sueb Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 http://wylam.boatersrights.org/ Waterways ‘Charity’ Evicts Vulnerable Pensioners : 28 days notice, for simply complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I'd like to understand the other side of the argument before I believe another 38Degrees rant Petition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I'd like to understand the other side of the argument before I believe another 38Degrees rant Petition Ain't it always the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 East London is currently a major growth area in terms of property prices and rent. This is bound to inform a business' decision when it comes to rent for residential moorings. It is a dwelling place which is subject to increases dueto market forces. Surely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Sleep tight folks, I'm waiting to hear a bit more too but I'm most unhappy that somebody is to be evicted for complaining about the cost of moorings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 They (CRT) really aren't doing very well in the PR stakes at the moment are they?/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 They (CRT) really aren't doing very well in the PR stakes at the moment are they?/ Like all these things, I would like to see both sides of the story. Very few of the "CRT are bastards" accusations seem to be wholly one-sided, once you start digging, and, although I know nothing of this one, it is often the case when you hear the alternate view that things are nothing like as sensational as they have been made to sound. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 NBW will be giving us the truth in the morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_V Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Like all these things, I would like to see both sides of the story. Very few of the "CRT are bastards" accusations seem to be wholly one-sided, once you start digging, and, although I know nothing of this one, it is often the case when you hear the alternate view that things are nothing like as sensational as they have been made to sound. Nothing to stop them responding on here is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sueb Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Nothing to stop anyone asking BWML for the other side of the story. Maybe it is ok to evict elderly sick people who have made their home there for 14 years. Edited February 18, 2014 by sueb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Nothing to stop anyone asking BWML for the other side of the story You are funny sometimes Sue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV32 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I simply do not believe the basis of the article - there must be some underlying information that we are not being given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggie Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I thought the same but after reading the eviction letter BWML sent him http://wylam.boatersrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/0984_001termination-letter.pdf I did wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfast Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Wolf! Wolf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampyrichard Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I thought the same but after reading the eviction letter BWML sent him http://wylam.boatersrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/0984_001termination-letter.pdf I did wonder. The termination letter does seem quite measured in comparison to the site linking to it:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) I thought the same but after reading the eviction letter BWML sent him http://wylam.boatersrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/0984_001termination-letter.pdf I did wonder.It reads fine to me. They were given due consideration, and had whatever problem they had investigated and looked at by the ombudsman. I don't understand the problem. Actually I will venture a bit more and use the word 'vexatious' some on here don't like the word but it aptly describes people who embark on a campaign of repeated and pointless complaints,just for the purpose of making a nuisance of themselves, I read the letter as being sent to such a person. Edited February 18, 2014 by The Dog House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Pure speculation in this case, but, could this be the background ? A lot of BWML moorers have been paying for grade 1 moorings (high usage) but have been using them for 'full residential'. A letter was sent out from BWML some time ago (last summer ?) regarding that any users of Grade 1 moorings that were found to be using them as residential must move up a grade to residential and, pay the correct tarrif for a residential mooring (considerably higher than a Grade 1 mooring). Could this explain the 'vast increase' in mooring fees ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Either that or the fact that the last 4 residentisl moorings to be auctioned by CRT in E14 went for £13k, £12k,£12k and £10k. This refers to 22mx4m residential online moorings. Does an auction indicate market value?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 it aptly describes people who embark on a campaign of repeated and pointless complaints,just for the purpose of making a nuisance of themselves, Richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Of course they have Millwall and Blackwsll docks a bit further out but I think they went over £10k but you can get a much bigger boat on them. Judging by the engine room pic I think its quite a big barge which is being moved out Which means... £10k for a 22x4 wide bean translated to about £15k for a 30x5 luxemotor or whatever so the current £9450 fee in poplar dock is relatively good value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Nothing to stop anyone asking BWML for the other side of the story.If, as it seems to say, whatever Mr Taylor's grievances are have been put to the Waterways Ombudsman and they have found against him, and the process then repeated in a County Court, and they have also found against him, it seems a bit odd to suggest that the issue is solely being caused by CRT. For some balance, can anyone find anything on what the Ombudsman or the County Court said. Presumably the problem is that Mr Taylor, having lost in both those places, is not prepared to accept the outcomes he got, or certainly that seems to be the implication from the limited information available. Is that a fair statement of the position that CRT are now reacting to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 If you can get a 30x5 barge on one of there moorings. Limehouse is 18x4 iirc not sure and they are C£9500 too Sorry for the disjointed posts but £9500pa to moor a large (30x5) barge in E14 is good value Actually I think poplar is 20m limit so its blackwall basin with the big peniches and they are CRT auctions not BWML sorry for all the waffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Richard Forgive me smart arse but I missed the bit where all avenues opposing hs2 have been exhausted. Besides this is not comparting like with like.. Edited February 18, 2014 by The Dog House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterboat Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Their is always 2 sides to the story so lets wait ans see shall we Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Yes if CRT's eviction letter is to be believed, the guy is a serial complainer about nothing, and aggressive with it. No wonder BWML want rid of him and probably, if it had been a privately owned marina, he would have been long gone by now. Definitely vexatious. But of course, that is just their side of the story, but it's a side I am inclined to align with in the absence of hard evidence to the contrary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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