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It was the home of John Sparrow, first clerk to the Trent & Mersey Canal. The role of a canal company clerk is often underestimated in ways such as what they did to get the canal bill through parliament and arrange for construction, land purchase etc

 

OK how about these stables ?

 

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5 hours ago, Heartland said:

A Clue- A canal on the Grand Union system built by John & James Pinkerton

 

 

3 hours ago, archie57 said:

Makes me think of Shipley lock on the Erewash.....


Is that in relation to the above question?

 

Erewash Canal is the answer.

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Remarkable in a pub, how unusual. I heard it said that Charlie Chaplin grew up at Black Patch Park

 

Now where could this be and what is the importance of the structure in the foreground?

It is still there but now surrounded by hoardings and in poor condition. The date of construction is said to be 1847.


 

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2 minutes ago, Heartland said:

Remarkable in a pub, how unusual. I heard it said that Charlie Chaplin grew up at Black Patch Park

Yes, the story in the pub is Charlie Chaplin was born in the park. But hey, whether true or not 🤷‍♀️

My mate in Cornwall is a Scarret and always reckoned he was from gypsy stock. His grandmother he discovered was a gypsy from Bilston. By coincidence he was dealing in Romany Caravans at the the time. So it was an added interest when I saw the name Scarret on the plaque. 
 

 

right, the photo, looks

like BCN again…but where..

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1 hour ago, Heartland said:

Remarkable in a pub, how unusual. I heard it said that Charlie Chaplin grew up at Black Patch Park

 

Now where could this be and what is the importance of the structure in the foreground?

It is still there but now surrounded by hoardings and in poor condition. The date of construction is said to be 1847.


 

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Is it some of the old warehouses by Gloucester Docks...?

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Yes Gloucester Docks, what makes this of interest is that it was a Midland Railway canal and railway interchange point. Some sources refer to coke ovens being built there for MR locomotives, but that has be checked as has any earlier sidings that were Birmingham & Gloucester Railway in origin, That this structure remains is remarkable.

 

Of course the taller structure adjacent was a separate structure, called the "Pillar Warehouse".

 

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I'm concerned that they may have not carried out a full risk assessment. 

 

Full length narrow boats about 1 tonne per inch immersion? 

So 50 tonnes of iron maybe. 

 

(back of envelope calculation)

It looks like only one side of the structure so could be less. 31 ton and 5 hundredweight 16lbs and 4 ounces.

 

(sliderule) 

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4 minutes ago, magnetman said:

I'm concerned that they may have not carried out a full risk assessment. 

 

Full length narrow boats about 1 tonne per inch immersion? 

So 50 tonnes of iron maybe. 

 

(back of envelope calculation)

It looks like only one side of the structure so could be less. 31 ton and 5 hundredweight 16lbs and 4 ounces.

 

(sliderule) 


Don’t ignore the amount of wood either. That must carry some weight. 
 

I was guessing in the region of 40 ton. 
On the grounds 20 ton would perhaps take a boat down to the gunnels ? 🤷‍♀️
And they appear half way down(ish) Dunno. 
 

11 minutes ago, magnetman said:

(back of envelope calculation)

It looks like only one side of the structure so could be less. 31 ton and 5 hundredweight 16lbs and 4 ounces

 What’s that in ship loads?

Is a ship load worth less than 4 narrowboat loads?

 

Yes it’s one side and half of the span, ain’t it?

 

 

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If it is 1886 I think they are horse boats. 

 

Building things looked like a lot of fun all those yars ago. Must have been pretty wicked up on top. 

1 minute ago, Heartland said:

Another river bridge. This one was completed in 1907 and is steel. It replaced an earlier iron bridge, and that bridge replaced one of timber.

 

 

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Nuneham railway bridge just above Abingdon ?

 

Currently in a parlous state and closed to rail traffic. The central part has been subsiding for a while. 

(edit to add question mark as might not be Nuneham).

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/our-routes/western/nuneham-viaduct-monitoring-and-stabilisation/

 

reopening 10th June. 

(one hopes)

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