Historic Boats for sale online

[noddyboater]

2 hours ago, Paul H said:

Has it been sold?  … or is it just no longer advertised?
 

Paul

Not sold, just taken off the market. 

[ditchcrawler]

[MtB]

Spelling it "Bantoch", then"Banntock"?

 

I suspect this seller doesn't really know much about his boat. 

 

Nice looking shell but a BMC? Shame about the bus windows, too! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 21, 2023 by MtB

[David Mack]

3 hours ago, MtB said:

 

Nice looking shell but a BMC? Shame about the bus windows, too! 

Agreed! Lovely bows. From DC's screenshot I can't really see how good the rest of the shell is. But a nice project boat if the hull is sound.

[magnetman]

Its quite a nice boat. They kept the good bits of the front and as I recall the stern was quite well executed as well. As long as it is narrow it seems a nice boat for someone. 

 

Nothing wrong with a good BMC diesel engine in a boat. 

 

Ideally originally having been a horse boat it should be electric for the quiet. 

 

 

Very narrow gunnels there. 

[Tonka]

9 hours ago, magnetman said:

Its quite a nice boat. They kept the good bits of the front and as I recall the stern was quite well executed as well. As long as it is narrow it seems a nice boat for someone. 

 

Nothing wrong with a good BMC diesel engine in a boat. 

 

Ideally originally having been a horse boat it should be electric for the quiet. 

 

 

Very narrow gunnels there. 

Isn't @Goliath a Bantock with a BMC engine

[magnetman]

Goliath is definitely a Bantock fore end not sure what engine. 

 

Lovely bows on those boats. I briefly owned a full length motorised horse boat with both original ends still on it. Same bows 'Mark 1 Bantock'. 

Beautiful boat as I understand it its still in one piece and turned out to be one of the earliest motorised narrow boats. 

 

I couldn't face putting a steel top on it as it would spoil it too much. I think its at Roger Fuller's yard unconverted currently. Saved from the gas axe. 

 

 

 

 

I put this cabin on it. Obviously it was too much of a shed but it was quite nice in a way. Plywood under covers. 

 

Big Petter Air cooled 4 in there and original wooden elum on the back. A majestic boat that was. 

 

 

 

 

Yes my cabin was a bodge. Not a craftsman !!! 

Better than ruining it with a steel lid though. 

 

 

 

[MtB]

 

 

1 hour ago, magnetman said:

 

 

 

Yes my cabin was a bodge. Not a craftsman !!! 

Better than ruining it with a steel lid though. 

 

 

Hey there's a railway on that dock! Do trains still run on it?

 

Where is it?!

 

 

Edited August 21, 2023 by MtB

[stagedamager]

Roger fullers yard in Stone.

[Rob-M]

3 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

 

 

Hey there's a railway on that dock! Do trains still run on it?

 

Where is it?!

 

 

There is a good YouTube video of them running trains round the yard.

[Tim Lewis]

1 hour ago, Rob-M said:

There is a good YouTube video of them running trains round the yard.

 

 

[magnetman]

One day all these things will be electric. 

[alan_fincher]

6 hours ago, Tim Lewis said:

 

 

 

On watching that right through, I suggest it is hard to claim that typical members of the historic narrow  boating community are actually of sound mind!

 

I particularly liked the Fuller twins in charge of the pump trolley and then later the double headed diesels.

 

I think I knew which was roger, and which  Martin, but I certainly am not 100% definite.

[zenataomm]

It's very easy to tell the difference between the Fuller twins.

One is handsome and the other isn't.

[Ray T]

15 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

On watching that right through, I suggest it is hard to claim that typical members of the historic narrow  boating community are actually of sound mind!

 

I particularly liked the Fuller twins in charge of the pump trolley and then later the double headed diesels.

 

I think I knew which was roger, and which  Martin, but I certainly am not 100% definite.

I was chatting to one of the brothers last November at Glascote Yard and on enquiring which of the brothers I was talking to the reply, “I’m Roger today, I might be Martin tomorrow.”

 

Edited August 22, 2023 by Ray T

[James Owen]

11 hours ago, zenataomm said:

It's very easy to tell the difference between the Fuller twins.

One is handsome and the other isn't.

