Serious Incident - Shropshire Union Nr Chester 11/03/2015

[Victor Vectis]

Well - this would not have happened in Saudi Arabia...

Do they have navigable waterways in the worlds 'largest cat litter tray' as my father in law called Saudi?

[Willber G]

Whatever the underlying causes and whichever camp you are in (feckless vs unstable), I think it sensible to try to ensure that it doesn't happen again. Given the woman's apparent lack of remorse (even denial of events), temporarily disabling the boat while investigations continue would seem a reasonable option.

[MHS]

Whatever the underlying causes and whichever camp you are in (feckless vs unstable), I think it sensible to try to ensure that it doesn't happen again. Given the woman's apparent lack of remorse (even denial of events), temporarily disabling the boat while investigations continue would seem a reasonable option.

That may be sensible, but is there such a law within CRT's remit, to allow this?

[Markinaboat]

What blog do you keep bleating about?

the same as you my friend

[Paul C]

Its not CRT's remit, its a police matter. I don't know whether they have imposed bail conditions etc

[Naughty Cal]

the same as you my friend

?

[Willber G]

That may be sensible, but is there such a law within CRT's remit, to allow this?

 

I was thinking of the police rather than CRT, assuming that criminal investigations are in hand.

 

 

(Edited because I couldn't spell "than".)

Edited March 17, 2015 by Willber G

[MHS]

Its not CRT's remit, its a police matter. I don't know whether they have imposed bail conditions etc

Well I'm sure they don't have any authority to disable someone's boat either.

[Paul C]

Well I'm sure they don't have any authority to disable someone's boat either.

 

They (the police) have the authority to impose bail conditions, or not grant it at all.

[gaggle]

Steady on. She hasn't killed anyone!

Nor have people who moor a bit to long in one place or just not move as much as others , funny you don't say steady on , when dealing with them ,

Why would you of all people try to minimise this womans actions.

[RLWP]

?

 

No, I don't know either

 

Richard

[Alan de Enfield]

Whatever the underlying causes and whichever camp you are in (feckless vs unstable), I think it sensible to try to ensure that it doesn't happen again. Given the woman's apparent lack of remorse (even denial of events), temporarily disabling the boat while investigations continue would seem a reasonable option.

 

Then, after 14 days of it not being moved C&RT could section 8 the boat and remove it from the waterways.

 

Although there may be a defence under the 1995 Act :

 

"...........without remaining continuously in any one place for more than 14 days or such longer period as is reasonable in the circumstances".

[Paul C]

 

Then, after 14 days of it not being moved C&RT could section 8 the boat and remove it from the waterways.

 

Although there may be a defence under the 1995 Act :

 

"...........without remaining continuously in any one place for more than 14 days or such longer period as is reasonable in the circumstances".

 

....Except she's not a CCer, read the detail properly.

[churchward]

Do they have navigable waterways in the worlds 'largest cat litter tray' as my father in law called Saudi?

Suez canal? I know it's Egypt's but I think a Saudi border goes to the eastern edge but not entirely sure. If not I guess they just have the red sea on the Western edge of the country.

Edited March 17, 2015 by churchward

[Alan de Enfield]

 

....Except she's not a CCer, read the detail properly.

 

The new T&Cs impose the same conditions on those with a home mooring - there have been several threads about them

[bizzard]

Do they have navigable waterways in the worlds 'largest cat litter tray' as my father in law called Saudi?

A couple of Irish builder friends of mine went to Saudi Arabia on holiday. They felt very intimidated by all the sand, and decided to terminate their holiday before the cement arrived.

[Willber G]

 

The new T&Cs impose the same conditions on those with a home mooring - there have been several threads about them

 

Not while actually on their home mooring which is where I presumed the boat would be sited.

[Paul C]

 

The new T&Cs impose the same conditions on those with a home mooring - there have been several threads about them

 

Do you HONESTLY believe the quoted section of the law, applies here and now??????

 

1. They're PROPOSED DRAFT amendments, not finalised

2. They don't come into effect yet

3. The wording of the proposed T&C changes is not the same as the law, nor does it refer to it

4. The law you quoted ONLY applies to CCers, there is an either/or choice in the declaration.

 

I guess you could say what you said, but its somewhat scaremongering, and somewhat misleading too.

[Mike Tee]

A couple of Irish builder friends of mine went to Saudi Arabia on holiday. They felt very intimidated by all the sand, and decided to terminate their holiday before the cement arrived.

A couple of Irish builder friends of mine went to Saudi Arabia on holiday. They felt very intimidated by all the sand, and decided to terminate their holiday before the cement arrived.

Certainly a helluva beach

[Lmcgrath87]

I've skimmed this thread. But this was on the news today locally to me. So maybe she will have to pay for her damage?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31922713

[Paul C]

I've skimmed this thread. But this was on the news today locally to me. So maybe she will have to pay for her damage?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31922713

 

That's a different story in a different part of the country, this occurred on the SU in Cheshire.

[Willber G]

That's a different story in a different part of the country, this occurred on the SU in Cheshire.

 

I think she means that there is a precedent for this type of incident rather than it is the same one.

[Naughty Cal]

 

That's a different story in a different part of the country, this occurred on the SU in Cheshire.

I expect it will be a similar outcome however.

Edited March 17, 2015 by Naughty Cal

[Lmcgrath87]

 

That's a different story in a different part of the country, this occurred on the SU in Cheshire.

 

oh I know it's a different story, but atleast this boater didn't get away with it, so maybe the offender in question will have to deal with consequences to her actions.

[Paul C]

I expect it will be a similar outcome however.

 

Will be interesting to see what developments occur, I can't imagine CRT will be able to prove speeding, but there's a lot of evidence under a more general offence such as criminal damage.