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1 hour ago, magnetman said:

Ed Boden. I knew I recognised it. He also had a modern narrow boat called "Communicator" and possibly another historic. But I have not been past Hemel in more than a decade so not that up to date. I think before he had it (Conway) that boat was at Targets turn in MK for a while. 

 

I didn't know he was now a surveyor. 

 

Always struck me as a good bloke although I wouldn't know him from adam..

Yes, Ed also owned  the butty Bakewell back then

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2 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

Many of the descriptions on the HNBC website are not particularly accurate.

Build date - 1949

Registration Date - 17/10/1924

 

Either Thos. Clayton was very forward minded (25 years in fact) or it was built around 08.50pm on 17/10/1924

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11 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

I don't thing Ed does survey work, does he?  His specialisation is surely as a mechanic, (and he is a good one)
I'm not the only one on the forum that rates him, I know.

Yep, that would include me :)

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Not the time I guess to be trying to buy, (or sell), an historic boat, but Rufford offers a lot of potential...
 

http://www.nortoncanesboatbuilders.co.uk/home/index.php/boats-for-sale/78-rufford

 

We tried to buy Rufford as an estate sale back in Mid 2013, but were eventually heavily gazumped and it went to someone else who was then a forum member for (I think) £58K, so the current reduced asking price of £50K does show what has happened to prices of "historics" since.

 

I don't know the full story here, and whilst much work has clearly been done in the meantime, it is also still obviously "work in progress", unless  you consider an open plan loo to be totally normal.

Norton Canes seem to have docked it, has it surveyed, and replaced anodes and blacked it in two pack, and the hull appears to be good to go for some years.

The Lister HR2 was put in before 2013 by Brinklow Boats, and as I understand it is a very low hours unit.

If I still needed a full length converted boat, I'd certainly be revisiting Rufford.

That horrible cocooned generator in the engine room would have to go though!

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On 02/04/2020 at 11:38, DHutch said:

Wooden boat in need of help!

 

Because if you can't sell a pile of timber (that needs a six-figure sum spending on it) for £1,000, then a 20% discount is going to make all the difference... Poor Conway needs a dowry, not a bill.

 

It could be worse. Mabel & Forgot me Ages Ago are £23,000 for the pair. http://www.batesboatyard.co.uk/mabel-forgetmenot.htm "The topsides look a bit off putting but beneath the waterline they are in good condition."

 

Edited to add: I'm really not trying to be horrid. I do hope there is a happy ending for all of these. But the vendors seem to struggle in seeing the difference between 'liability' and 'asset'...

 

And also, Conway has been mentioned on here by two proud new owners. In 2008 

and also in 2013 (a little way down this thread):

 

 

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On 03/04/2020 at 20:42, magnetman said:

Allen's of Oldbury were mentioned in one of those threads.

 

Cabin conversion I guess. Not sure if they did works on wooden hulls but they may have done.

Prior to setting up at Oldbury Les Allen worked at Spencer Abbot and Company, Salford Bridge - ending up as Forman I believe. Spencer Abbott and Company built new boats as well as extensive dockings, mostly if not all in wood. This would mean that the yard established at Oldbury would easily manage maintenance and alterations to wooden hulls, and it was this yard that converted CONWAY to a counter sterned motor pleasure boat in 1968/69.

 

In response to the current advert I have written quite a lot about CONWAY elsewhere, possibly on Facebook :captain:

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5 hours ago, Athy said:

"A commercial boat suitable for conversation", says the advert. He'll talk about the price, then.

Certainly this year we're all going to be doing more talking than actual boating.

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35 minutes ago, zenataomm said:

Certainly this year we're all going to be doing more talking than actual boating.

I’m doing very little of both.

 

As a footnote, Rufford looks a lot of money considering what needs to be done to finish. Depends, I suppose, what you want to end up with. But £50,000.

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here we go again - ORION on Ebay @ £20k. Previously up for Ebay auction with an end date of 23 February 2020, but the advert was taken down on 17 February 2020. The current seller has a different Ebay name and a different telephone number, and more concerning is the history score of '0' :captain:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50ft-trad-narrowboat/202970601149?hash=item2f41fd96bd:g:M6AAAOSwedNenxsF

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On 07/04/2020 at 13:26, Nightwatch said:

I’m doing very little of both.

