Which Lock on The GU?

[mark99]

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[alan_fincher]

It doesn't look much like the GU to me.

[Ray T]

A northern canal?

Edited November 20, 2023 by Ray T

[Rob-M]

Google thinks it is Tyrley.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

It’s a narrow lock ??
 

Isn’t it?

 

4 minutes ago, Rob-M said:

Google thinks it is Tyrley.

Could be right. 
it looks really familiar 

But the buildings do t match do they?

 

 

So which lock on the SU?

Edited November 20, 2023 by beerbeerbeerbeerbeer

[mark99]

26 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

It doesn't look much like the GU to me.

 

 

Maybe - it was the attribution on the image. I don't remember anything like this on the GU. Hence threw it to the experts.

Edited November 20, 2023 by mark99

[Captain Pegg]

I thought Tyrley because I think it’s a narrow lock but the current Tyrley top lock has brick chamber walls so I wasn’t convinced.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

This has me going,

it looks so so familiar but I can’t place it,

locks like that are so easy when on your own, which is why seems memorable to me, 

 

there can’t be many that fit the bill,

it’s got me in mind of Cheshire locks too but …

 

arrrh 

 

Tyrely, 

has to be,

I’ll stick with Rob M

No I’ve googled images and I’m not convinced it’s Tyerly. 
 

Its the step at top of ramp looks familiar,

and Tyrely don’t have one. 

 

[john6767]

I would say Tyrley

 

 

images from canalplan

[junior]

That's definitely tyrley top lock.

 

 

[Rob-M]

Best image I could find on the web

 

[junior]

Even the wooden staircase is still there.

[stagedamager]

i'd say Tyrley top too.

[magnetman]

Possibly Tyrley top lock.

 

 

If it was on the GU it would be Norwood top lock.

 

 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Nope,

not convinced. 
 

too many dissimilarities compared to similarity,

 

 

Ok buildings change,

so count them out for a moment,

although the wooden railings  up to house are convincing,

 

the count of block work/ stone work is different,

and one set seems to curve while the other is straight, 

and the steps on left are at different distances to the bridge hole. 

 

and where’s that lone step gone up on the right?

 

 

Maybe it’s camera angles,

🤣

 

it’s doing me head in. 
 

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by beerbeerbeerbeerbeer

[magnetman]

1 hour ago, mark99 said:

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maybe this is why it was labeled as GU. 

 

 

Doesn't look right with the steps although they could have been added later. 

Bridge is the wrong material but never mind !

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

There’s also the pattern carved into the stone on the edging of bank beneath the tunnel which would still be there. 
 

It’s the top lonely step that’s really bugging me. 
Why would it disappear?

I’m sure I’ve stomped up somewhere regular with a top step there. 
 

[David Mack]

55 minutes ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:

the count of block work/ stone work is different,

and one set seems to curve while the other is straight, 

and the steps on left are at different distances to the bridge hole. 

 

and where’s that lone step gone up on the right?

The modern photos show the lock side built of blue engineering brick with precast concrete copings. These are clearly not original, so my guess is the whole lockside has been rebuilt since the date of the original photo. 

In the original photo there has been an area above the bottom gate rebuilt in brick, which would suggest earlier problems with the original stone wall.

[magpie patrick]

2 hours ago, mark99 said:

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Rob-M said:

 

 The offside approach wall has been entirely rebuilt 

 

The solo step on the right has disappeared because there is one less course of bricks in the second photo.

 

I do wonder if the entire tail of the lock has been rebuilt 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

I’m coming around to it after looking backwards and forwards at the two. 
But the lock must have gone through a fair rebuild.

 

The blocks of stone are gone for a start.

 

the only constant, in the background,  looks to be the brick work on which the wooden railings on the house sit i

Edited November 20, 2023 by beerbeerbeerbeerbeer

[Captain Pegg]

12 minutes ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:

I’m coming around to it after looking backwards and forwards at the two. 
But the lock must have gone through a fair rebuild.

 

The blocks of stone are gone for a start.

 

the only constant, in the background,  looks to be the brick work on which the wooden railings on the house sit i

Resistance is futile. It is Tyrley.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Yes , I’ve given in

but not without a fight,

😃

 

always like the old photos and the comparisons,

guessing where they are,

 

keep ‘em coming

 

[Derek R.]

The bridge stonework says Northern waterways, which brings to mind the Shroppie, Macclesfield and Peak Forest. The angle of the photo and the lens focal point make further comparison difficult. The B & W looks to have a lesser distance between the bridge and the bottom gates, and the building in the colour image is either not there - or it's due to the angle and distance the shot has been taken from.

 

I'm not convinced they are the same place. Is that a lock number on the balance beam - (1)? Doesn't look central enough somehow.

Edited November 21, 2023 by Derek R.

[StephenA]

The more and more I look at it I'm convinced it isn't tyrley top. ... where are the windows?

 

But having said that - this photo shows one less window than the colour photo

 

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/6540394

Edited December 18, 2023 by StephenA

[Heartland]

It is the stone in the lock and bridge which does not fit with Tyrley as a location for this Telford canal. So other suggestions might be needed.