David Mack Posted May 16, 2022 Report Posted May 16, 2022 56 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said: That bit about the Braunston Historic Show is tosh. Yes and no. It clearly isn't a working boat, so isn't eligible for the show even when it is 50 years old. But there's nothing to stop it joining the parade. There's usually one or two ordinary leisure boats get caught up in the procession - some fume about being held up, others delight in the mayhem!
Dav and Pen Posted May 16, 2022 Report Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Phoenix_V said: There is a smaller one (38m) built in 1952 moored in Thuin (Belgium) which has been turned into a museum. The cabin is a symphony in polished dark wood. 2 bedrooms and saloon but no bathroom definitely historic. Off topic but Thuin is a real boatman’s town with many retired skippers and we have always been very welcome there. Many Belgian barges are registered there but most are 2 big to get up this part of the Sambre which has 38m locks. 1
Jonny P Posted May 16, 2022 Report Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, MtB said: From the advert... "its wooden top is in solid condition. " Yeah right, just like all the others! I didn't read the advert. Just looked at the pictures. 😳 Even so, isn't £20k about the mark at which if you're lucky you can buy a boat that floats?
magnetman Posted May 17, 2022 Report Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) There was one of those Airborne Lifeboats in Rickmansworth about 20 years ago. Moored opposite the farm just below Stockers Lock. Bloke called Stephan and his other half lived on it. Intriguing boat it was. Don't know what happened to it but I have an idea it was sold for scrap. Possibly same boat. Edited May 17, 2022 by magnetman
Bacchus Posted May 17, 2022 Report Posted May 17, 2022 49 minutes ago, magnetman said: There was one of those Airborne Lifeboats in Rickmansworth about 20 years ago. Moored opposite the farm just below Stockers Lock. Bloke called Stephan and his other half lived on it. Intriguing boat it was. Don't know what happened to it but I have an idea it was sold for scrap. Possibly same boat. Would this be the thing -- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/294978494647 I am hugely tempted - a lot of boat and history for really very little money picture for when the eBay ad ends...
magnetman Posted May 17, 2022 Report Posted May 17, 2022 Yes. Sorry I missed out a page on the forum. This item was posted earlier in the thread. It would be a great boat for electric conversion. I reckon it would be very efficient. 1
magnetman Posted May 17, 2022 Report Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) It looks seriously groovy in this picture but from the ad detail suspect it has deteriorated. The Tohatsu needs to go in favour of an electric pod motor. Not sure on roof width for solar but if one could get a kilowatt on there it be a great craft for swanning up and down the river in the summer. https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/saunders-roe-watson-lifeboat-for-sale/675698 It does say "all aluminium" but there seems to be a lot of wood around. If the gunnels and cabin are indeed aluminium it's quite interesting. Had assumed wooden cabin but maybe not. Edited May 17, 2022 by magnetman
Derek R. Posted May 17, 2022 Report Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) Seriously unimpressed. Think of the condensation! Impractical in so many ways. Where it once lived (and briefly most like): https://tinyurl.com/mpz8e8zs Edited May 17, 2022 by Derek R.
Bacchus Posted May 17, 2022 Report Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, magnetman said: It does say "all aluminium" but there seems to be a lot of wood around. If the gunnels and cabin are indeed aluminium it's quite interesting. Had assumed wooden cabin but maybe not. The superstructure is predominantly aluminium. I have been in touch with the seller and seen a couple of photos of the boat before her first(?) resto... Would certainly raise an eyebrow or two at the Henley Trad Boat Rally...
ditchcrawler Posted May 17, 2022 Report Posted May 17, 2022 10 hours ago, magnetman said: There was one of those Airborne Lifeboats in Rickmansworth about 20 years ago. Moored opposite the farm just below Stockers Lock. Bloke called Stephan and his other half lived on it. Intriguing boat it was. Don't know what happened to it but I have an idea it was sold for scrap. Possibly same boat. If I remember correctly there is one in the Flixton Aircraft Museum Norfolk and Suffolk Aviation Museum
Derek R. Posted May 18, 2022 Report Posted May 18, 2022 Must have been a life-saver for some down'd crews. Not so sure about this one though . . .
alan_fincher Posted May 18, 2022 Author Report Posted May 18, 2022 Given how few of them were built, It seems a strange co-incidence that Apollo Duck lists two of the Severn & Canal Carrying Charles Hill built "Tree" class motors offered for sale at the same time. Both are converted, one is shortened. The differences in prices hoped for by their owners though is staggering. You can have the full length Pine for under £35K https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/narrow-boats-traditional-for-sale/683836 But the 55 foot long Fir, (also once Bridget), would set you back £90K https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/narrow-boats-traditional-for-sale/655585 I know which one I'd be going to view!
