Fender attachment

[Binkie's Grandson]

Is there a traditional method, rope material and/or knot for securing fenders to the boat? I am thinking particularly how the fender chains are extended to the fixing points in the photo. 

[ditchcrawler]

Both my bow and stern fenders are attached by cords, only one link of chain outside the fender and non on the boat

[Tonka]

Rope shackles is what I use to secure all the bow and stern fenders

[IanD]

54 minutes ago, Binkie's Grandson said:

Is there a traditional method, rope material and/or knot for securing fenders to the boat? I am thinking particularly how the fender chains are extended to the fixing points in the photo. 

Using metal links like that at the boat end is likely to lead to damage to the paint underneath and eventually rust.

[magnetman]

Fenders? Traditional? 

 

Well I suppose a chain with one link sawn through and led through a piece of bicycle innertube would work but proper boats don't have bow fenders. 

[ditchcrawler]

6 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Fenders? Traditional? 

 

Well I suppose a chain with one link sawn through and led through a piece of bicycle innertube would work but proper boats don't have bow fenders. 

Whats on the bow of this one then

 

  

[magnetman]

A fender?

[Tony Brooks]

30 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Fenders? Traditional? 

 

Well I suppose a chain with one link sawn through and led through a piece of bicycle innertube would work but proper boats don't have bow fenders. 

 

I think CaRT disagree with you one that. I think they are mandatory in the terms and conditions. I agree non-canal boats tend not to, but there are plenty of exceptions.

[rusty69]

1 minute ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

I think CaRT disagree with you one that. I think they are mandatory in the terms and conditions. I agree non-canal boats tend not to, but there are plenty of exceptions.

Non canal boats are the only kind of proper boat.  Canal boats are nowt but glorified skips.

[magnetman]

8 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

I think CaRT disagree with you one that. I think they are mandatory in the terms and conditions. I agree non-canal boats tend not to, but there are plenty of exceptions.

 

Yes  but proper boats still don't have bow fenders.

 

I do mean narrow boats. Proper ones.

Edited January 20, 2023 by magnetman

[BEngo]

10 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

I think CaRT disagree with you one that. I think they are mandatory in the terms and conditions. I agree non-canal boats tend not to, but there are plenty of exceptions.

IIRC It is mandatory to have a fender ready for use.  It does not require that one is actually in place.

 

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[Nightwatch]

You need a bow fender to push gates just before the the water is level. Going up locks in this case.

 

 

 

 

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[Lady M]

No wonder the gates break.

[Tam & Di]

You're going to push them open one way or the other - mostly either a bit of brute strength or with the boat giving a bit of help  😁

 

Tam

[Lady M]

Yes but leaning, with brute strength if necessary, on the end of the balance beam is now they are designed to be operated.  In my view, using the boat to push on the gate is what you do when unavoidable not every time.

[rusty69]

An oldie, but a goody.

[LadyG]

I believe that there is a case for a weak link, just in case the bow fender gets trapped. Just how one determines how or if this will work has so far defeated me, I only use two of the three embedded chains, but then get people telling me my fender is insecure. 

 

[rusty69]

I have seen turnbuckles/bottle screws and cable ties used. I'm not sure that counts as traditional though.

[LadyG]

4 hours ago, Lady C said:

No wonder the gates break.

I must admit to a gentle nudge from time to time, occasionally lock doors are just very heavy, and daylight is running out. 

Edited January 20, 2023 by LadyG

[Lady M]

Exactly but not, as suggested by Nightwatch, every time and before the water has levelled.

[Ray T]

Is this "traditional?"

One of the issues is that "traditional" tends to vary!

If you will excuse the pun, I feel at times we can get too "hung up" on what is "traditional."

Taken at Alvecote Aug 2022.

 

Also this:

 

Edited January 20, 2023 by Ray T

[David Mack]

56 minutes ago, Ray T said:

What's the source of that Ray?

[Derek R.]

That's a Yarwood's plan.

It is generally accepted that fenders should not be fixed in such a way that if they get caught or hung up in any way, they could affect the stability of the boat - they need to be 'breakable'. Hence the open hook in a chain, and the string on the outermost fender, the one that is most likely to get caught in a closing gate or under a gate cross beam, fore end or aft.

 

The 'traditional' description, should really relate to the best and safest practice.

Edited January 20, 2023 by Derek R.

[ditchcrawler]

The hooks are interesting

[Derek R.]

The hooks are designed to 'open out' under extreme tension. The strings to break. Most are no longer available (such types of hooks that is) so chain is used, but the outermost should always be string.