Binkie's Grandson Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Is there a traditional method, rope material and/or knot for securing fenders to the boat? I am thinking particularly how the fender chains are extended to the fixing points in the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Both my bow and stern fenders are attached by cords, only one link of chain outside the fender and non on the boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Rope shackles is what I use to secure all the bow and stern fenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 54 minutes ago, Binkie's Grandson said: Is there a traditional method, rope material and/or knot for securing fenders to the boat? I am thinking particularly how the fender chains are extended to the fixing points in the photo. Using metal links like that at the boat end is likely to lead to damage to the paint underneath and eventually rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Fenders? Traditional? Well I suppose a chain with one link sawn through and led through a piece of bicycle innertube would work but proper boats don't have bow fenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 6 minutes ago, magnetman said: Fenders? Traditional? Well I suppose a chain with one link sawn through and led through a piece of bicycle innertube would work but proper boats don't have bow fenders. Whats on the bow of this one then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 A fender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 30 minutes ago, magnetman said: Fenders? Traditional? Well I suppose a chain with one link sawn through and led through a piece of bicycle innertube would work but proper boats don't have bow fenders. I think CaRT disagree with you one that. I think they are mandatory in the terms and conditions. I agree non-canal boats tend not to, but there are plenty of exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Tony Brooks said: I think CaRT disagree with you one that. I think they are mandatory in the terms and conditions. I agree non-canal boats tend not to, but there are plenty of exceptions. Non canal boats are the only kind of proper boat. Canal boats are nowt but glorified skips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said: I think CaRT disagree with you one that. I think they are mandatory in the terms and conditions. I agree non-canal boats tend not to, but there are plenty of exceptions. Yes but proper boats still don't have bow fenders. I do mean narrow boats. Proper ones. Edited January 20 by magnetman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 10 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said: I think CaRT disagree with you one that. I think they are mandatory in the terms and conditions. I agree non-canal boats tend not to, but there are plenty of exceptions. IIRC It is mandatory to have a fender ready for use. It does not require that one is actually in place. N 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 You need a bow fender to push gates just before the the water is level. Going up locks in this case. 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady C Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 No wonder the gates break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam & Di Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 You're going to push them open one way or the other - mostly either a bit of brute strength or with the boat giving a bit of help 😁 Tam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady C Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Yes but leaning, with brute strength if necessary, on the end of the balance beam is now they are designed to be operated. In my view, using the boat to push on the gate is what you do when unavoidable not every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 An oldie, but a goody. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 I believe that there is a case for a weak link, just in case the bow fender gets trapped. Just how one determines how or if this will work has so far defeated me, I only use two of the three embedded chains, but then get people telling me my fender is insecure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 I have seen turnbuckles/bottle screws and cable ties used. I'm not sure that counts as traditional though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lady C said: No wonder the gates break. I must admit to a gentle nudge from time to time, occasionally lock doors are just very heavy, and daylight is running out. Edited January 20 by LadyG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady C Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Exactly but not, as suggested by Nightwatch, every time and before the water has levelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 (edited) Is this "traditional?" One of the issues is that "traditional" tends to vary! If you will excuse the pun, I feel at times we can get too "hung up" on what is "traditional." Taken at Alvecote Aug 2022. Also this: Edited January 20 by Ray T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 56 minutes ago, Ray T said: What's the source of that Ray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 (edited) That's a Yarwood's plan. It is generally accepted that fenders should not be fixed in such a way that if they get caught or hung up in any way, they could affect the stability of the boat - they need to be 'breakable'. Hence the open hook in a chain, and the string on the outermost fender, the one that is most likely to get caught in a closing gate or under a gate cross beam, fore end or aft. The 'traditional' description, should really relate to the best and safest practice. Edited January 20 by Derek R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 The hooks are interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 The hooks are designed to 'open out' under extreme tension. The strings to break. Most are no longer available (such types of hooks that is) so chain is used, but the outermost should always be string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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