Private 'No Mooring' signs

[Athy]

It wasn't you that I quoted

Indirectly, it was actually.

[PaulG]

 

Corporate responsibility for those around them in this case, not bullying.

 

I work on one of the biggest COMAH sites in Europe and we have a similar problem with a public road (dead end) that runs past our main gate and fence. We'd prefer folk not to hang around there as if there was a major incident (and they do happen) we have no way of accounting for anyone offsite who may be caught up in a gas cloud/firestorm/whatever. Usually, for us, it's just people touring round and who just stop for a quick gawp - so easy to deal with.

Anyone onsite is logged under the COMAH system so everyone can be checked out if it comes to site evacuation...not so any poor sods who may be tucked up on a nearby narrowboat at 3 in the morning.

 

From a security aspect, sadly we live in a world were we have to be alert at all times. Any site that is classed as a top-tier site could potentially be seen as a target for terrorism. As I pointed out earlier, security services get a bit twitchy about folk who hang around for no good reason next to a perimeter fence, however, this has to be balanced out with a bit of good old-fashioned common dog. An elderly couple or family on a private narrowboat are probably way down the list of ne'er do wells. A couple of young men with holdalls would be a different matter.

 

As I said earlier, security should be logging any 'suspicious' movements or activity within their immediate area with SO15. Easy in some places, not so easy when there's a towpath running along your perimeter. It's down to the quality of the people employed to deal with it politely and tactfully and decide whether anything needs reporting in the first place. Also, bear in mind that if anyone outwith the perimeter dug their heels in and refused to move then there's bugger all anyone can do about it. They ain't breaking any law.

 

So really, as far as I'm concerned, it's a bit of a non-event. Although I can see why people could quite easily get shirty about the sign. But in this case pontificating over the legalities and 'knowing your rights' won't mean effall if there's a bloody big bang.

 

Park at your own risk.

Funnily enough I've been past that site a few times, and (given that it is a bloody great chemical works) I always read those signs as being "Stay away for your own good" rather than "boaters not welcome here".

[Dharl]

Funnily enough I've been past that site a few times, and (given that it is a bloody great chemical works) I always read those signs as being "Stay away for your own good" rather than "boaters not welcome here".

 

 

that was my thoughts as well. Whilst the canals where built as part of our industrial past, and as much as I enjoy visiting the back waters of our citys, I have no interest in mooring next to a chemical plant when there are miles of towpath in better locations. I do moor next to oil terminals from time to time...however I do get paid to do that!

[ditchcrawler]

It worked fine for me!

TA

[ditchcrawler]

Funnily enough I've been past that site a few times, and (given that it is a bloody great chemical works) I always read those signs as being "Stay away for your own good" rather than "boaters not welcome here".

But which will be the next company to erect No Mooring signs because it doesn't want people to moor outside. The signs could have requested you not to moor there, but they are just telling you not to moor there which they do not have the right to do.

[cuthound]

A few years ago I noticed that the plant there had closed, and felt a bit sorry, as, having cruised past it many times over the last 40 years, that part of my history was being lost.

 

Then about 4 years ago I cruised past and noticed it had been rebuilt. I felt happy that it was still in use, even though it is an eyesore.

[Peter-Bullfinch]

There are similar warning signs at Salwick nuclear processing site on the Lancaster Canal near Preston, and the chemical works near Anderton on the Trent and Mersey at Marston, plus the giant chemical works Frodsham way on the River Weaver just past Marsh Lock and the Mersey/ship canal entrance.

[Dharl]

There are similar warning signs at Salwick nuclear processing site on the Lancaster Canal near Preston, and the chemical works near Anderton on the Trent and Mersey at Marston, plus the giant chemical works Frodsham way on the River Weaver just past Marsh Lock and the Mersey/ship canal entrance.

 

no mooring signs make sense in such locations....at bottom of someone's garden less so! I agree with another poster who said that if the house is right up against the towpath then they try and avoid, however if their is long garden then different story!

