stagedamager Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 hours ago, blackrose said: I've just been down to Cogenhoe. I'm sure some of the caravans on the river side have a couple of feet of water beneath therm as usual when it floods, but the water isn't even over the banks at the moorings along the mill stream. I'm not sure what all the fuss is about? One idiot's tied his boat up too tightly but it's really not a catastrophe. I've only been on the Nene for 4 years but I can't help thinking that some people get into a panic over a little bit of flooding. If you want to see real flooding try living on the Warks Avon or the Thames. Cogenhoe Mill at 8am. I'd quite happily be moored here now. Edit:I think part of the problem is that some boaters are ill-equipped. Half the people at billing don't even own a pair of wellies to get them across the 5" of water at the ramp onto and off of the pontoons. When we moored at Billing I was piggy backing the kids through flood waters to get them to school whereas others saw it as the perfect excuse to have time off work.....the management there aren't the most sympathetic to moorers being stuck on the pontoons. Don't really miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Just seen photos from the Middle Level at Bill Fen https://www.facebook.com/groups/NarrowboatOwnersGroup/permalink/2858745274403742/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, stagedamager said: When we moored at Billing I was piggy backing the kids through flood waters to get them to school whereas others saw it as the perfect excuse to have time off work.....the management there aren't the most sympathetic to moorers being stuck on the pontoons. Don't really miss it. The management here aren't the most sympathetic to their moorers full stop, but I'm not sure what they're supposed to do about preventing the water levels from rising when it rains incessantly for a couple of days? Boaters need to take personal responsibility and make preparations for what are infrequent but fairly regular meteorological events, especially those who live aboard. But so many don't, and seem unaware that by definition preparations need to be made in advance. Once a river goes into flood it's too late to do much. The big advantage we have over land based dwellers in a flood is that we float, so if you're at a safe mooring then flooding really shouldn't be a big issue if you're prepared. But when I see people take on the lifestyle who refuse to plan ahead and prepare and then I have to admit I'm not the most sympathetic either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoominPapa Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, ditchcrawler said: Just seen photos from the Middle Level at Bill Fen https://www.facebook.com/groups/NarrowboatOwnersGroup/permalink/2858745274403742/ That's bad. It looks high enough that it might have overtopped the gate, or maybe it wasn't shut or wouldn't seal? MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, blackrose said: The management here aren't the most sympathetic to their moorers full stop, but I'm not sure what they're supposed to do about preventing the water levels from rising when it rains incessantly for a couple of days? Boaters need to take personal responsibility and make preparations for what are infrequent but fairly regular meteorological events, especially those who live aboard. But so many don't, and seem unaware that by definition preparations need to be made in advance. Once a river goes into flood it's too late to do much. The big advantage we have over land based dwellers in a flood is that we float, so if you're at a safe mooring then flooding really shouldn't be a big issue if you're prepared. But when I see people take on the lifestyle who refuse to plan ahead and prepare and then I have to admit I'm not the most sympathetic either. I think it was the moment the reception staff stuck their heads out of the window and pointed and laughed whilst offering no support that was the clincher. They don't and have never cared about them, the pontoons were in a dangerous state, pump outs only available on days that don't end in a Y and if you sneezed out of line you got the call of shame from the office ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Buckingham has been hit by the Gt Ouse today, pics from my daughter who lives there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, blackrose said: The big advantage we have over land based dwellers in a flood is that we float, so if you're at a safe mooring then flooding really shouldn't be a big issue if you're prepared. But when I see people take on the lifestyle who refuse to plan ahead and prepare and then I have to admit I'm not the most sympathetic either. Pretty sure they dont allow the boaters to stay on board when they do a full evacuation of Billing. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-55440971 Certainly I havnt seen the water covering the fields like it is near Weedon since 2007 Edited December 24, 2020 by matty40s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 No issues with flooding in Northamptonshire ??