Sea Dog Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Not sure where that leaves the Jolly Roger We'll and truly rogered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Apparently the new Scottish fiver has just the faintest trace of haggis in it and therefore should not be accepted south of the border (except perhaps in the bar of London Scottish FC). I got one in my change the other day, did seam to smell much but prettier than the English one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Merchant shipping Act 1995 Section 1 : ... And relevant bit of Section 2 ... Qualified owner appears to be ... although I haven't tracked down the actual regulation. ... Not sure where that leaves the Jolly Roger And the bit that defines a narrowboat as a "ship" is where? It's a boat. No flag required. But then I don't feel the need to blazon my or my family's names (or the location of my home mooring) all over the side either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) I got one in my change the other day, did seam to smell much but prettier than the English one. I got out a powerful magnifying glass to examine one of those the other day. Absolutely fascinating. All sorts of unexpected things. Edited to say that the lady portrayed, Nan Shepherd, was a neighbour of Mrs Mac's when she was growing up in Aberdeen. Edited December 6, 2016 by Mac of Cygnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) and who might she be? ...................... any connection with a jolly roger? .............................................. coat Edited December 6, 2016 by Murflynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I got out a powerful magnifying glass to examine one of those the other day. Absolutely fascinating. All sorts of unexpected things. Edited to say that the lady portrayed, Nan Shepherd, was a neighbour of Mrs Mac's when she was growing up in Aberdeen. ...and there was me thinking that it was a flattering portrait of Nicola. Are those sturgeons on the backside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) ...and there was me thinking that it was a flattering portrait of Nicola. Are those sturgeons on the backside? No, they're salmon, I think. Each has £5 in its eye. I have one of Nan Shepherd's books, 'The Living Mountain', but it's not my sort of thing. Edited to say, no, they're mackerel. Lots about the detail here . There's a midge somewhere! Edited December 6, 2016 by Mac of Cygnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 ...and there was me thinking that it was a flattering portrait of Nicola. Are those sturgeons on the backside? If not Sturgeon, perhaps Salmond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Lola Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Both seem a bit fishy to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardang Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) And the bit that defines a narrowboat as a "ship" is where? It's a boat. No flag required. But then I don't feel the need to blazon my or my family's names (or the location of my home mooring) all over the side either. Quite right -no flag is required, but if an owner chooses to wear a flag then wear the correct one as laid down in the MSA. Howard Edited December 6, 2016 by howardang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Not sure where that leaves the Jolly Roger Well, nowhere of course. It was a flag flown by pirates, and they each had their own Unless you are a RN submarine Richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I remember reading an article on flags in Canal World and apparently the Jolly Roger was the flag of an obscure king and can legitimately be flown, I think the article was written by Graham Booth. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Well, nowhere of course. It was a flag flown by pirates, and they each had their own Unless you are a RN submarine Richard Great photo. You can see the team sprit. No officers in the piccy though. Edited December 6, 2016 by Nightwatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Of course (further to posts 103 and 110 above) all submarines in the RN are referred to as 'boats', even the dirty great Trident jobs. Edited to remove a spurious parenthesis Edited December 7, 2016 by Machpoint005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalesman Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Of course (further to posts 103 and 110 above) all submarines in the RN are referred to as 'boats', even the dirty great Trident jobs. Edited to remove a spurious parenthesis You also have Tug Boats, some of them are very large indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 I was always told by a submariner friend of mine, repeatedly, there two types of ships in the Navy. Submarines and targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 I was always told by a submariner friend of mine, repeatedly, there two types of ships in the Navy. Submarines and targets. I thought you were going to say ships and boats (the latter is the word used to describe submarines by their crews). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalesman Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Unfortunately that is incorrect as far as I am aware. The pilot jack used to signal that the vessel required an English speaking pilot, but is now defunct. The DBA made enquiries about 15 years ago about its use by members' craft when cruising and got official confirmation that that was now acceptable. There was no restriction that it would only be when moored or at anchor. They were flown in the 1920s[ Edited December 7, 2016 by Dalesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardang Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 You also have Tug Boats, some of them are very large indeed. I think like many things the term tug boats is one imported from across the pond in recent years. I much prefer just to call tugs..... tugs! As for train station!!!!! Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 As for train station!!!!! Howard That term grated on me at first, too - yet another Americanism, I thought. They are Railway Stations, dammit! But then, we refer to a "bus station", not a "road station" (as the French do: gare routiere), so train station is logical. Still don't like it particularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Unless somebody has said this before in this thread - A ship is a vessel that carries (or can carry) a boat A boat cannot / doesn't carry another boat. Hence 'boat' for a submarine and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) As for train station!!!!! That term grated on me at first, too - yet another Americanism, I thought. They are Railway Stations, dammit! But then, we refer to a "bus station", not a "road station" (as the French do: gare routiere), so train station is logical. Still don't like it particularly. They are "railway stations", or (if no ambiguity) simply "stations". Bus stations were so named to distinguish them from stations, not the other way around. How many Station Roads lead to a bus station? Isn't the "routiere" part a reference to road travel as opposed to rail travel? I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as a "gare du chemin de fer". Long may it so continue. Edited December 7, 2016 by Machpoint005 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar Gypsy Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Unless somebody has said this before in this thread - A ship is a vessel that carries (or can carry) a boat A boat cannot / doesn't carry another boat. Hence 'boat' for a submarine and so on. Um, so what about the Cockleshell heroes (canoes launched from a submarine, for a commando raid in France in WW2). And I quite often have a kayak on the roof, does that make me a narrow ship not a narrow boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Isn't the "routiere" part a reference to road travel as opposed to rail travel? Of course. I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as a "gare du chemin de fer". I'm not. French people may refer to the railway station as simply "La gare", but they frequently call it "La gare S.N.C.F." - French National Railway station. Edited December 7, 2016 by Athy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Unless somebody has said this before in this thread - A ship is a vessel that carries (or can carry) a boat A boat cannot / doesn't carry another boat. Hence 'boat' for a submarine and so on. I understood that a boat was a submarine and everything else was a target. (Apologies if this has already been said) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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