David Mack Posted May 18, 2022 Report Posted May 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: I know which one I'd be going to view! Not thinking of buying another boat are you Alan?
koukouvagia Posted May 18, 2022 Report Posted May 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: Given how few of them were built, It seems a strange co-incidence that Apollo Duck lists two of the Severn & Canal Carrying Charles Hill built "Tree" class motors offered for sale at the same time. Both are converted, one is shortened. The differences in prices hoped for by their owners though is staggering. You can have the full length Pine for under £35K https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/narrow-boats-traditional-for-sale/683836 But the 55 foot long Fir, (also once Bridget), would set you back £90K https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/narrow-boats-traditional-for-sale/655585 I know which one I'd be going to view! Both Pine and Fir have been drastically reduced in price since they were first offered for sale. Fir has dropped from £125K to £90K and Pine has dropped from £42,950 to £34,950. Does this mean that the imminent recession is having a marked effect on historic boat prices?
magnetman Posted May 18, 2022 Report Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Derek R. said: Must have been a life-saver for some down'd crews. Not so sure about this one though . . . Looks like an ex NATO air transportable tug. Big Deutz engine and a heavy duty Scottel rotating drive unit with no rudder. Interesting boat is it for sale? I think that one is at Dorney by the Eton rowing lakes. Edited May 18, 2022 by magnetman
zenataomm Posted May 18, 2022 Report Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, koukouvagia said: Fir has dropped from £125K to £90K and Pine has dropped from £42,950 to £34,950. Does this mean that the imminent recession is having a marked effect on historic boat prices? .... or just trees? 2 hours ago, Derek R. said: Must have been a life-saver for some down'd crews. Not so sure about this one though . . . Could be ideal for The Caldon, with those wheels. 1 1
Derek R. Posted May 18, 2022 Report Posted May 18, 2022 The Army/NATO launch - took the image years ago, can't remember where from. It may have been parked up in the gravel pit marina below Widewater. I feel certain it's an image I took, maybe 12 - 15yrs ago. I seem to recall mooching around the bits and pieces while TYCHO was being sign written.
magnetman Posted May 18, 2022 Report Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) I'll have a look this weekend and see if it's the one at Dorney. They have fenced off the rowing lakes but I think it's still open during the day. The one there may have been blue but I definitely remember the one with the wheels. Did not link it to Harefield marina but it might be there. A lot of heavy duty ageing hardware can make a boat less desirable. Looking at the airborne lifeboat it seems to have some gear under the hull which would make it considerably less efficient through the water. Perhaps there is a reasonable reason it was found in a scrapyard. Edited May 18, 2022 by magnetman
MtB Posted May 18, 2022 Report Posted May 18, 2022 3 hours ago, koukouvagia said: Both Pine and Fir have been drastically reduced in price since they were first offered for sale. Fir has dropped from £125K to £90K and Pine has dropped from £42,950 to £34,950. Does this mean that the imminent recession is having a marked effect on historic boat prices? I think it probably reflects the fact that there are only ever about three people in the market to buy a historic at any given time, and none of the three in the market now want anything quite as weird as these two.
alan_fincher Posted May 18, 2022 Author Report Posted May 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, MtB said: I think it probably reflects the fact that there are only ever about three people in the market to buy a historic at any given time, and none of the three in the market now want anything quite as weird as these two. Are they that weird? I guess you could have some Hudson stick on rivets added for a more "authentic" feel.
merline Posted May 18, 2022 Report Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) Another wooden one from the same place... https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/731809601164886/?ref=facebook_story_share Edited May 18, 2022 by merline Missed photo
noddyboater Posted May 19, 2022 Report Posted May 19, 2022 21 hours ago, merline said: Another wooden one from the same place... https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/731809601164886/?ref=facebook_story_share A boat I've admired for it's shapely lines, but unfortunately I'd guess won't sell through a crap advert like that. "Converted from a barge" ? You'd expect a more accurate, detailed description for what is a rare and interesting boat. 1
Stilllearning Posted May 19, 2022 Report Posted May 19, 2022 On 16/05/2022 at 21:37, Phoenix_V said: There is a smaller one (38m) built in 1952 moored in Thuin (Belgium) which has been turned into a museum. The cabin is a symphony in polished dark wood. 2 bedrooms and saloon but no bathroom definitely historic. Mention of Thuin takes me back to 1979 and Belgium, Thuin was one of the town’s I studied and included in my degree dissertation. 1
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