Ogwr Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 I beleive the Yarmouth was shortened by a Mr. C.H. Taplin and renamed Golden Valley at that time. He was an early IWA member and was involved in the Lower Avon Restoration . He kept the boat on the Avon for many years, he had a company that carried out chassis conversions so the commander would make sense.. The company also built several steel narrow boat hulls in about 1966 onwards. Probably finishing production when builders began constructing their own shells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 On Facebook Narrowboats For Sale UK | Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Yes it is interesting. We had it on here a few weeks ago. Seems a good price there must be an achilles heel (other than the shocking state of the interior!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Yarmouth new price £50,000 Yarmouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilllearning Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 26 minutes ago, Admiral said: Yarmouth new price £50,000 Yarmouth Very nice boat at a sensible price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 (edited) Yarmouth is a lovely boat. Of course being really quite old there could be some issues. Not sure if or when it had major hull works but if my memory is working the front 80 percent of it is an old horse boat. Very nice item. ETA 1914 and rebuilt by Roger Farringdon in 1986 according to the ad. Probably alright then. Edited August 3 by magnetman correct name of fabricator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted August 3 Author Report Share Posted August 3 On 01/08/2023 at 14:33, magnetman said: Yes it is interesting. We had it on here a few weeks ago. Seems a good price there must be an achilles heel (other than the shocking state of the interior!) I don't think there has been any price change - £35K when last discussed -£35K now. A famous British monarch uttered the memorable words "Bugger Bognor" - presumably that interior was the result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 (edited) YARMOUTH had extensive new steel in 1986, including an 18' swim, all new footings, steel bulkheads to keep the side straight, a 10mm steel bottom replacing the previous worn Elm, and a fully fitted back cabin by the Late Chris Lloyd. The internal bottoms and 3" angle iron bottom frames were treated with waxoyl, laid upon which was roofing felt, onto which was placed heaven knows how many paving slabs for ballast. The entire sides and roof were spray foamed. The new (back then) Classic stove was treated to having its oven door chromium plated, suggested by Chris, as a bit of 'boatman's bling'. She was our cosy home for ten years. Seeing her again I am tempted, but we are too well established on the land with 'animals', to restart another period of boating. And things are never the same when you go back to something you once knew so well. 1984: With plywood sides on inch square tubular framing, a steel 'coach' like top with rooftop water tank, and two inch wide gunnels. Powered by a BMC 2.2 diesel. In that trim, we took on the Thames, Wey, right up and across the Pennines, up the Trent from Keadby. Got well stuck in one of the bottom locks going down Napton due to spread, got helped out by Esme, the lengthsman, who flushed us out big time. Braunston '86. Hammering it, on the Stainforth & Keadby '88 - Petter Power. 1991 Edited August 3 by Derek R. typo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Cor, Mr Farrington doesn't change much. I think he's even still wearing the same 'at. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Does he get his surname misspelled much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrowcycles Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186016588482?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=o-NNKIfOS0G&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=zAHicM3sQmO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Cheap prop if anyone is interested. Nothing to do with me by the way. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 15 hours ago, magnetman said: Yarmouth is a lovely boat. Of course being really quite old there could be some issues. Not sure if or when it had major hull works but if my memory is working the front 80 percent of it is an old horse boat. Very nice item. ETA 1914 and rebuilt by Roger Farringdon in 1986 according to the ad. Probably alright then. I’d be more worried about the 80s steel - some of the boats in the UCC fleet built at this yard at a similar time have had to be re footed. There is also I believe the potential for galvanic action between the iron and steel with the steel corroding. On my last boat the iron sides were near perfect but the steel bottom was beginning to show pitting. There are also other visible issues with Yarmouth like the disintegrating wooden doors - not a big issue but perhaps an indication of how much maintenance it has received over the years. Still tempted though! Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 3 hours ago, Paul H said: I’d be more worried about the 80s steel - some of the boats in the UCC fleet built at this yard at a similar time have had to be re footed. There is also I believe the potential for galvanic action between the iron and steel with the steel corroding. On my last boat the iron sides were near perfect but the steel bottom was beginning to show pitting. There are also other visible issues with Yarmouth like the disintegrating wooden doors - not a big issue but perhaps an indication of how much maintenance it has received over the years. Still tempted though! Paul All the same, anyone contemplating buying BOGNOR for £35k would do well to consider adding £15k and buying YARMOUTH instead. Far better value for money IMO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Herne Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 1900 Humber Sloop, "Annie Barraclough": https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/boat/1900-humber-sloop-8967831/ Iron hull, 72' x 15', Gardner 6LW otherwise mostly an empty shell. £30k. Lots of space on the inside, but quite limited in where it can go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, MtB said: All the same, anyone contemplating buying BOGNOR for £35k would do well to consider adding £15k and buying YARMOUTH instead. Far better value for money IMO! It's as valid a viewpoint as any other I guess. However