♂️ Take your pick from any story in the ET https://www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Not good on the GT Ouse either. ...St Ives....above previous highest levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearley Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 10 hours ago, matty40s said: Not good on the GT Ouse either. ...St Ives....above previous highest levels. Our son lives at Godmanchester. A lot of the town has been flooded, not from rising waters from the river but from run off from the higher ground taking the easiest route to the river. Fortunately his house just a foot or do higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 On 23/12/2020 at 19:03, Jen-in-Wellies said: Skin is waterproof. The Romans conquered Britain up to modern Cumbria and Northumbria wearing sandals. When they went further north than that, the chilblains and frostbite drove them back. Not strictly true. There are plenty examples of Roman marching boots discovered at Vindolanda near Hadrian's Wall. There's also the famous letter asking for socks (and underpants) to be sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 The caravan site was on the news with everyone evacuated, electricity off etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Knee deep (1 1/2’) at Peterborough yacht club. all of the middle Nene has suffered extensive flooding from Thrapston to Orton All boats safe at PYC, Orton Sluice is wide open - levels have peaked but a fair amount of water to shift yet. All of the fields on higher ground of the Nene valley are absolutely saturated. Thoughts to all who have been flooded (including my Mother In Law - first time since Easter 1998) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 24/12/2020 at 08:10, blackrose said: I'm not sure what all the fuss is about? One idiot's tied his boat up too tightly but it's really not a catastrophe. I've only been on the Nene for 4 years but I can't help thinking that some people get into a panic over a little bit of flooding. If you want to see real flooding try living on the Warks Avon or the Thames. Great Ouse highest levels on record, Nene, all sorts of problems all the way down over Christmas, Cherwell flooding Banbury again, with tonight's deluge still to come. People adapt to the norms of the rivers they live on and around, an event of the other days rainfall on already saturated ground can catch even the prepared out. You obviously felt Billing was a safer place to be than your normal mooring, but almost had to spend the night in an evacuation centre.....one of our former forum members had her boat sunk there. All rivers deserve respect and forward planning, but you can only do so much against increasingly abnormal weather events as the climate changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, matty40s said: one of our former forum members had her boat sunk there. Last time I saw her she was on a weir stream mooring lower down the Nene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Loddon said: Last time I saw her she was on a weir stream mooring lower down the Nene. She did a cracking job refitting the boat out after it was refloated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbfiresprite Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 River Level just below the stop planks at Foxes, pump has been going day and night, Water came over the stop planks on Christmas Night, All marina walkways were under water that morning. Two of the overstayers on the town moorings have sunk. Both have no insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, nbfiresprite said: Both have no insurance Presumably by the owners choice. They made (presuamably) an informed decision and decided the risk was manageable. Its gone wrong for them. It was a bad decision. Whilst feeling sorry for them, the choice was theirs & no doubt we will now see a "begging page" set up to fund their new boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Presumably by the owners choice. They made (presuamably) an informed decision and decided the risk was manageable. Its gone wrong for them. It was a bad decision. Whilst feeling sorry for them, the choice was theirs & no doubt we will now see a "begging page" set up to fund their new boats. And then I suddenly remember why I don’t post here very much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar Gypsy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 23/12/2020 at 12:53, TheBiscuits said: Horizontal isn't so bad. It's uphill to the pontoon that's worrying! Bardney, River Witham. June 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Vectis Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) That must have been taken a couple of days before we were there. Post #13 taken 16th June 2019. ETA I love the way Lincoln Cathedral stands out on the horizon. Edited December 27, 2020 by Victor Vectis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar Gypsy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Victor Vectis said: That must have been taken a couple of days before we were there. Post #13 taken 16th June 2019. ETA I love the way Lincoln Cathedral stands out on the horizon. Ah, sorry to miss that earlier post. Your approach looks more comfortable than mine. Here's another shot of Lincoln, taken from Boston Stump. Under the yellow arrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Saw a Great Ouse mooring today where the top of the car parked at the mooring wasn't much above the gunnel of the associated boat, and think wading past that has to be the worst uphill approach to a mooring, at least whilst your boat is still afloat and on the original river channel. I dont have a car to wreck but am still quite glad I didn't bring my boat down here for Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) On 24/12/2020 at 22:50, gazza said: No issues with flooding in Northamptonshire ??♂️ That's right, no real issues if your home floats and you're at a safe mooring. We at least have some control of our situation if we're prepared. The real issues are for the unfortunate people who live in land based dwellings and static riverside caravans who get flooded out. There's really not much they can do. Edited December 27, 2020 by blackrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lowe Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 The little river Ise came well over at Newbottle bridge, had to turn around and go another way but I stopped and chatted with the farmer he'd had to bring his loader as the flood had been so fierce that it knocked over his concrete entrance bollards, and his dredging's from the ditch had been washed every where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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