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Mike Adams Rising Star

Mike Adams

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Ah I regret selling the Silverlit! I did think of buying back when I passed it ther a few years ago. Now that did have a Ford 6 cylinder that I dragged out of the Gannex Mac  Factory in the East End of London. The engines in the White Heather I believe were as follows. Originally fitted with a Robey 2 cylinder semidesel, changed by waterways to Lister FR3 both in the original location. Jason fitted the Ford under the rear deck and when I bought it was shot. Then fitted nice dorman LD3 crane engine (too heavy) and then the toyota which it still has.

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archie57 Proficient

archie57

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51 minutes ago, Mike Adams said:

Ah I regret selling the Silverlit! I did think of buying back when I passed it ther a few years ago. Now that did have a Ford 6 cylinder that I dragged out of the Gannex Mac  Factory in the East End of London. The engines in the White Heather I believe were as follows. Originally fitted with a Robey 2 cylinder semidesel, changed by waterways to Lister FR3 both in the original location. Jason fitted the Ford under the rear deck and when I bought it was shot. Then fitted nice dorman LD3 crane engine (too heavy) and then the toyota which it still has.

 - plus the Petter PD4.........

magnetman Veteran II

magnetman

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Nice hull shame about the cabin. 

 

I wonder if that hook on the front is original or someone added it as it looked good. 

 

Seems improbable it is original as it would tend to get caught on things. 

 

 

 

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Derek R. Veteran

Derek R.

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The hook is quite possibly from its ice boat past, but as it appears to be fixed atop a comparatively new block of wood, likely to have been placed in a: "Where shall we put this" moment.

 

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Base of the mast is a most probable position. Obviously the cabin prevents that.

A lightweight cabin in wood on wooden frames would have made it less 'tender', but with any round bilged boat, there will be 'fun'.

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magnetman Veteran II

magnetman

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According to the advert it previously had a GRP cabin which seems sensible. 

 

Well spotted about the hook ! 

MtB Veteran II

MtB

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47 minutes ago, magnetman said:

According to the advert it previously had a GRP cabin which seems sensible. 

 

Well spotted about the hook ! 

 

"No cabin" would have been the only historically appropriate option. :) 

 

Derek R. Veteran

Derek R.

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Gosh, that brings back memories. We went to view ALCOR in 1979. I think Chris Pererrer [sp?] owned it. Asking price was £11,000.

It had wind up bus windows and no access to the front deck from the cabin. Still composite back then. Had a lovely back cabin.

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Tam & Di Veteran

Tam & Di

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Scott Pereira and his wife owned Alcor - his wife's name is Hilary, and their names "Scott and Hilary" on the cabin side goes along with Redshank & Greenshank owners Nick Gray and Corinna Brown's "Brown and Gray" by serendipity as the most memorable owner pairings.

 

Tam

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Derek R. Veteran

Derek R.

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'Pereira', I knew I had the spelling wrong! (Don't know where I got 'Chris' from. Age I guess.) I believe they had SABRINA, the inspectors/directors launch around that same time.

Ta for the correction.

Liam Veteran II

Liam

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It's the end of an era...

Or alternatively the chance to start a new one.

 

Copied from a Facebook post...

 

This is to let people know that our beautiful 152 year old Pauline is for sale. It's time for her to have new owners that love her as much as we do. She is a 57’long, 14’ wide ‘Calder and Hebble' Keel, an iron British Barge built in 1869 in Goole, Yorkshire, for the Aire and Calder Navigation Company. She is on the national historic ships register. She fits the northern waterways and wide canals of great Britain.
She was bought by the Lorenz family in 1976 and converted into our home. The Lorenz family have lived aboard since 1989. Pauline’s diesel tank hold 100 gallons and is full. Engine make and model: “Parsons Pike”, based on ford 4D, Completely overhauled by Paul. She has a Vetus M205 6KW generator
a 600 gallon water tank and 50 gallon header tank. She comes as a fully equipped liveaboard. You can read about our family’s journey to Europe on Pauline in ’Snail’s Pace’ by Gabrielle Lorenz
PM me for details

 

For those of you not on Facebook, drop me a message and I'll PM you a phone number for those interested.

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agg221 Rising Star

agg221

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Re, Oates as listed above. Well our offer has been accepted so subject to anything untoward happening it will shortly be ours. To respond to a couple of the comments made. Firstly, it is a lot less tender than we had feared. It does move if people move around inside it, but not alarmingly and it doesn't wobble so much as reposition to where the weight is distributed. I suspect this is because most of the time when you are inside, your weight actually bears low down on the floor so doesn't induce much turning moment. It certainly leans less than a hireboat after a week with a full toilet tank in need of a pumpout!