I was once told the easiest way to tell which is which was to look into their eyes... Roger's were ££ signs 😁

[DShK]

Without being too direct about which one, I went to see a boat posted here a couple of months ago (large woolwich at braunston - not badsey). Beautiful boat. I fell in love instantly. I was ready to go through the heartache of selling my first boat.

 

But I continued my due diligence. Everything was seeming fine until I found the first bilge access hatch. It had recently been painted over so it was hard to get up but I managed it (I'm glad these proper brokers just give you the keys and let you do what you need to do). It was wet. I then found the access at the bulkhead between the front and rear bilges. Full of water. Not what you want to see, as you begin to question how long it might have been rotting from the inside.

 

I then go back into the beautiful (recently painted) engine room. I find my way into that bilge. Literally a sump full of oil in there. Given that the info I can find online seems to suggest this JP2 was probably last rebuilt in the 80s, I think it's probably given up.

 

The boat was for sale a couple of years ago, so I wonder if the current owners got in over their heads, slapped a coat of paint on the thing and are trying to recoup their money. But one wonders why they wouldn't mop up those messes - unless the leaks are so bad that it's happened while it's sat on brokerage.

 

These things are sortable, but the current price is not reflective of that. I'm not sure they would take well to being offered 20k less (at this point)

 

But I am now certain that I am after a large guccc undercloth conversion. Anyone want to sell me one? 🙃 I'd entertain going to see Cyprus but it'd be a real shame to split it up from it's original butty....

Edited August 22, 2023 by DShK

[stagedamager]

Chiswick?

[James Owen]

10 minutes ago, stagedamager said:

Chiswick?

Fresh horses!!!

[magnetman]

Not under cloths but that Bognor out of water on the Lea might be interesting. 

 

The owner took it as payment for some work. Needs close looking at but if it was cheap it might be a deconversion candidate if you want under cloths conversion. 

 

I'd keep the cabin in fact I'd quite like to shorten it to 45-50ft and make a tug.

 

Not sure how good a big boat would be for that though. 

[DShK]

8 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Not under cloths but that Bognor out of water on the Lea might be interesting. 

 

The owner took it as payment for some work. Needs close looking at but if it was cheap it might be a deconversion candidate if you want under cloths conversion. 

 

I'd keep the cabin in fact I'd quite like to shorten it to 45-50ft and make a tug.

 

Not sure how good a big boat would be for that though. 

 

I do feel a connection with Bognor because that's actually my hometown! But I am not sure I have pockets deep enough to fully fit out a boat, new engine and all (no way I'd attempt to do it myself!). Maybe if it was more or less free! But also, I can see that taking a good few years to do, which would be years I wouldn't be boating...

Edited August 22, 2023 by DShK

[alan_fincher]

1 hour ago, DShK said:

 

But I am now certain that I am after a large woolwich undercloth conversion. Anyone want to sell me one? 🙃 I'd entertain going to see Cyprus but it'd be a real shame to split it up from it's original butty...

 

So actually neither does it have to be a "large" boat, nor does it have to be a Woolwich!

[DShK]

7 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

 

So actually neither does it have to be a "large" boat, nor does it have to be a Woolwich!

I knew I was going to get called out on that!

 

Out of curiosity, anyone have an idea how much refooting a boat like that would roughly cost? (Can that be done without stripping out the interior?) How about removing, rebuilding and refitting a JP2? Because if that was factored into an offer, Chiswick would be a beautiful boat to own...

[Francis Herne]

3 hours ago, magnetman said:

I'd keep the cabin in fact I'd quite like to shorten it to 45-50ft and make a tug.

 

Not sure how good a big boat would be for that though. 

Sudbury was cut down to a 40ft tug, looks a bit odd to my eyes, but has spent 50 years like that so must work alright.

[alan_fincher]

2 hours ago, Francis Herne said:

Sudbury was cut down to a 40ft tug, looks a bit odd to my eyes, but has spent 50 years like that so must work alright.

 

I'm no expert, but doubt Sudbury has had its current appearance for 50 years.  That would imply 1973 - probably not long after the trashed boats were removed from the Wendover arm.

 

Whilst the shortening was probably carried out by British Waterways in the 1970s, the current cabin was not applied to it until after it had been sold into private ownership.  I had a longish conversation with the owner that had it put on, and do understand why it is not strictly "Large Northwich"