March of the Widebeams

[peterboat]

18 hours ago, magnetman said:

 

I thought the BMW crowd had gone Tesla. M3? 

 

 

They blatantly copied German car makers branding. 

 

Model S = Mercedes S class

Model X = BMW Xx series

Model 3 = BMW 3 series/Merc C class (ABC same thing)

 

Model Y = Asking a question. 

 

 

Model Y most popular car in the world currently so copying nothing 

[IanD]

He did say "Model Y -- asking a question", which is exactly what the last post says at the bottom... 😉

[Willonaboat]

Tesla Models: S 3 X Y.

 

Apparently Elon wanted the 3 to be an E but Ford objected (Mach E).

 

[magnetman]

Oh yes more marketing. 

 

 

[Willonaboat]

6 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Oh yes more marketing. 

 

 

 

Yes but Tesla hasn't grown to the size it has in the relatively short timespan it's been around because the products are cr@p. (Most) people aren't stupid. People buy Teslas because they like what they see and they see what they're getting for their money relative to the offerings from other manufacturers.

[magnetman]

Actually the market cap of Tesla doesn't have all that much to do with the cars. 

 

Its impossible given the number of vehicles they have produced for the company to be worth that much. 

 

There are other factors at play here. 

 

Hype is one word. 

I'm glad you put the (most) in there. Optimism is a wonderful thing. 

[MtB]

32 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Actually the market cap of Tesla doesn't have all that much to do with the cars. 

 

Its impossible given the number of vehicles they have produced for the company to be worth that much. 

 

There are other factors at play here. 

 

Hype is one word. 

I'm glad you put the (most) in there. Optimism is a wonderful thing. 

 

Actually the market cap of any company is usually the sum of all the anticipated dividends or ever, future-discounted to today's value. 

 

So yes, a reflection of the marketing department's expertise!

 

[Willonaboat]

The market cap is simply the number of shares in circulation x share price. There is usually a link between earnings (profit per share) and share price - the p/e ratio. Tech companies with high growth prospects typically have higher (sometimes much higher) p/e ratios than more traditional companies because people pay more for higher growth prospects. In the case of Tesla it has been priced as though it is a high growth tech company rather than a traditional car (for example) manufacturer. Why? Because the data it gathers from every car sold puts it years ahead of other car manufacturers who have only relatively recently started catching up. Data and the mining thereof is big business.

 

I've done well with Tesla shares. I bought and sold them previously (so the not insignificant risk was worth it). I bought again when the share price dipped and still hold them (sat on another ('paper') profit). I do technical chart analysis for fun(?) and to manage my own pension after ditching my FA several years ago, who took a percentage even if the portfolio fell in value (which it did). Nice work if you can get it. I'm not wedded to Tesla shares (or the company) and and I'll sell if/when the time is right.

 

[MtB]

11 hours ago, Willonaboat said:

The market cap is simply the number of shares in circulation x share price.

 

Well yes that is the basic definition of market cap! My comment above was intended as one (of many) potential explanations of why the price of any given share is what it is, and not ten times or a hundred times higher (or lower). 

 

I find I CBA with technical analysis. 

 

Or more accurately, I always fail at it! 

 

 

[matty40s]

The latest new addition to the monster fleet....bowthruster used in 3 second bursts approx 10 times round our corner....

Quite a lot of scrapes already seeing it has only come from Whilton..

[john6767]

I thought the CRT said there was no widebeam mooring on the narrow North Oxford when accessing the marinas there, but this booking is to spend two nights on the canal while making the passage.  I know the North Oxford is shut further north so there will not be a lot of traffic, but seems a bit off.

 

 

Oxford Canal
Location: Wide beam passage, Braunston to Dunchurch Pools
Starts At: Bridge 93/94, Braunston Junction
Ends At: Bridge 81, Borstal Bridge

Sunday 18 February 2024 09:00 until Tuesday 20 February 2024 10:00

Type: Advice 
Reason: Information

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Original message:

 

Please be advised a wide beam boat will be passing through Braunston to Dunchurch Pool from Sunday 18th February to Tuesday 20th February morning.

We kindly remind boating customers to be aware of the wide-beam boat and take extra care whilst passing through this section of the canal.

[David Mack]

Or does it mean that a single passage will take place on Sunday 18th or Monday 19th or Tuesday 20th?

[john6767]

23 minutes ago, David Mack said:

Or does it mean that a single passage will take place on Sunday 18th or Monday 19th or Tuesday 20th?

I guess that could be what it means, but it is not how it reads to me.  Why would it not have to be booked for a certain day, and time of day, as that lets people avoid it

[MtB]

1 hour ago, David Mack said:

Or does it mean that a single passage will take place on Sunday 18th or Monday 19th or Tuesday 20th?

 

If it does, then its the very thin end of a very fat wedge.

 

Next we might find all notices of fatty transits give a three day window. Then the odd window of five days, then seven. Then before we know it a single notice will be advising us multiple transits will take place in a month-long time period. 

[Hudds Lad]

The problem with the inaccuracy of CRT notices is you've no idea if this is accurate or a cock-up.

It could be a single passage on one of those days if someone clicked the wrong button, it could be an out and back trip that they've left detail out of, it could be correct and the person booking was saying they might be there Sunday or if the weather is crap they'll be there the next day or the day after.

