Guest Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Hi, just a few questions hopefully someone can advise please, ive booked in to have our 48 ft nb blacked. Been quoted 400 for lift out pressure wash blacking using bitumen & return, if want intertuff it will cost another £80 is this usual,a rip off? any opinions welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 It's a very good deal, even with the extra for intertuf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Sounds a good price to me, what part of the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Hi, midlands not far from Nuneaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 It sounds quite low to me. Presumably the quote is for only 2 coats? It's worth finding out: 1) Whether it will only be pressure washed, or whether any other wire brushing or the like will take place. 2) How long it will be out. Anything less than 24 hours between oats, and 48 hours after the last one isn't really ideal. A lot of places skimp on this to turn their facility around as soon as possible ready for the next boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenK Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Paid £720.00 inc VAT for a 60 ft in Yorkshire in November, so sounds like a good deal to me. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Also be clear that the price you have been quoted is the one you will pay, and is not going to have VAT added to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 If the job is imminent, be aware that it's not the best time of year to be blacking because the steel is too cold. There will be condensation, the blacking itself will be thick and gooey and curing times will be longer. If you can wait til warmer weather, you'll get a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRLMK38 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 £10 per foot (inc VAT) for 2 coats of Intertuf 16 is the going rate in the Braunston area. DIY would actually cost you more in this neck of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Same here round the Macc, except mine's always been bitumen so I guess it always will be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Sea Dog said: If the job is imminent, be aware that it's not the best time of year to be blacking because the steel is too cold. There will be condensation, the blacking itself will be thick and gooey and curing times will be longer. If you can wait til warmer weather, you'll get a better job. Every word true. I would add that the bottom needs doing too, is that included? if so then that is indeed a good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, Bee said: Every word true. I would add that the bottom needs doing too, is that included? if so then that is indeed a good price. I feel sure it will not be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Riley Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 You might ask that they use Keelblack, waterbased bitumen, can go onto a damp surface. I'm sure it's been discussed here before, did mine with it. Hiring dry dock in Hebden Bridge and cost of Keelblack was just over £400. So you've got a good price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jim Riley said: You might ask that they use Keelblack, waterbased bitumen, can go onto a damp surface. I'm sure it's been discussed here before, did mine with it. Hiring dry dock in Hebden Bridge and cost of Keelblack was just over £400. So you've got a good price. The curing times for Keelblack (and Fertan rust treatment if used) in these temperatures will be as long, if not longer than normal blacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Riley Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, matty40s said: The curing times for Keelblack (and Fertan rust treatment if used) in these temperatures will be as long, if not longer than normal blacking. Of course, but it removes the "damp surface" problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Bee said: I would add that some folk maintain that the bottom needs doing too, is that included? if so then that is indeed a good price. There, I’ve fixed your quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, WotEver said: There, I’ve fixed your quote. Cheeky pup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanddancer Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just a thought are those who used Keelblack happy with it to use it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Riley Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace42 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 With free paint and a free dry dock, would your clean, scrape and wirebrush, then black a 48ft boat twice - for £400 ? - as a way of earning money in a business. I know I wouldn't. Having said that. My solicitor might do it - if it could be done in less than an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Horace42 said: With free paint and a free dry dock, would your clean, scrape and wirebrush, then black a 48ft boat twice - for £400 ? - as a way of earning money in a business. I know I wouldn't. Having said that. My solicitor might do it - if it could be done in less than an hour. £50 per hr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Lewis Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ditchcrawler said: £50 per hr Nearer £200/hr for a solicitor Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Horace42 said: With free paint and a free dry dock, would your clean, scrape and wirebrush, then black a 48ft boat twice - for £400 ? - as a way of earning money in a business. I know I wouldn't. Having said that. My solicitor might do it - if it could be done in less than an hour. Well, rather than have facilities standing unused and labour doing nothing, I think £400 would be better, its probably less than eight hours labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boat&Bikes Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Horace42 said: With free paint and a free dry dock, would your clean, scrape and wirebrush, then black a 48ft boat twice - for £400 ? - as a way of earning money in a business. I know I wouldn't. Having said that. My solicitor might do it - if it could be done in less than an hour. I recall a conversation with someone in the know when Cropredy marina introduced its dry dock. The annual rent for the dock to the marina owners was circa £20,000. I don't think your going to get rich, unless you own the dock and the land/water its on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 17/01/2018 at 12:04, oats said: Hi, midlands not far from Nuneaton Springwood haven? Had mine done last year, top service! Think i paid about £600 but i had a the weed hatch repaired and sealed also, they even filled up the greaser for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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