve the time! But I think more likely, they have foolishly convinced themselves that they are doing nothing wrong. Eventually the penny will drop. You say it so much better than I do but I was just trying to compose something along those lines. P.s. We saw you pass through Alrewas on Christmas Eve but you were gone before I remembered why the name Telemachus was familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Did he crash and kill people.... Thought not. I presume therefore that you are happy to condone illegal acts? I suggest you read the Regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I suggest I won't, life's too short and all that. Matty,top video, shared on my twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 It amazes me that so many boaters get really uptight when CRT do something they consider against the law but cheerfully disregard those they don't agree with or restrict what they want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) I suggest I won't, life's too short and all that. Matty,top video, shared on my twitter. Reminds me a bit of the bikers who post videos of themselves doing wheelies / driving at 150mph on YouTube, and then are surprised when the police come knocking. Once again it is unlikely that the drone video it will come to the attention of the police but if it does... But what is certain is that someday soon, someone will be prosecuted as a result of drone footage published on social media. Edited January 6, 2017 by nicknorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 While the views from a drone are interesting, I was a bit concerned about the effect on the people on the aqueduct and on the sheep below which seemed to run off at speed when they heard/saw the drone. This is the time of year when ewes are in lamb and to frighten them and cause them to run can result in an abortion. Not good news if you are the farmer. haggis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Currently BTP are pursuing about half a dozen incidents of drone use on or near railways, and there have now been 2 cases where trains have been hit by drones. BTP now regularly check YouTube, Twitter and the Drone forums for evidence, so well done for sharing it Mr Payne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 If a drone falls in a Congested Area and there is no-one around to hear it, does it make a sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 If a drone falls in a Congested Area and there is no-one around to hear it, does it make a sound? I think that depends on whether it was a man or a woman who wasn't there to hear it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 It's OK. I said I've changed my mind and I'm not getting one. I'll just sit on top of the boat and quietly get on with my trombone practice. Good man. Nothing wrong with a bit of sludge blowing (I grew up with one of your lot in the house!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) I think that depends on whether it was a man or a woman who wasn't there to hear it... well, OK, assume it's a woman who wasn't there. what's the answer? Edited January 6, 2017 by Murflynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 well, OK, assume it's a woman who wasn't there. what's the answer? The man was would have ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (Sound of one hand clapping.....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Lewis Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Canals from a drone: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34417231 Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain_S Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (Sound of one hand clapping.....) cl ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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