tree monkey Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 09:56, furnessvale said: Looking at the beam floating in the water, it is vandalism pure and simple. Looks like some yobs have stolen themselves a chain saw. With a bit of luck, one of them will not be used to using one and take his own leg off! I still prefer hidden nails. Much more chance of a snatch causing the effect outlined above! George Not that it matters a bit how the beam was cut off but the saw dust looks too fine for a chainsaw if it was a chainsaw it would have taken bloody ages with lots of noise, a supprising amount of smoke and the cut face would show burn marks and tbh there would have been a resonable chance the chain would have seized. I could obviously be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furnessvale Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, tree monkey said: Not that it matters a bit how the beam was cut off but the saw dust looks too fine for a chainsaw if it was a chainsaw it would have taken bloody ages with lots of noise, a supprising amount of smoke and the cut face would show burn marks and tbh there would have been a resonable chance the chain would have seized. I could obviously be wrong I doubt that! In which case, if they put as much energy into honest work they would be wealthy yobs! George 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) From Twitter. Edited July 28, 2017 by john6767 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Looks like they have been cut off again Update on 28/07/2017: Unfortunately the newly installed beam has been vandalised again overnight, having been cut through. It will be closed again until further notice, we will update as soon as we have any more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 They need steel rod through them..... Just out of interest how many fishermen do you get on that stretch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Rob-M said: Looks like they have been cut off again Update on 28/07/2017: Unfortunately the newly installed beam has been vandalised again overnight, having been cut through. It will be closed again until further notice, we will update as soon as we have any more information. That's sick! It must be sheer vandalism unless some one has a grudge againbts boats. But why just that lock? I think someone should put up discreet motion movement cameras (or whatever they are called) in the trees round the lock . haggis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 53 minutes ago, haggis said: That's sick! It must be sheer vandalism unless some one has a grudge againbts boats. But why just that lock? I think someone should put up discreet motion movement cameras (or whatever they are called) in the trees round the lock . haggis Total insanity. It is interesting why that specific lock, can't see any specific reason, it is close to the road, but so are other. Perhaps one of the factory's opposite could help with a camera. 54 minutes ago, frangar said: They need steel rod through them..... Just out of interest how many fishermen do you get on that stretch.... Most of the Walsall has the fishing rights let out to clubs I think, one of the questions on this years BCN Challenge was about that. So a reasonable amount of fishing on the canal as a whole, but of course very few boats. I would guess most boats using the Walsall don't user the locks either, so it is hard to see that this is about fishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 Hairy Feet Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 I'm quite shocked ! What a PITA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycloud Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, john6767 said: Total insanity. It is interesting why that specific lock, can't see any specific reason, it is close to the road, but so are other. Perhaps one of the factory's opposite could help with a camera. Most of the Walsall has the fishing rights let out to clubs I think, one of the questions on this years BCN Challenge was about that. So a reasonable amount of fishing on the canal as a whole, but of course very few boats. I would guess most boats using the Walsall don't user the locks either, so it is hard to see that this is about fishing. May be because it's the middle of the flight so wouldn't be spotted until boats were half way up/down? Causing maximum disruption presumably? Edited July 28, 2017 by Psycloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Psycloud said: May be because it's the middle of the flight so wouldn't be spotted until boats were half way up/down? Causing maximum disruption presumably? It's a thought. There are so few boats using Walsall locks though, so there is not likely to be much of a queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Again from Twitter, this is what they did to the new beam It also seems that two people have been apprehended for the damage and assault to CRT staff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted July 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) Confirmed by CRT, one CRT staff member assaulted and chased, suspects were subsequently arrested. Edited July 28, 2017 by AMModels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 28 minutes ago, john6767 said: Again from Twitter, this is what they did to the new beam It also seems that two people have been apprehended for the damage and assault to CRT staff. That doesn't look like a chainsaw cut to me. More like a very good, new hand saw. Someone with a lot of spare time & energy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree monkey Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Just now, billh said: That doesn't look like a chainsaw cut to me. More like a very good, new hand saw. Someone with a lot of spare time & energy? Your right its not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Anyway, why does the canal have to be closed? We used to manage to use locks OK with busted or non-existent balance beams, just added a bit of rope to the strapping post and pulled in the right direction. Load of namby-pambys these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, billh said: Anyway, why does the canal have to be closed? We used to manage to use locks OK with busted or non-existent balance beams, just added a bit of rope to the strapping post and pulled in the right direction. Load of namby-pambys these days I agree, remove the cut beam so nobody gets hurt and allow boats through at lock operators risk. Use a short shaft or rope to open\close gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 1 hour ago, tree monkey said: Your right its not Maybe it was a cordless alligator saw like this : http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcs310d2-gb-10-8v-2-0ah-li-ion-xr-reciprocating-saw/14319?kpid=14319&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx7GMxJus1QIVA7ftCh0SJQqtEAQYBCABEgJ1lfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CKfhz8mbrNUCFVeNGwoddkUKkA Quieter than a chain saw and not quite as vicious. Also agree that the gate could be used sans beam- there are several like that on the Stort IIRC. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, BEngo said: Maybe it was a cordless alligator saw like this : http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcs310d2-gb-10-8v-2-0ah-li-ion-xr-reciprocating-saw/14319?kpid=14319&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx7GMxJus1QIVA7ftCh0SJQqtEAQYBCABEgJ1lfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CKfhz8mbrNUCFVeNGwoddkUKkA Quieter than a chain saw and not quite as vicious. Also agree that the gate could be used sans beam- there are several like that on the Stort IIRC. N Blades too small? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie57 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 2 hours ago, billh said: Anyway, why does the canal have to be closed? We used to manage to use locks OK with busted or non-existent balance beams, just added a bit of rope to the strapping post and pulled in the right direction. Load of namby-pambys these days There were places where the gates were never fitted with beams, the River Stort being one example - not sure if they were all like this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV32 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 2 hours ago, AMModels said: Confirmed by CRT, one CRT staff member assaulted and chased, suspects were subsequently arrested. All we need now are the scrotes to be tied to the previous beams they destroyed and then slipped into the water .... what drives this mindless vandalism ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Hopefully CRT will try to recover the repair costs from those responsible, or if under 18, from their parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewIC Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Dave Payne said: Blades too small? Not if they've worked round it. The cut across the top isn't straight, which suggests something like that, and not a single cut with a long handsaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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