Keeping Up Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Mine's on the keyring with the door keys. That means that when I'm about to leave the boat I'm standing by the switch and that reminds me to take the keys with me. That way there is much less chance of locking myself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I have a spare ignition key hidden in the boat. I keep the main one on the "bunch" so it goes with me, largely to stop people taking my boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar Gypsy Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I think the weed hatch is the main issue: removing the keys give three lines of defence to prevent unplanned amputation. Hot wiring a narrowboat is not exactly hard - turn the isoloator on and apply a screwdriver to the starter solenoid (or fiddle with the wires behind the key switch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Engine key? What's one of those? Picture of one for you Jim... MtB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamYam Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Picture of one for you Jim... MtB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 It has quite a lot in common with a 'lock key' doesn't it?! MtB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 It has quite a lot in common with a 'lock key' doesn't it?! MtB I thought they were all shiny aluminium these days. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 In the eight years I have had my boat I have never removed my engine key from the ignition switch. It is not attached to any other key. It is simply used as a switch. A. Do you remove your key? B. Do you hide it in the boat? C. Do you have it on your 'main' bunch and take it with you when you leave your boat. D. If the answer to 'C' is yes, why do you do that? I just use it as a switch, if they have got that far its easy to start with a screwdriver, so whats the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrunch Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 We all know insurance companies will get out of a claim if they can and leaving the key in the ignition in my view is just asking for trouble. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidoDido Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 The manual for my engine states the ignition key should not be removed! I always leave it in. Good idea to remove it when down the hatch. Then again, would be fairly obvious from a pair of legs dangling from where the drivers step should be that there is someone down the hatch! Then again, stops some opportune psychopath from having some fun... Think I'll start to remove it, if only to remind me the weed hatch is off if I crawl out for some air, and go and have a cuppa to calm down... Who the bleeding heck designed this weed hatch arrangement?.... Mr Edgson, it's a fine boat, but FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pykebird Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I leave mine in the ignition, only have one key. If someone gets past the "trip hazard" and "security", fair play. But mine is a trad and it can be a bit difficult to even open the back door once unlocked due to a large head stuck in the cat flap, let alone reach in and get the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie patrick Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 No key - no preheaters either Lutine has a lister SR2 and a switch in the cabin, two switches actually, ignition and start Juno has a button on the outboard to start and a button on the dash to stop: when I first fitted that engine she only had a start button... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J R ALSOP Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Key been left in ignition switch for 35years (only seems like yesterday when it went in for first time). If it gets lost I have about 10 others, or I could use a screwdriver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettie Boo Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Picture of one for you Jim... MtB Do you have a pic of the key chain you have that attached to? I leave mine in the ignition, only have one key. If someone gets past the "trip hazard" and "security", fair play. But mine is a trad and it can be a bit difficult to even open the back door once unlocked due to a large head stuck in the cat flap, let alone reach in and get the key. Is that poor dog still stuck in the cat flap? Poor pup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maffi Posted May 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 " Egress" As you say, exit, i did mean entry!. A senior moment, like mislaying your keys. Oh most certainly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I just use it as a switch, if they have got that far its easy to start with a screwdriver, so whats the point. I just use it as a switch, if they have got that far its easy to start with a screwdriver, so whats the point. THat does assume that whatever lowlife is breaking in knows how to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHutch Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Always remove the key, same with my car.I often leave the keys in the car.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) I often leave the keys in the car....Yes, but you have a very secure parking space Edited May 21, 2014 by FadeToScarlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maffi Posted May 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) If the ignition switch is in a position where the key could get bashed it's better to remove the key. It would be a pain if the broken part of the key got stuck in the lock. Ah yes but mine isn't! Edited May 21, 2014 by Maffi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Maffi - - Surely the simplest, and most effective way to avoid losing your engine key,( again), is to put it on a keyring with another key that you never lose.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maffi Posted May 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Ah but I never lose my engine key I always know its there where I left it and the spare is inside that cupboard Edited May 21, 2014 by Maffi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) I often leave the keys in the car.... Where do you park your car as I have mislaid my information. Fab car I want one. Edited May 22, 2014 by Laurie.Booth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 THat does assume that whatever lowlife is breaking in knows how to. They will now if they have read this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I take the key and lie it beside the ignition switch. I then put a little red cap on the ignition switch with :sea cock: written on it. The engine is cooled indirectly by canal/river water so I need to remember to turn the sea cock on or off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maffi Posted December 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Just found this post again. I never thought for one minute when I asked the question that anyone with an outside control panel would leave the key in. However I do find it odd that people take the key away from the boat (unlike a car where the key is more often than not used to lock up. Anyone who thinks that if an oik ripped off the padlock he would then have easy access to the key and start the boat might like to think about their security. A lot of locks can be removed with a brick or mooring pin. I find it odd that some very cheap padlocks adorn hasp on narrow boats. It is quite possible that a determined perp would just kick the windows in. I very much doubt they would get in through my doors. I am the sort of person whose bicycle lock is worth more than his bicycle. Not because its worth saving but I just cant be bothered with the inconvenience to having it nicked. I do have on my slide an ABUS disc lock. Last year I helped a couple who had locked themselves out of their boat. They had a disc lock. Even with an angle grinder it took us nearly half an hour to cut it off. Jolly good design those ABUS locks. I also have a similar lock on the front door. One would think with everything that I own being on the boat I would be careful about my own security and generally I am but I do tend to leave the side hatch open from time to time. This is not such a big deal when its on the wet side, but it is quite a big deal when it is on the dry side. Doh! Edited December 5, 2014 by Maffi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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