Tracy D'arth Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 I must have done something. What indiscretion have I committed? Only the rules page accessible until I agreed. No PM or anything. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 Same with me just now. I assume they've been updated and so before accessing you have to agree to continue or don't agree and leave 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 If you don't know, then you've clearly not read it! It's only a problem if you're an AI. A new rule to give us mods leeway to act against users using large language model AI to fill CWDF with nonsense. Leaves more space for humans to fill CWDF with human generated nonsense as usual... The use of Large Language Model (LLM) A.I. generated content is not permitted anywhere on CWDF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted October 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 I read that but do not understand large language model LLM or the abbreviation A.I. I understand AI but not with full stops. Plain language and no acronyms or abbreviations would make it much clearer to the oldies on here please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said: I read that but do not understand large language model LLM or the abbreviation A.I. I understand AI but not with full stops. Plain language and no acronyms or abbreviations would make it much clearer to the oldies on here please. Large language model artificial intelligences. Computer programs that can generate human sounding text from what they have gathered by scanning training data scraped from the internet and other sources. We have seen several new users that we think are posting using this stuff from a number of places on the planet. We don't know how much of it is automated. It is a relatively new thing that has been affecting other forums too. The purpose of them doing this is unknown. So far it isn't being used to spam the forum. The text reads off, lots of filler text and rather bland. Being factual and relevant to inland boating is open to question. We don't want it on here because no computer goes boating, is planning to go boating, or has any boating experience, so anything one writes is going to be second hand at best and not contribute to the forum in a useful way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 It's becoming a bit annoying, each time I hit View Unread Content I get the rules displayed and have to agree to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilllearning Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 Am I going to be asked to agree to the conditions every time I log in? Twice in a row so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted October 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) It still does not read correctly. there is an "on" missing. If I have to do this every time I am gone from the forum. Edited October 5, 2023 by Tracy D'arth 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, Stilllearning said: Am I going to be asked to agree to the conditions every time I log in? Twice in a row so far. Not at all. All you need to do is save the "New Content" page in your bookmarks, rather than the Home page, it will then open without the anoying "agreement" page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 Well something has changed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, David Schweizer said: Not at all. All you need to do is save the "New Content" page in your bookmarks, rather than the Home page, it will then open without the anoying "agreement" page. Well that worked, but I cannot edit my posts now just upload images!! It would be nice if they warned us that they are going to mess about with the site. ............................. Edit now works, what is going on? Edited October 5, 2023 by David Schweizer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffling Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 Is agreeing to the rules done by a cookie or is it recorded in the member's database? I ask because so far I've agreed to it twice on the tablet and once on the phone. Still got three more devices I'm signed on to CWDF to use yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardang Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Tracy D'arth said: It still does not read correctly. there is an "on" missing. If I have to do this every time I am gone from the forum. Interesting that on a site which is getting increasingly rule bound the additional rule about AI has not been checked and therefore does not actually appear to make sense! more proof reading I suggest. Howard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: If you don't know, then you've clearly not read it! That's me. I just scrolled to the bottom and clicked "OK" to get rid of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 Has this been posted by a 'bot' it doesn't make any sense. The use of Large Language Model (LLM) AI generated content is not on CWDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: Large language model artificial intelligences. Computer programs that can generate human sounding text from what they have gathered by scanning training data scraped from the internet and other sources. We have seen several new users that we think are posting using this stuff from a number of places on the planet. We don't know how much of it is automated. It is a relatively new thing that has been affecting other forums too. The purpose of them doing this is unknown. So far it isn't being used to spam the forum. The text reads off, lots of filler text and rather bland. Being factual and relevant to inland boating is open to question. We don't want it on here because no computer goes boating, is planning to go boating, or has any boating experience, so anything one writes is going to be second hand at best and not contribute to the forum in a useful way. I've just reported this post as it seems to fill the criteria contained within it ... The text reads off, lots of filler text and rather bland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 8 hours ago, MtB said: That's me. I just scrolled to the bottom and clicked "OK" to get rid of it. So you agreed to the organ harvesting clause too? We'll be around shortly for your kidneys. 4 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: I've just reported this post as it seems to fill the criteria contained within it ... It's a fair cop guv. I'm an AI. Incidentally, can you tell me where I can find Sarah Conner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lowe Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 36 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: It's a fair cop guv. I'm an AI. Incidentally, can you tell me where I can find Sarah Conner? In hiding with john Connor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrodave Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 Well I think it's a bit mean, if AI want to learn about boating and ask questions the why shouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lowe Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 Is Al going to be persecuted just like pour old Bill Stickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Tracy D'arth said: I read that but do not understand large language model LLM or the abbreviation A.I. I understand AI but not with full stops. Betty, when you call me, you can call me Al. (Or, if I'm computer generated, you can put full stops in and call me A.I.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_V Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) At least the AI posts are sometimes amusing this is just f ing annoying Edited October 6, 2023 by Phoenix_V 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony1 Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 12 hours ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: Large language model artificial intelligences. Computer programs that can generate human sounding text... We have seen several new users that we think are posting using this stuff from a number of places on the planet.... The text reads off, lots of filler text and rather bland. Being factual and relevant to inland boating is open to question.... So this filter of yours prevents large blocks of bland human-sounding text from being posted? Half of the forum will be scuppered by such a thing. Still, good to know our Morlock overlords are on the case. Jolly good show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st ade Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 Give Jen a break (please) Some of the recent posts have been nearly a whole screen of information maybe contributing "be careful while charging Lead Acid" or "be sure your boat has dimensions suitable for the waterway". One or two have mentioned salt water (when the original poster made it clear they were on fresh) etc. Such posts dilute the genuine membership and their opinions. The "Accept the T's and C's" (which I've only had to do once, over three devices) is a way of easing the Mod's job - it's not "we don't like what you are posting", it's "you are breaking the T's and C's" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) Am I the only one who not only fails to understand the posts on this topic from moderators, and bordering on the dismissive? Why do they seem unable to speak in ordinary language? Edited October 6, 2023 by David Schweizer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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