Lockdown ? What Lockdown?

[tree monkey]

8 minutes ago, Parahandy said:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-7361213/UK-authorities-chase-foreign-drivers-offences-committed-roads.html

 

I have already given you the evidence but as usual you ignore it in favour of your usual PC Neo Liberal Rant , here it is again , third paragraph down . I am absolutely stunned at your ignorance when it comes to matters such as these , this Country has a largely transient Immigrant Population , even if the Law as in this case involving Driving Offences didn't favour them , where do you think the Manpower comes to chase these People up ? The Law Abiding Englishman on the other hand with his name on the Electoral Register , his kids at the Local School is simply an easier proposition to Prosecute . Am I Xenophobic for merely pointing out this reality ?

The article seems to suggest that because of a legal loophole or difference  in the way the UK impose fines the UK are unable to request appropriate details, that's a legal issue nothing to do with "Johnny foreigner" as such, the rest of the article goes on to moan about lack of UK traffic police

[Parahandy]

10 minutes ago, tree monkey said:

The article seems to suggest that because of a legal loophole or difference  in the way the UK impose fines the UK are unable to request appropriate details, that's a legal issue nothing to do with "Johnny foreigner" as such, the rest of the article goes on to moan about lack of UK traffic police

I have no interest arguing the semantics of the situation , I believe we were talking about Police and Authorities in General pursuing Easy Targets , i.e the generally law abiding Englishman . After watching a Rogue Landlord Program which covered the problems of London Councils tracking down mainly Foreign Landlords who take advantage of fellow Immigrants from their own Country I used the phrase in an earlier Post " Aslam down the Local Kebab Shop subletting the Flat upstairs to several workers ". Predictably this upset the usual PC Remainer Brigade one of which accused me of Xenophobia . Are you bored now ? I certainly am .

[tree monkey]

8 minutes ago, Parahandy said:

I have no interest arguing the semantics of the situation , I believe we were talking about Police and Authorities in General pursuing Easy Targets , i.e the generally law abiding Englishman . After watching a Rogue Landlord Program which covered the problems of London Councils tracking down mainly Foreign Landlords who take advantage of fellow Immigrants from their own Country I used the phrase in an earlier Post " Aslam down the Local Kebab Shop subletting the Flat upstairs to several workers ". Predictably this upset the usual PC Remainer Brigade one of which accused me of Xenophobia . Are you bored now ? I certainly am .

Fair enough but the article doesn't really do much to support the premise.

 

Not sure what the rest of that post has to do with the article posted as an example either.

[dor]

1 hour ago, Richard10002 said:

 

Is it any wonder that the media are sick and tired of being fobbed off at the daily propaganda presentations.

Except the Daily Express, which seems to think the Government are doing a wonderful job.

 

Even the Daily Mail is being critical!

[cuthound]

4 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

It depends how you are judged for not hitting that target. Is the person who sets an easy target and hits it every time better that the person who sets a hard target but never quite achieves it. The Government could have set a target of 1000 corona tests a month and it it, would that be better that 10000 tests and only achieving 9000

 

But ministers are notorious for setting themselves easy targets!

 

Im sure Matt Hancock must have thought that well over 100,000 tests a day was achievable by the end of April when he announced it.

[ditchcrawler]

I wish I hadnt added the bit about the Government now. It was really about people setting targets

[Machpoint005]

5 hours ago, Parahandy said:

>>your usual PC Neo Liberal Rant<<

 

(1) There is nothing "PC" about seeking evidence;

 

(2) I am no neoliberal (one word) but you have previously shown that you don't actually know what the term means;

 

(3) I'm not ranting;

 

(4) The evidence you present illustrates a failing in the UK legal system, no more, no less. Are you advocating a change in the law, or do you just not like foreign people very much?

 

 

[LadyG]

On 20/04/2020 at 20:18, MartynG said:

There is significantly less air pollution recently - sky looks blue, or with lots of blue bits ,  more often than it has been for a while. The air is fresher.

Maybe that has had an influence on the weather  too.

 

We have had some rain here but the ground is quite dry. 

So nothing to do with anticyclone?

[Machpoint005]

1 minute ago, LadyG said:

So nothing to do with anticyclone?

 

Is Aunty Cyclone that big high pressure lump over Scandinavia?

[peterboat]

9 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said:

 

Is Aunty Cyclone that big high pressure lump over Scandinavia?

I am enjoying this weather, but could do with it raining at night for an hour or so keep the dust down and ensure I get a bumper crop, plus my olive tree is doing very well dontyaknow Ian

[Machpoint005]

5 minutes ago, peterboat said:

I am enjoying this weather, but could do with it raining at night for an hour or so keep the dust down and ensure I get a bumper crop, plus my olive tree is doing very well dontyaknow Ian

Nice one Peter. I expect Olive isn't too mithered about a dry spell!

 

[peterboat]

Just now, Machpoint005 said:

Nice one Peter. I expect Olive isn't too mithered about a dry spell!

 

Loves it! fingers crossed for more than 5 olives this year ?

[Machpoint005]

We've recently moved a grape vine, and the new buds and leaves are still growing, so we might just have a nice big vine to sit under come September. Grapes are possible, but were unreliable anyway before my intervention!

1 minute ago, peterboat said:

Loves it! fingers crossed for more than 5 olives this year ?

Don't eat 'em all at once. Or, enjoy that half-teaspoon of oil!

 

 

 

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[Momac]

48 minutes ago, LadyG said:

So nothing to do with anticyclone?

Does that explain reduced air pollution?

 

[mark99]

57 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said:

We've recently moved a grape vine, and the new buds and leaves are still growing, so we might just have a nice big vine to sit under come September. Grapes are possible, but were unreliable anyway before my intervention!