 

Secondly on the hook, yes that is original and in the correct place, although the block has been renewed at some point (to the original design). Although just buying this one, I am not new to iceboats (just haven't been very visible for the past ~20yrs). I have photos of Oates pre-conversion which show the hook in exactly the same position. Some of the BCN boats had a T-stud but most had the hook on the bow and two pairs of the rings on posts on the sides. I suspect it was because you could get a more positive fix for multiple ropes on the ring than a stud.

 

Alec

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stagedamager Experienced

stagedamager

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3 hours ago, agg221 said:

Re, Oates as listed above. Well our offer has been accepted so subject to anything untoward happening it will shortly be ours. To respond to a couple of the comments made. Firstly, it is a lot less tender than we had feared. It does move if people move around inside it, but not alarmingly and it doesn't wobble so much as reposition to where the weight is distributed. I suspect this is because most of the time when you are inside, your weight actually bears low down on the floor so doesn't induce much turning moment. It certainly leans less than a hireboat after a week with a full toilet tank in need of a pumpout!

 

Secondly on the hook, yes that is original and in the correct place, although the block has been renewed at some point (to the original design). Although just buying this one, I am not new to iceboats (just haven't been very visible for the past ~20yrs). I have photos of Oates pre-conversion which show the hook in exactly the same position. Some of the BCN boats had a T-stud but most had the hook on the bow and two pairs of the rings on posts on the sides. I suspect it was because you could get a more positive fix for multiple ropes on the ring than a stud.

 

Alec

Congratulations on your imminent purchase. She is a lovely boat, she moored with us for a while at Langley Mill, if you need any help with the Kelvin, give us a shout, we have a Kelvin expert on site!

Best of luck!

 

Dan

agg221 Rising Star

agg221

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18 minutes ago, stagedamager said:

Congratulations on your imminent purchase. She is a lovely boat, she moored with us for a while at Langley Mill, if you need any help with the Kelvin, give us a shout, we have a Kelvin expert on site!

Best of luck!

 

Dan

Thanks Dan, I take it she was up with you fairly recently, after the rebuild? The owner mentioned that he had been up the Erewash. Very useful to know that there is a Kelvin expert available - they are lovely engines but I have spent more time on the phone over the past couple of weeks satisfying myself that there is enough expertise and are enough parts squirrelled away in stashes around the country to keep it going if needed than on any other aspect of the purchase!

 

Alec

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stagedamager

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1 minute ago, agg221 said:

Thanks Dan, I take it she was up with you fairly recently, after the rebuild? The owner mentioned that he had been up the Erewash. Very useful to know that there is a Kelvin expert available - they are lovely engines but I have spent more time on the phone over the past couple of weeks satisfying myself that there is enough expertise and are enough parts squirrelled away in stashes around the country to keep it going if needed than on any other aspect of the purchase!

 

Alec

Give us a shout if you need anything, my brother has a few Kelvin spares, including a few J bits I think, and has worked on that engine. She moored with us once the cabin was completed until May this year.

agg221 Rising Star

agg221

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11 hours ago, stagedamager said:

Give us a shout if you need anything, my brother has a few Kelvin spares, including a few J bits I think, and has worked on that engine. She moored with us once the cabin was completed until May this year.

Thanks Dan, I'll drop you a PM when I have made enough posts for that to be unlocked.

 

Alec

DHutch Veteran II

DHutch

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On 01/09/2021 at 19:53, Liam said:

It's the end of an era...

Or alternatively the chance to start a new one.

 

Copied from a Facebook post...

 

This is to let people know that our beautiful 152 year old Pauline is for sale. It's time for her to have new owners that love her as much as we do. She is a 57’long, 14’ wide ‘Calder and Hebble' Keel, an iron British Barge built in 1869 in Goole, Yorkshire, for the Aire and Calder Navigation Company. She is on the national historic ships register. She fits the northern waterways and wide canals of great Britain.
She was bought by the Lorenz family in 1976 and converted into our home. The Lorenz family have lived aboard since 1989. Pauline’s diesel tank hold 100 gallons and is full. Engine make and model: “Parsons Pike”, based on ford 4D, Completely overhauled by Paul. She has a Vetus M205 6KW generator
a 600 gallon water tank and 50 gallon header tank. She comes as a fully equipped liveaboard. You can read about our family’s journey to Europe on Pauline in ’Snail’s Pace’ by Gabrielle Lorenz
PM me for details

 

For those of you not on Facebook, drop me a message and I'll PM you a phone number for those interested.

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Yes indeed,

 

Lovely boat.

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Nightwatch

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On 06/09/2021 at 21:11, stagedamager said:

Congratulations on your imminent purchase. She is a lovely boat, she moored with us for a while at Langley Mill, if you need any help with the Kelvin, give us a shout, we have a Kelvin expert on site!

Best of luck!

 

Dan

That’s not Dan’s boat,  is it? Dan.

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