Nobody knows. 🤷‍♂️

[Stroudwater1]

9 hours ago, john6767 said:

I thought the CRT said there was no widebeam mooring on the narrow North Oxford when accessing the marinas there, but this booking is to spend two nights on the canal while making the passage.  I know the North Oxford is shut further north so there will not be a lot of traffic, but seems a bit off.

 

 

 

 

Its definitely off . I guess is this is advance notice and a more precise time  may be narrowed down as an addendum nearer the date.

 

It was quite busy on Sunday, as we know theres a lot of marinas the Dunchurch end of the closure, as well as a number of hire boats and the usual boat share craft out and about . I didn't honestly feel it was any quieter than usual. It could be that boats usually heading towards the Coventry are coming down to Braunston and on instead. 

[matty40s]

Tale of Two Fatties 

 

Pictured are 2 wide beams, the one on the right has been swinging the lead since before Christmas...mooring near to the A5 bridge, at one point exactly 14 foot and 3" across from another moored boat.

The story is that is was ordered 2 packed, was launched last year,  and it has all fallen off. It was taken to Whilton to get redone. Then it has come off again, so now, they are waiting for another 2 packing slot at Whilton and are happy to inconvenience local boater services since just before Christmas.

The one on the left is getting lifted out and going Cambridge way.

Unfortunately, they have opened a can of worms with the traffic police after trying to book a passage out of Whilton, turned down due to roadworks. The national exceptional load police gang have decided that not only can they make pots of money off the HS2 traffic, they have widened the net and now decided that boat traffic is a good revenue generator.

So they have decided that the country roads from marinas are an ideal high risk journey, and quoted a fee of £2k for the Whilton to motorway journey.

The boat was rebooked for a lift from Stowe Hill. Boats have been lifted in and out of here from lorries for over 40 years. Collingwood and New&Usel... have lifted hundreds in ...

The new guidelines are that an escort is needed to and from the A5....a distance of 150m , the Heyford Lane section only

So 2 police vehicles arrived at 8.15am and were on site until the lorry left at 10.30am.

Cost to customer moving widebeam £2I, on top of carnage and lorry transport to cambridge way. ....and there may also be the same cost at the other end if the police movements gang have their eyes open and assessment forms ready!!.

 

 

 

Edited February 17 by matty40s

[pearley]

The one on the left is getting lifted out and going Cambridgep way.

 

That one looks very much like the one craned here at Hartford a week or so ago and now moored up from us. Yet another boat that will never cruise other than over to the pumpout.

 

If it is then entrance is directly off the main road so no escort required.

[Captain Pegg]

8 hours ago, Stroudwater1 said:

 

Its definitely off . I guess is this is advance notice and a more precise time  may be narrowed down as an addendum nearer the date.

 

It was quite busy on Sunday, as we know theres a lot of marinas the Dunchurch end of the closure, as well as a number of hire boats and the usual boat share craft out and about . I didn't honestly feel it was any quieter than usual. It could be that boats usually heading towards the Coventry are coming down to Braunston and on instead. 

There’s no closure.

 

If I were due to be transiting this section on those dates - as it happens I’ll be south of Braunston - I wouldn’t change my plans one bit for this.

 

That said the notice really ought to cover one single day as that’s the requirement for moving on that section.

 

So who is the contact to raise that issue with?

[Lady M]

Try filling in the enquiry form on the CRT website?

 

I always get annoyed that these notices ask us narrowboaters to take care.

[Sea Dog]

9 minutes ago, Lady M said:

I always get annoyed that these notices ask us narrowboaters to take care.

My plan for "taking care" in such circumstances, if on the offside, is to immediately pull in to the towpath side and stop rather than continue and be forced into the trees and shallows. 

[Captain Pegg]

22 minutes ago, Lady M said:

Try filling in the enquiry form on the CRT website?

 

I always get annoyed that these notices ask us narrowboaters to take care.

I’ve done that although I suspected a direct message to the relevant waterway manager might be more effective.

[john6767]

35 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said:

There’s no closure.

 

If I were due to be transiting this section on those dates - as it happens I’ll be south of Braunston - I wouldn’t change my plans one bit for this.

 

That said the notice really ought to cover one single day as that’s the requirement for moving on that section.

 

So who is the contact to raise that issue with?

I actually thought that in the past I have seen the notices for a specific time of day as well.  As this is supposed to only be for exceptional movement in and out of the marinas that seems the correct way for it working.

[ditchcrawler]

40 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said:

There’s no closure.

 

If I were due to be transiting this section on those dates - as it happens I’ll be south of Braunston - I wouldn’t change my plans one bit for this.

 

That said the notice really ought to cover one single day as that’s the requirement for moving on that section.

 

So who is the contact to raise that issue with?

Maybe its going to Dunchurch one day, fill with diesel and come back the next day.

[Captain Pegg]

8 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

Maybe its going to Dunchurch one day, fill with diesel and come back the next day.

Unlikely as that would seem somewhat pointless and in any case isn’t it against the purpose of the rules that permit exceptional passage of widebeams? More pertinent is that the notice is clear about the nature of the movement and it only describes a one way journey.

 

It’s not for me or anyone else to second guess the nature of the movement. I have simply queried it with CRT on the basis of the apparent discrepancy between the wording of the notice and CRT’s own rules.

 

 

Edited February 17 by Captain Pegg