Don't eat 'em all at once. Or, enjoy that half-teaspoon of oil!

 

 

 

Not sure but is there not a long process between olives being "ripe" and being edible?

[Ex Brummie]

9 hours ago, Mike Todd said:

For the record, if you read my post carefully, I did not accuse anyone personally of being either an anarchist or a fascist - it would be hard to be both anyway!

 

My warning, however, was that if you promote the view that because some people break the law and get away with it then that is justification for all of us to do so. Take a look at Brazil(Bolsanaro) to see right now how such thinking can lead to either extreme, often in increasing reaction to the other.

The use of OR between the two options does not suggest one can be both.

I fail to see how you can interpret my post as condoning law breaking. I bemoan the fact that some people do and seem to get away with it.

[peterboat]

2 hours ago, Machpoint005 said:

We've recently moved a grape vine, and the new buds and leaves are still growing, so we might just have a nice big vine to sit under come September. Grapes are possible, but were unreliable anyway before my intervention!

Don't eat 'em all at once. Or, enjoy that half-teaspoon of oil!

 

 

 

I have two well established grape vines in a greenhouse at the allotment,  I reckon that we might be the wine producers of the north given that Europes wine seems destined to become medical alcohol! 

[Naughty Cal]

2 hours ago, peterboat said:

I am enjoying this weather, but could do with it raining at night for an hour or so keep the dust down and ensure I get a bumper crop, plus my olive tree is doing very well dontyaknow Ian

Despite what people seem to believe olive trees actually do need a fair bit of water and some cold weather to produce a decent crop of olives.

 

The pair we have either side of our front door are finding the current dry spell too dry and we are having to water them heavily every week. (They are in a south facing spot in full sun all day though) 

2 hours ago, MartynG said:

Does that explain reduced air pollution?

 

I said weeks ago the air was much fresher and was shouted down for it, it couldn't possibly be true! 

 

Well it most certainly is true now and it was three weeks ago as well! 

[peterboat]

28 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said:

Despite what people seem to believe olive trees actually do need a fair bit of water and some cold weather to produce a decent crop of olives.

 

The pair we have either side of our front door are finding the current dry spell too dry and we are having to water them heavily every week. (They are in a south facing spot in full sun all day though) 

I said weeks ago the air was much fresher and was shouted down for it, it couldn't possibly be true! 

 

Well it most certainly is true now and it was three weeks ago as well! 

It's south facing as well I give it a drink when I fill the boat up with water,  when this virus is over I will plant it at Jaynes I think. I am expecting a big crop of olives this year fingers crossed, the 5 last year were very tasty 

[Jennifer McM]

2 minutes ago, peterboat said:

It's south facing as well I give it a drink when I fill the boat up with water,  when this virus is over I will plant it at Jaynes I think. I am expecting a big crop of olives this year fingers crossed, the 5 last year were very tasty 

Don't you have to pickle them?

[peterboat]

13 minutes ago, Jennifer McM said:

Don't you have to pickle them?

You do I popped them in salt water, they were ok

[The Welsh Cruiser]

10 hours ago, Parahandy said:

I have already given you the evidence but as usual you ignore it in favour of your usual PC Neo Liberal Rant

I could maybe improve on your description, if you don't mind?

 

The poster in question is indeed PC, will ignore any amount of evidence that suggests different groups of people behave in different ways, for example. I'd describe the position as 'modern social liberalism'. Communism is at the core of the thinking but there's an acceptance that this can't work. Also, many 'modern social liberals' are financially successful as individuals. So while communism might be great in theory they don't really want to be 'equal' to everyone else so best tone it down a bit eh? What they really enjoy is their personal feeling of moral superiority over others. This self perceived moral superiority might be the very best describer of modern social liberals. So while conservatives, libertarians, traditional socialists etc. etc. all believe their way is best, they don't feel that others, who have different views, are inferior to them as human beings. This lofty feeling is the sole reserve of modern social liberals, I'm afraid.       

[frahkn]

3 hours ago, Naughty Cal said:

Despite what people seem to believe olive trees actually do need a fair bit of water and some cold weather to produce a decent crop of olives.

 

The pair we have either side of our front door are finding the current dry spell too dry and we are having to water them heavily every week. (They are in a south facing spot in full sun all day though) 

I said weeks ago the air was much fresher and was shouted down for it, it couldn't possibly be true! 

 

Well it most certainly is true now and it was three weeks ago as well! 

Are they in pots? I have an Olive tree in my south facing front garden (in the ground) and it always does well.

 

I could (but don't) water it now but usually I am away on the boat for most of the summer so it doesn't get watered.

 

It doesn't seem to mind.

[Machpoint005]

11 hours ago, The Welsh Cruiser said:

What they really enjoy is their personal feeling of moral superiority over others.

 

Whoever "they" may be, where is your evidence for this? Have you never heard of altruism?

 

Unsupported spouting of Daily Express/Daily Mail ignorance is not taking the debate anywhere.

[The Welsh Cruiser]

1 hour ago, Machpoint005 said:

 

Whoever "they" may be, where is your evidence for this? Have you never heard of altruism?

 

Unsupported spouting of Daily Express/Daily Mail ignorance is not taking the debate anywhere.

The evidence is of the subtle variety, gleaned from the reading of many posts. It's the 'tone'...

 

I don't read any newspapers. These only serve to reinforce the bigotry of those reading them. That's assuming that the reader chooses a title that supports his or her political stance of course; this would be the majority; I'd assume. It would be good if people read papers with the opposite view to theirs; give them a better understanding about the motivations behind views that differ to theirs. I don't think many people do that.