Stevie101 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Hi we are looking for a bigger boat and after much looking have spotted a scam out there so I thought I would share with you good people who don't know. After spotting a suitable boat we emailed the owner. She accepted our provisional offer and said her husband had died 2 months earlier which is why the boat was going. As she was up near Aberdeen she would like the deal done via ebay. She would send a 'private' listing to us and we should 'buy it now' then the boat would be covered by bays money back guarantee. We would pay for the boat, ebay would hold the money for 3 days while the boat was delivered and inspected and if we were happy the boat would be ours and the monies released. No.1 she didn't want us to come see the boat before paying (as if) No.2 ebay a money back guarantee don't include motor vehicles,boats or caravans. No.3 the ebay link was sent via email not through ebay No.4 I found the real advert that they had nicked the pictures and blurb from No.5 I found the scam mentioned on the FAQ page on ebay But just for all the trusting soul's out there that ain't as cynical as myself please be carefull If the price seems really cheap there is a reason....... Don't go on 'loot' we found 6 boats with daft prices that are obviously scams, so have reported all the ones that have replied back so far in the same way. Edited April 17, 2014 by Stevie101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 eBay don't offer to "hold" money in a transaction for 3 days either - where did the scammer want the money sent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hi- This woman is very persistent- On one of the narrowboat pages on Facebook, several people have been in "contact" with her. Last I heard- at least 2 people have notified this to the police- it might be worth you contacting them as well. I can't remember which page it was- will try to find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Williamson 1955 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 She used to be selling a 40 foot narrowboat complete with its trailer, and the boat was on the isle of Wight or in Cornwall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanM Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 This same scam is very common with cars advertised on Autotrader, etc. As has been said it is easier to spot with a boat because they quite often list the boat as being somewhere completely inaccessible by water or sell a narrowboat complete with trailer. They just cobble together text and pictures from different adverts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 I also have seen a lot of these adds on Gumtree but for motorhomes, but they keep coming on, and the same adds, i thought i was loosing the plot, i am not up on motorhome specs etc but i am ok on prices, these is a tleast 6 now on the first page of motorhomes which around the £6 mark which is for a 2002 era, should be more like £15000 + Complete inbred ingnorant tossers, that what i think of them to say the least. Just be carefull folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharl Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Yes when we where looking for a Campervan ran into a number of similar adverts on Autotrader, £5k (as a round figure) for a 5 year old converted VWT5 which would be more like £20k........ As W+T said if it looks to good to be true it is! Edited April 17, 2014 by Dharl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 I've had similar with a woman from Aberdeen selling JR puppies. You pay her and she gets them delivered by an animal carrier. I put it to her that she is a scam. She got a bit upset! Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 I had a similar experience with a National DM2 engine advertised on Gumtree London edition, but apparently located in Dundee. My offer to pay cash on collection was rejected, with a request I pay money into an HSBC account in Luton. A quick look at Google Streetview showed that the particular house number for the address in Dundee didn't exist. Googling the address produced a forum post from a Dutch audiophile who was very upset not to have heard any more after paying out a substantial sum for an upmarket valve amplifier. Be careful out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Lots of sales happen over tinternet every second of every day. A small proportion are criminal in one way or another. Personally, I wouldn't want to buy anything large or expensive without seeing it first. I found my present car on tinternet, an ex-demo model at a main dealer, but I still went to see it before doing anything else. Boats are in general a lot more expensive than cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 This sort of scam is rife, I have posted a couple of times about my boat I was selling on the Duck, someone lifted the whole ad, put in their own details "moved" the boat to Scotland and stuck it on Gumtree. So be carefull out there. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald Fox Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 These scammers should be hunted down and then tied on top of the very angry swan's nest near Lowsonford on the Stratford Canal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 These scammers should be hunted down and then tied on top of the very angry swan's nest near Lowsonford on the Stratford Canal!Cor you've really got it in for the swans.Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Muck Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 I've had similar with a woman from Aberdeen selling JR puppies. You pay her and she gets them delivered by an animal carrier. I put it to her that she is a scam. She got a bit upset! Martyn Sounds very much like the English Bulldog puppies adoption scam on Facebook, they cobble together a profile, alarm bells rang for me when the photos were obviously taken in the USA - the house, the front garden, the cars, no way are they in the UK. I bet these scams originate in Africa, wherever thry claim to be from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterboat Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 We were involved in the car scam on ebay they even cloned the site! we however had an ace my better half works in a bank and the money could not be moved untill we had the car!! we ruined the scam as the bank locked all the funds down and returned them the scammer then sent a mail with attached virus luckily the puter survived! Also in our case the car wasnt to cheap to smell a rat Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) This looks like another scam http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Narrow-Boat-57-Ft-Cruiser-/271475474669?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f353300ed No mention of hull maker or any details apart from 2006 cruiser. Look at the questions- No answers apart from ring me. I asked if it was his to sell and he removed the question and didn't answer it. No ebay history either If it is a scam- does anyone know the genuine owner of Waylander Edited May 6, 2014 by Woodstock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Williamson 1955 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I see the seller "Will post to United Kingdom" and that 15 bids have already been received.I'd like to see Parcelforce cope with it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I've asked him if I can inspect it. Not expecting a different answer than already given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I see the seller "Will post to United Kingdom" and that 15 bids have already been received. I'd like to see Parcelforce cope with it.... He's not doing so well with his windsurfer sail though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinhare Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 If it is a scam- does anyone know the genuine owner of Waylander Sorry no but this is the boat referred to in the advert. You can just make out the reg number in one of the photos. Waylander Built by Sts Boats - Length 17.374 metres ( 57 feet ) - Beam 2.083 metres ( 6 feet 10 inches ) - Draft 0.559 ( 1 feet 10 inches ). Metal hull, power of 35 BHP. Registered with Canal & River Trust number 514040 as a Powered. Last registration recorded on Wednesday 22nd May 2013. Cheers, Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 In first picture, is that a 'sales board' on the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 The seller has now added some info:- "Engine barrus shire 1,890 hours ,fuel tank 40 gallons, was blacked last May 2013, straight form , wood flooring, fridge freezer, washing machine ,gas cooker , thetford , c200 cassette, toilet, shower, 3kilowats inverter,5 batteries ,heating system , fire place, 12 volts + 230 volts electrical system, water tank approximately 400L,with 32 inch television , central heating, hot water heating from the engine via twin toilcalorifier." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 I just got the standard reply with his phone number! Still looks like a scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 I just got the standard reply with his phone number! Still looks like a scam. I think so too. I've reported the listing to Ebay as possibly fraudulent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanM Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 The seller has now added some info:- "Engine barrus shire 1,890 hours ,fuel tank 40 gallons, was blacked last May 2013, straight form , wood flooring, fridge freezer, washing machine ,gas cooker , thetford , c200 cassette, toilet, shower, 3kilowats inverter,5 batteries ,heating system , fire place, 12 volts + 230 volts electrical system, water tank approximately 400L,with 32 inch television , central heating, hot water heating from the engine via twin toilcalorifier." Probably lifted straight from someone else's advert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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