purchase of Bognor gives you the hull of a full length Grand Union Canal Carrying Co motor boat. Purchase of Yarmouth gives you what was originally an ex Fellows Morton & Clayton horse boat, subsequently shortened and rebuilt at the back end to have a motor counter. Clearly thiugh Yarmouth's JP2 trounces the unsuitable engine in Bognor though. It depends what you want - there are plenty of people interested in a converted historic boat who would probably not be interested in either of these. I believe this is a price drop since I last looked -apologies if it has already been recorded. Note also that David now explicitly states that he is prepared to split the pair. Cyprus and Cedar Edited August 4 by alan_fincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 Landlocked PAVO for sale again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 13 minutes ago, Ray T said: Landlocked PAVO for sale again. You could do a roaring trade in Special brew in those parts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Brightley Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 FMC Tasmania, 60ft, £74,950. https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/yarwoods-60-traditional-for-sale/740106 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 How much of that is 'old'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted August 12 Author Report Share Posted August 12 On 11/08/2023 at 13:54, John Brightley said: FMC Tasmania, 60ft, £74,950. https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/yarwoods-60-traditional-for-sale/740106 I used to have quite a soft spot for TASMANIA - quite an admission, as I am firmly a "Grand Union" fan! But that was when it was much shorter, (probably 40 feet I think), and had a lovely old Lister (probably an FR2, though I might be mis-rememberng). Subsequent re-lengthenings have removed much of it's appeal for me and it is now too much new build, and not enough ex FMC horseboat. We spent a day boating alongside TASMANIA sharing locks with our FLAMINGO as we attempted the Rochdale from Manchester to Hebden Bridge. I have to concede that TASMANIA was a lot shallower draughted than FLAMINGO, and also narrower beam, so encountered less problems on a"difficult" canal. One oddity of TASMANIA, (obvious in those photos), is that the exhaust goes out through the hull side. It was the preference of the owner not to breathe in exhaust from a vertical pipe on the roof. However being on the wrong side in a shared lock was not present. Apart from which it just seems plain wrong. 9 minutes ago, junior said: How much of that is 'old'? Absolute maximum 40 feet - given that Braine would often put an entirely new counter stern on, with little attempt to use as much original iron as possible, probably quite a bit less than 40'. If Pete Harrison sees this post, I would be grateful for correction of anything I have got wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShK Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 Badsey is for sale again. I was briefly tempted to consider buying her. But I believe it's a wooden topped boat - not really excited by the problems that will entail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted August 16 Author Report Share Posted August 16 14 minutes ago, DShK said: Badsey is for sale again. I was briefly tempted to consider buying her. But I believe it's a wooden topped boat - not really excited by the problems that will entail. Id be more concerned about all that "SHOUTY" text" that implies that the vendor is looking for something other than a straight you agree a price, pay it, and it is yours. No doubt Mr Lauder thinks he has been clear, but I can't help thinking I can't be the only one who doesn't really understand what he is suggesting (or why?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrenroberts Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 18 minutes ago, DShK said: Badsey is for sale again. I was briefly tempted to consider buying her. But I believe it's a wooden topped boat - not really excited by the problems that will entail. the wooden top didn't look bad when it was on slip a few weeks ago bit of patching in round the gunnel maybe..... nice boat tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShK Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 (edited) 21 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: Id be more concerned about all that "SHOUTY" text" that implies that the vendor is looking for something other than a straight you agree a price, pay it, and it is yours. No doubt Mr Lauder thinks he has been clear, but I can't help thinking I can't be the only one who doesn't really understand what he is suggesting (or why?). You do have to wonder why the previous sales fell through... I do remember seeing previously in this thread, he had posted a similar shouty top-note last time it was up, raging about their experience with buyers. He could just be fed-up with idiots himself. Or it could be them causing disagreement? We only have one side of the story. 21 minutes ago, Darrenroberts said: the wooden top didn't look bad when it was on slip a few weeks ago bit of patching in round the gunnel maybe..... nice boat tho From reading people's experiences with wooden tops, it seems typically you don't see problems until staining appears inside, by then it's started to rot. Advice tended to be "if it's not got historic value, skin over it with steel". They did note that the wood is being checked over at the moment, but that doesn't mean there won't be problems with it down the line. Seems a bit like living in a shed with no windows in a boat hold, and from the photos it looks like all it has is a bed, a sofa, a diesel heater and a bath(?!) in one large room. Edited August 16 by DShK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 20 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: Id be more concerned about all that "SHOUTY" text" that implies that the vendor is looking for something other than a straight you agree a price, pay it, and it is yours. No doubt Mr Lauder thinks he has been clear, but I can't help thinking I can't be the only one who doesn't really understand what he is suggesting (or why?). Yes. Would be cleaner if he just completed the various works listed then sold the boat as newly fettled. I suppose 6 months free mooring might appeal to some buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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