[Athy]

 

no mooring signs make sense in such locations....at bottom of someone's garden less so! I agree with another poster who said that if the house is right up against the towpath then they try and avoid, however if their is long garden then different story!

Shouldn't they have considered the possibilities before buying the house?

[Victor Vectis]

Well, yes, one would have thought (hoped?) so.

 

(Thinks: "Isn't this where we came in?")

[Athy]

Well, yes, one would have thought (hoped?) so.

 

(Thinks: "Isn't this where we came in?")

No, I don't think it is. I just re-read the first few posts and found no reference to it.

[Graham Davis]

Funnily enough I've been past that site a few times, and (given that it is a bloody great chemical works) I always read those signs as being "Stay away for your own good" rather than "boaters not welcome here".

 

Quite!!

Unfortunately there are some who see any sign like this an imposition on the freedom and a threat from the "establishment".

[furnessvale]

It is that site and the rail freight depot proposal is quite an old one so unless you know it's been resurrected recently I am not sure it will actually happen. As a recall the proposal was the opposite side of the railway so maybe you know of a new one on the disused part of the chemical works on the opposite side of the canal.

 

 

Yes, the new proposal is for the brownfield site on the offside of the canal.

 

Like all these things it will probably take years.

 

George ex nb Alton retired

[mayalld]

It wasn't you that I quoted

 

It was me, and I would have imagined that it was abundantly clear that like Athy, I was referring to their ACTIONS being a public service, rather than describing them as a public service.

[Captain Pegg]

It was me, and I would have imagined that it was abundantly clear that like Athy, I was referring to their ACTIONS being a public service, rather than describing them as a public service.

I read it in a different way to how you intended it. I can see what you meant having re-read it.

 

JP

[homer2911]

Like mooring at the Black Country museum and visitors thinking your boat is an attraction that they can have a look in.

Not to mention Stratford upon Avon, where Japanese tourists think your boat is fair game.

[Laurie Booth]

Not to mention Stratford upon Avon, where Japanese tourists think your boat is fair game.

And in Birmingham

[Steilsteven]

And in Birmingham

And Windsor, I once discovered a foreign lady perched on on the roof of our cabin while her husband took her photo!

 

Keith

[Laurie Booth]

And Windsor, I once discovered a foreign lady perched on on the roof of our cabin while her husband took her photo!

 

Keith

I don't mind provided the "Model" is good looking.

[Arthur Marshall]

Never really understood why anyone minds about people looking in their windows. No different from houses, really - if you don't like it, put something like a lace curtain up. I admit to always looking into boats as i go past them, if only to get new ideas for furniture or layout,

On the canal I reckon we are part of the scenery and as such can expect to be looked at and into. Most people are fascinated by something so out of their usual experience, especially the kids, and the more people we can get interested in the fact that canals are a living thing with real people on them, the more chance the system has of surviving. Growling at people who show an interest is a fairly good way of growing antipathy to the whole thing.

[Athy]

Yep. Greeno.

[furnessvale]

Never really understood why anyone minds about people looking in their windows. No different from houses, really - if you don't like it, put something like a lace curtain up. I admit to always looking into boats as i go past them, if only to get new ideas for furniture or layout,

On the canal I reckon we are part of the scenery and as such can expect to be looked at and into. Most people are fascinated by something so out of their usual experience, especially the kids, and the more people we can get interested in the fact that canals are a living thing with real people on them, the more chance the system has of surviving. Growling at people who show an interest is a fairly good way of growing antipathy to the whole thing.

True. I am quite pleased with my back cabin and, provided I have polished and the weather is good, I will always have the doors open.

 

George ex nb Alton retired

[FadeToScarlet]

There's a difference between looking in through the windows (I don't mind that) and actually getting on to the boat, though.

[Arthur Marshall]

There's a difference between looking in through the windows (I don't mind that) and actually getting on to the boat, though.

Certainly is! Never had anyone try that.

[dogless]

True. I am quite pleased with my back cabin and, provided I have polished and the weather is good, I will always have the doors open.

 

George ex nb Alton retired

That's not a euphamism is it ?

 

Rog