magpie patrick Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Trivial question, but it's got me.... and I need to do other things Article in Waterways World this month telling the stories of some liveaboards and this is one of the illustrations. Unusually I haven't a clue where this lock is, and it's bugging me! Anyone know? I'm sure someone on here will! Thank you 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Unusual for a lock side to have larssen piles. Its not somewhere I have been but I think it could be Lee or Stort somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Lovely tunnel light ☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, magnetman said: Unusual for a lock side to have larssen piles. Never knew the proper name. I've always called it crinkle cut piling. Used in recent, as in the last 50 years locks. See, for example the upgraded locks on the S&SYN in late '70's early '80's. Not that that's where the photo was taken, which I don't recognise at all. http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk/sheffield/sy37.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agg221 Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Could it be K&A? One of the former turf-sided locks? I have a vague recollection of having seen Larssen piling there but that would have been 30 years ago. Alec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, agg221 said: Could it be K&A? One of the former turf-sided locks? I have a vague recollection of having seen Larssen piling there but that would have been 30 years ago. Alec I was thinking the same. There are several K&A locks with that weird over-sized piling on the sides instead of the normal brick or stonework. I was also thinking River Avon but this doesn't fit with the comment they are on their way to their new leisure mooring (presumably to live on!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Lewis Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 hours ago, magnetman said: Unusual for a lock side to have larssen piles. Its not somewhere I have been but I think it could be Lee or Stort somewhere. ISTR that the Warwickshire Avon locks were sheet piled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Tim Lewis said: ISTR that the Warwickshire Avon locks were sheet piled Yeah that's the Avon I meant! (Not the K&A Avon.) P.S. How many River Avons are there anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladine Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, MtB said: Yeah that's the Avon I meant! (Not the K&A Avon.) P.S. How many River Avons are there anyway? Eight, apparently 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterF Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Locks on the Ribble link are sheet piled sides but that is a bit far from London base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 The handrails look like a Warwickshire Avon lock. And aren't all rivers avons? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Captain Pegg said: The handrails look like a Warwickshire Avon lock. And aren't all rivers avons? I think some might be Evians... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenA Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, MtB said: I think some might be Evians... or Dees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Etymology. Afon = River. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, magnetman said: Etymology. Afon = River. Is that Welshish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Yes. Also a clue for the original photo is the lock is at an unusual angle to the waterway. It looks like a junction. Or a sharp turn which presumably means it is a river not a canal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, MtB said: Is that Welshish? Yes, but that’s the ancient language of the whole of these islands. Bredon in Worcestershire is named from two ancient words for hill. So you can cruise on the River River past the Hill Hill Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onewheeler Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 It looks very Warwickshire Avon, that appears to be a river on the other side of the gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroudwater1 Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Is it the Avon lock where a boat was sunk on the left side by the weir channel for a while 3 years ago ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Stroudwater1 said: Is it the Avon lock where a boat was sunk on the left side by the weir channel for a while 3 years ago ? Bet it was 6 years or more and its still there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie patrick Posted November 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 The few clues I'd picked up were the sheet piling, which is found on the Kennet, the upper (Warwickshire) Avon and The Savick Brook. The gates are wooden, and from memory the gates on the upper Avon are all steel, as, I think, are the ones on the Savick Brook, and those handrails don't look like CRT'S handiwork. They look like Lower Avon handrails, but all the Lower Avon locks are masonry, concrete block or brick. I'm reassured that no one has given me a blindingly obvious answer, it means I'm not going daft! But I'd still like to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, magpie patrick said: I'm reassured that no one has given me a blindingly obvious answer, it means I'm not going daft! But I'd still like to know! The big pool in the river section below looks awfully like the K&A at the juntion with Burfield Mill where the river leaves the canal. Except there is no lock just there! My money is on it turning out to be a K&A lock. Even though I don't recognise the railings on the gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, magpie patrick said: and those handrails don't look like CRT'S handiwork. And the wooden planking along the top of the piles doesn't look like BW/CRT's handiwork either. The Ribble Link piled locks have a concrete coping along the top. I would suspect that any 'professionally' designed and built lock would have a concrete coping, which suggests this is a volunteer built lock, but where? It's not the Upper Avon, which have distinctive steel balance beams, and most locks also have a footbridge at the downstream end. Edited November 12, 2023 by David Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenA Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, David Mack said: And the wooden planking along the top of the piles doesn't look like BW/CRT's handiwork either. The Ribble Link piled locks have a concrete coping along the top. I would suspect that any 'professionally' designed and built lock would have a concrete coping, which suggests this is a volunteer built lock, but where? It's not the Upper Avon, which have distinctive steel balance beams, and most locks also have a footbridge at the downstream end. The wooden coping is unusual - and I'm sure I've worked a lock with it. Also the tail gate hand rails look like they're made of scaffolding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Captain Pegg said: Yes, but that’s the ancient language of the whole of these islands. Bredon in Worcestershire is named from two ancient words for hill. So you can cruise on the River River past the Hill Hill Hill. All over what became England, recently arrived Saxons in the fifth century or so asked a recently conquered local "What's that called?" The answer they got, "That's called a river", or "That's called a hill". 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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