 

As a footnote, Rufford looks a lot of money considering what needs to be done to finish. Depends, I suppose, what you want to end up with. But £50,000.

Agree. 

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1 hour ago, pete harrison said:

here we go again - ORION on Ebay @ £20k. Previously up for Ebay auction with an end date of 23 February 2020, but the advert was taken down on 17 February 2020. The current seller has a different Ebay name and a different telephone number, and more concerning is the history score of '0' :captain:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50ft-trad-narrowboat/202970601149?hash=item2f41fd96bd:g:M6AAAOSwedNenxsF

When I look at the listing I see that the vendor "will post to the United States". Now I'm tempted to make an offer.

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14 hours ago, pete harrison said:

here we go again - ORION on Ebay @ £20k. Previously up for Ebay auction with an end date of 23 February 2020, but the advert was taken down on 17 February 2020. The current seller has a different Ebay name and a different telephone number, and more concerning is the history score of '0' :captain:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50ft-trad-narrowboat/202970601149?hash=item2f41fd96bd:g:M6AAAOSwedNenxsF

 

It has moved from Pillings lock then. Unless something has changed since I last saw her, "She has got a newly refurbished lister 3 cylinder engine which is in  pristine condition" isn't exactly correct

 

Richard

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11 minutes ago, RLWP said:

 

It has moved from Pillings lock then. Unless something has changed since I last saw her, "She has got a newly refurbished lister 3 cylinder engine which is in  pristine condition" isn't exactly correct

 

Richard

It's OK, if the engine rattles you can turn up the volume on the built in sound system to cover the noise

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Since February ORION has apparently been painted green (instead of blue) and blacked. And it has a new 4-year BSC. So the Lister might well have been overhauled too... Bloke with financée and dog was probably delighted to be shot of it at about 4k in February, so whoever bought it would be onto a significant profit. There's no wooden boat that doesn't look as thought it was newly built after a coat of blacking... and no Lister that a stainless exhaust doesn't make look overhauled...

 

Here's the February listing with different paint colour, and absence of BSC:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/48-Foot-Narrow-Boat-Project-Liveaboard-NO-RESERVE-/223913684489?nma=true&si=hqnR5xfThe5xhhOHFju%2FPjNlWW4%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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7 minutes ago, Paddle said:

Since February ORION has apparently been painted green (instead of blue) and blacked. And it has a new 4-year BSC. So the Lister might well have been overhauled too..

Overhauled? It's grown an extra cylinder too! Perhaps that's not surprising, as the boat has also grown by two feet.

I would be interested to learn more about the "100 foot narrowboat" of which this once formed part.

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5 hours ago, Athy said:

Overhauled? It's grown an extra cylinder too!

It actually lost one in that last advert, and is now back to the correct number

 

Richard

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5 hours ago, Derek R. said:

General practice for clinker built wooden boats, dinghys especially. Dried wood shrinks, then leaks.

Yes I know.

However most canal boats that sink do so because of lack of attention.

I was amused at the image of someone in the 60s/70s looking at an under maintained long distance, wooden narrow boat and deciding .....

"You know, I appreciate this ancient boat which is mainly rotten and knackered is only worth buttons, however I really think we should deliberately sink it in order to preserve what timbers aren't already mushy.  We should do this in order to preserve it for future generations to restore and then pontificate in flowery language about it so they can sell it for thousands."  

Yeah right!

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25 minutes ago, zenataomm said:

Yes I know.

However most canal boats that sink do so because of lack of attention.

I was amused at the image of someone in the 60s/70s looking at an under maintained long distance, wooden narrow boat and deciding .....

"You know, I appreciate this ancient boat which is mainly rotten and knackered is only worth buttons, however I really think we should deliberately sink it in order to preserve what timbers aren't already mushy.  We should do this in order to preserve it for future generations to restore and then pontificate in flowery language about it so they can sell it for thousands."  

Yeah right!

That's more or less what the Boat Museum at Ellesmere Port did!

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